Will purchase new Smartphone

David777

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SF needs a general smartphone purchasing thread discussing newer models. Given the recent rise of AI, there is now much new smartphone technology rising every month. As recent threads have noted, technology is advancing so quickly, almost all of us, technically savvy or not, are being left behind understanding enough even to cope, overwhelmed by the amount of new gear and features.

Have decided to replace my dated 2018 Motorola g6 smartphone, a modest low end model. As one of many seniors that is not smartphone or post smartphone social media oriented, I don't use most of the popular "apps" so many others do nor use my phone that much daily. As a long time computer user from the earliest era, have always been more desktop oriented doing real computer work using larger monitors and real keyboard/mouse.

But today, smartphones have matured in numbers of ways that will make the jump to this newer generation. Of particular interest is the highest level camera technology using multiple lenses. Originally, smartphone cameras were just fixed aperture, wide angle. Although my primary camera this last decade plus has been the Sony APS-c e-mount a6000/a6700 system, I've always used small compact digital cameras for more convenient, informational subjects and when resort skiing. Have gone through 5 such models and have been using a dated Canon ELPH 190 with a 10x zoom.

The new high end smartphones are using multiple sensors with varying apertures, and zoom ranges including medium telephoto. After going through considerable web information have found the one I am likely to purchase, the SAMSUNG Galaxy S25 Cell Phone, 128GB Smartphone, that has a current Amazon price of $720 in the Mint color. This is the smallest of 4 Galaxy models with just a 6.2 inch diagonal screen size, 5.78x2.78x0.28 inches with 2340x1080 pixels, and 162 grams or 5.7 ounces.

My moto g6 is just 1440x720 pixels so much more detail. My ELPH 190 weighs 4.87 ounces or hardly less than the S25 that takes much better photos with only slightly less zoom range. A brother has the older Samsung Galaxy S24 FE that I have carefully looked at its images I am now convinced is the better tool. Although images have higher quality, such is vastly less than the fidelity of what I can post process from blended shots with my a6700. Additionally while skiing, others won't be bothering me about not being able to phone me on slopes. Because of superior exposure control, should be able to capture much better bright contrasty snow landscapes easier and with more fidelity.

https://www.amazon.com/Smartphone-Unlocked-Processor-ProScaler-Manufacturer/dp/B0DP3FP5P3/ref=sr_1_3

I don't play video games, nor do real work with my phone, so the small device size is fine with being able to fit in my pocket with less weight, more important. Significantly, the actual camera functions are the same for all 4 Galaxy models, so will not be losing anything there. I'll wait till later this fall for a sale, maybe about the Black Friday time period. Some of these models given the fast pace of AI integration, may also have software version updates by then.

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I bought a new smartphone for work. NUU A23 Plus for $79.

Good battery capacity, Android 13. Was a little laggy, but I removed all the Google apps and replaced them with lightweight third party apps. I did not degoogle it, still has Google Play services and Play store. Runs perfectly, works well with my work apps. Speakers and screen are nice, cameras a little weak. Use for work only, carry my flip phone otherwise.

But I always carry a compact camera with me. One very small Kodak, or a compact Panasonic which will take better photos than any high end Apple, Samsung or Pixel;)
 
I have always stuck with the Google branded phones because they come the closest to the pure Android experience then the other phones that come out with the Android OS. The other manufacturers add their own bloatware to put on top of the Android OS. Plus the Google Pixel phones get their updates faster and usually have longer support then the other Android phones. I am currently running the beta Android 16.4 version .

My current phone is the Pixel 8 Pro. It came out in October of 2023 and it is getting most the new AI features that the new Pixel 10 has. It will be supported through 2030 but I probably will be buying another Pixel phone in the fall of 2026 or 2027. It does have a nice camera but not as nice as the camera on the Samsung Galaxy S25. For the most part, Samsung phones have always had a better camera than the Pixel phones.
 

I've had this one for a few years and it's beginning to lag, so it might be my last. I might wean myself off like a few friends did.

