Anyone here disagree with the consensus opinion concerning Climate Change?

Harry Le Hermit said:
It should be obvious that the planet is warming and affecting climate. What is ridiculous, imo, is the notion that we are actively working on solutions.

IF we were to somehow suddenly stop all emissions (impossible), the gases would take decades, if not centuries to slow and stop the rising temperatures. Meaning the melting of glaciers would continue... with flooding of low lying areas, etc. Where is the preparation and planning for this?? Thinking of Florida and New York City, etc.

How do we know how long carbon dioxide remains in the atmosphere?
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In the US it was voted out.. that's where the preparation and planning went...doesn't take long to look up the congressional record to see who voted for and against....it will take decades to repair the damage that has been done....if ever.
 

I believe it’s real and I believe that by the time we take it seriously it will be too late.

Certainly too late for me and my generation to worry about now.

Most things I read, seem to see it as the other guys problem by blaming developing nations for the most obvious forms of pollution.

I believe that the wealthiest nations have an obligation to legislate and spend their way out of it as quickly as possible with clean fuel options for transportation, manufacturing, etc…

I don’t think it’s fair to ask the havenots to stop spewing smoke and cutting rain forests while we continue to live such wasteful lifestyles.

IMO it’s up to the wealthier first world nations to subsidize the developing nations so natural defenses can be maintained as giant filters that help to purify the planet.
 
Humans are releasing about 50 billion metric tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere every year. Much of that gets trapped there. Those gasses absorb radiant heat and warm the oceans and land.

Venus used to be more like earth in the distant past, even with oceans. However, it receives more radiant energy, being closer to the sun. The oceans act like a heat sink and can absorb a substantial amount. Eventually Venus lost it's oceans, and there was nothing to prevent a runaway situation, and now it's even hotter than Mercury.

I don't think earth will suffer that fate in the near future, but we will be living in a greenhouse (Hothouse) environment and climate change and increased weather phenomena will be an ever-present factor to deal with.
 

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It's possible that one thing scientists got wrong early on was how fast this change was going to take place. I never expected that I would live to see the beginning of it. Maybe, I was just making unwarranted assumptions about what I was reading.
 
I don’t believe that climate change will mean the end of the world.

I do believe that nature will deal harshly with the causes of climate change and that the world will eventually heal itself with or without human life.

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We don't know, we're not as smart as we think we are, but what difference does it make?
We can't poison the oceans with impunity.
We can't cover the earth in concrete without consequences.
Or surround the earth with end-to-end space junk.
These and other unfortunate choices are being taken out of our hands by means of lower birth rates and the poisoning of our bodies with man-made toxins.
We're doomed and I'm sure, objectively thinking, that it's about time.
 
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Oldeagle66 said:
Yes, as consumers we do.
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Sounds good but as consumers what exactly would we stop consuming that would make a difference?

The estimated global population in 2025 is approximately 8.23 billion. More specifically, as of August 14, 2025, the population is projected to be 8,239,376,860, while another estimate suggests it will be around 8,231,613,070 as of July 1, 2025.

That quantity of people dictate consumer use of what use of what businesses/corporations produce. Then there is the fact that governments world wide want their citizens enjoy a better life style, using what resources available.

Once solely dependent on themselves the impact of convenience has reached.
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IMO there is a good possibility that far in the future there will be pockets of mankind surviving on what is still available. OR space exploration will discover a planet that is habitable. How or who will be transported if one is found isn't something I'll be around to witness.
 
VaughanJB said:
Climate change is real. I'm not sure how anyone can deny it. The oceans are getting warmer, the balance of nature has changed and storms are getting worse. Lohachara Island in India was washed away from rising sea levels due to global warming, as have five of the Soloman Islands. I could go on......

In fact, just in my personal experience, the weather in the UK is warmer than it used to be - Summer's feel as though they're going to kill you, and winters are very tepid.

There is some debate over the CAUSE of global warming. Is it man made, or just the cycle of the Earth. My take is fairly simple: It doesn't matter which. But to imagine man's actions have no effect on the Earth is unlikely. But whatever the cause, we have to find ways to deal with rising temps.
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How about quoting to us some credible sources. Everyone always talks about like it is fact, but never give the source(s) they rely on...
 
Humans are changing the climate with carbon dioxide emissions, no doubt.

But to what extent and what the consequences are, we are just guessing.

Nature has changed carbon dioxide levels way higher in the past.

Seems to me just as much worry and effort should be put into the problem of contaminated drinking water.

Even more importantly, oxygen levels in urban areas can often be lower than the safety guidelines. We are polluting the ocean and cutting down forests at an alarming rate, wonder what the consequences of that can be?

We might be able deal with higher carbon dioxide levels and a warmer climate, but lower oxygen levels in the atmosphere will be a far bigger issue.
 
bobcat said:
Humans are releasing about 50 metric tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere every year. Much of that gets trapped there. Those gasses absorb radiant heat and warm the oceans and land.
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And then... Based on scientific assessments, the annual release of gasses from underwater volcanoes is approximately 100 million metric tons per year. Land-based volcanoes emit ~200–300 million metric tons. If only we could plug off those pesky underwater volcano's.
 
squatting dog said:
And then... Based on scientific assessments, the annual release of gasses from underwater volcanoes is approximately 100 million metric tons per year. Land-based volcanoes emit ~200–300 million metric tons. If only we could plug off those pesky underwater volcano's.
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Oh sorry. That was a typo omission on my part. It should have read 50 billion metric tons of greenhouse gasses every year released by humans into the atmosphere. So while volcanoes do add to it, it's minimal compared to the human contribution.

I can see why that was confusing, and again, my fault. I will edit my earlier post.
 

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