When their phones died they just didn't replace them and they are very happy now. Even if I do get another one it will be $100 or less.
 
SF needs a general smartphone purchasing thread discussing newer models. Given the recent rise of AI, there is now much new smartphone technology rising every month. As recent threads have noted, technology is advancing so quickly, almost all of us, technically savvy or not, are being left behind understanding enough even to cope, overwhelmed by the amount of new gear and features.

Have decided to replace my dated 2018 Motorola g6 smartphone, a modest low end model. As one of many seniors that is not smartphone or post smartphone social media oriented, I don't use most of the popular "apps" so many others do nor use my phone that much daily. As a long time computer user from the earliest era, have always been more desktop oriented doing real computer work using larger monitors and real keyboard/mouse.

But today, smartphones have matured in numbers of ways that will make the jump to this newer generation. Of particular interest is the highest level camera technology using multiple lenses. Originally, smartphone cameras were just fixed aperture, wide angle. Although my primary camera this last decade plus has been the Sony APS-c e-mount a6000/a6700 system, I've always used small compact digital cameras for more convenient, informational subjects and when resort skiing. Have gone through 5 such models and have been using a dated Canon ELPH 190 with a 10x zoom.

The new high end smartphones are using multiple sensors with varying apertures, and zoom ranges including medium telephoto. After going through considerable web information have found the one I am likely to purchase, the SAMSUNG Galaxy S25 Cell Phone, 128GB Smartphone, that has a current Amazon price of $720 in the Mint color. This is the smallest of 4 Galaxy models with just a 6.2 inch diagonal screen size, 5.78x2.78x0.28 inches with 2340x1080 pixels, and 162 grams or 5.7 ounces.

My moto g6 is just 1440x720 pixels so much more detail. My ELPH 190 weighs 4.87 ounces or hardly less than the S25 that takes much better photos with only slightly less zoom range. A brother has the older Samsung Galaxy S24 FE that I have carefully looked at its images I am now convinced is the better tool. Although images have higher quality, such is vastly less than the fidelity of what I can post process from blended shots with my a6700. Additionally while skiing, others won't be bothering me about not being able to phone me on slopes. Because of superior exposure control, should be able to capture much better bright contrasty snow landscapes easier and with more fidelity.

https://www.amazon.com/Smartphone-Unlocked-Processor-ProScaler-Manufacturer/dp/B0DP3FP5P3/ref=sr_1_3

I don't play video games, nor do real work with my phone, so the small device size is fine with being able to fit in my pocket with less weight, more important. Significantly, the actual camera functions are the same for all 4 Galaxy models, so will not be losing anything there. I'll wait till later this fall for a sale, maybe about the Black Friday time period. Some of these models given the fast pace of AI integration, may also have software version updates by then.

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I've had MotoG for years now and still haven't gotten around to playing with the cameras. Took two pics only. It's just not on my radar.
 
I have always stuck with the Google branded phones because they come the closest to the pure Android experience then the other phones that come out with the Android OS. The other manufacturers add their own bloatware to put on top of the Android OS. Plus the Google Pixel phones get their updates faster and usually have longer support then the other Android phones. I am currently running the beta Android 16.4 version .

My current phone is the Pixel 8 Pro. It came out in October of 2023 and it is getting most the new AI features that the new Pixel 10 has. It will be supported through 2030 but I probably will be buying another Pixel phone in the fall of 2026 or 2027. It does have a nice camera but not as nice as the camera on the Samsung Galaxy S25. For the most part, Samsung phones have always had a better camera than the Pixel phones.
+1 on both accounts. About Samsungs: years ago I read several articles like this one that mention Samsung devices having a backdoor, a total put off for me. Whether or not that's true, or still true, I haven't been able to determine, AI search is not being helpful. Here's what Samsung says: How Samsung Protects Your Smartphones from Cyberattacks | Samsung Singapore
 
A reason I may not go with the Samsung Galaxy is because of reported lack of color fidelity that I need to look at comparison examples of. The S25 color mode defaults to VIVID mode that I suspect is where that is coming from. Historically, compact digital cameras more often had ridiculously gaudy oversaturated fake hue outputs, especially for sunrise/sunset light. The S25 also has a NEUTRAL mode and that is what I would like to see actual optical testing on. All my a6000/a6700 post processing work tends to be reasonable color fidelity accurate thus not adjusted for what looks more aesthetic to the many that prefer gaudy.

Three sites comparing newer cameras:

The best camera phone 2025: the top phones for photography, tested and ranked
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-cameraphone

The best camera phone in 2025: what's the best smartphone for photography?
The best camera phone in 2025: what's the best smartphone for photography?

Spec Showdown: How Does Pixel 9A Compare to Pixel 9, 9 Pro and 9 Pro XL?
Google Pixel 9A vs. Pixel 9: Comparing the Differences
 
A reason I may not go with the Samsung Galaxy is because of reported lack of color fidelity that I need to look at comparison examples of. The S25 color mode defaults to VIVID mode that I suspect is where that is coming from. Historically, compact digital cameras more often had ridiculously gaudy oversaturated fake hue outputs, especially for sunrise/sunset light. The S25 also has a NEUTRAL mode and that is what I would like to see actual optical testing on. All my a6000/a6700 post processing work tends to be reasonable color fidelity accurate thus not adjusted for what looks more aesthetic to the many that prefer gaudy.

Three sites comparing newer cameras:

The best camera phone 2025: the top phones for photography, tested and ranked
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-cameraphone

The best camera phone in 2025: what's the best smartphone for photography?
The best camera phone in 2025: whaIt's the best smartphone for photography?

Spec Showdown: How Does Pixel 9A Compare to Pixel 9, 9 Pro and 9 Pro XL?
Google Pixel 9A vs. Pixel 9: Comparing the Differences
I use apple phones to take my snapshots, wouldn't dare to use the word photograph in your company ;) and upgrade every 2nd generation or a significant upgrade. It's time so I'm considering the 17 pro.

tech radar 17 pro camera discussion

Any comments on the 17 pro's camera?
 
Apple just had their fall event which gives all of the details on the new iPhone 17, and their cameras, and it has some awesome examples of photography and videos taken with those cameras. If you do not want to watch the whole apple event, there should be shorter videos on YouTube that exposing the benefits of the new cameras on this phone.
Mine is the iPhone 16, and it works great for the pictures that i take, which are just things i want pictures of and not anything that needs to look professional.

 
Like @David777 ... I've never been big into smart phones. For the most part, the simpler the better for me. If I need a computer, I use a computer. If I need a phone, I use a phone. Oh, there are a couple of apps I use occasionally on the smart phone but they are mostly just backups to what my computer covers and only on the phone for that purpose. I'm happy with my little point and shoot Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 for pictures. So at the end of the day, I don't need the latest and greatest smart phone.

I'm in no way tethered to a cell phone and most times leave it at home when I go out. I have a 2021 Moto G Pure smart phone and recently thought of upgrading it. I like Motorola and I like android. It's what I'm used to I guess and the price points on Moto's are generally much lower than others. Some will say you get what you pay for though.

Anyway, after looking at the newest Motorola phones, I've decided to keep the G Pure for the time being. It still does everything I need it to and isn't worn out or even worn hard.

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Galaxy A16 5G is my newest phone. I always buy a glass protector and rubber protector. I am careful with it, but occasionally have dropped it.
 
A couple of years ago, I needed a new phone immediately. I was going to spring for Samsung's higher model, as was recommended by someone here. I think it was a 21. But the local stores only had 11s & 14s, so I got the A14. I'm happy with it, but wish it had a better camera, one of the features the SF member had mentioned was very good on the model he bought. However, since my last update, I swear the camera's colors are better (my main issue with it). It is a 5g and takes seconds to download new apps, much quicker than the 4g phone.

Hopefully you can get a great deal when you decide to purchase because the skinny is device and electronics prices will rise significantly due to tariffs. I'll be interested to know which one you choose and how you like it.
 


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