Prince Andrew to give up all honours and titles

hollydolly said:
well you're talking about a man who ''entertained'' , Clinton, Trump.. Royalty and many more ... you think a prime minister from Israel is a trivial country ?
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My comments was not a response to your reference to Israel prime minister.
I was replying to
"there are at least 100 countries with prime ministers"
 

OldOld said:
My comments was not a response to your reference to Israel prime minister.
I was replying to
"there are at least 100 countries with prime ministers"
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I know what you were replying to..I'm just asking what makes you think Israel is a trivial county

You've got to remember Epstein was making money from a Prostitution ring for those who could afford it.. those in higher circles so to speak.. .. the difference was and we mustn't forget.. that this particular Prostitution ring was for under age females to provide these services.. and when we think of all those pirme ministers, Royal family members.. leaders of countries... we mustn't forget, that they could have paid to go to what is commonly referred to as ''high class prostitution rings''... they would have been legal , but they chose to have young girls barely out of puberty..... that's the horrible thing,

When you look at those people now... at least for me...I can't see past the fact that whether married and with families.. these disgusting people actually lust after young girls... and some of them pay to seriously abuse them
 
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hollydolly said:
I know what you were replying to..I'm just asking what makes you think Israel is a trivial county
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Not sure what you are getting into?
Did I ever say Israel is a trivial country? Did I even mention the word Israel in my post?
I am afraid you are barking at the wrong tree.
 
Lavinia said:
True. It's the monarchy itself which is important. The individual members of the Royal family are human after all and Princess Anne and Prince William do seem to resent the obligations they have. Prince Harry really should have given up all his titles when he chose to give up the royal life.
On the question of Prince Andrew, he had a reputation as a playboy and was part of the 'jet set'. Those girls were recruited to entertain him and the rest of his ilk. I'm sure they were thrilled to be part of the entertainment and no doubt were paid handsomely for their services. I don't condone the actions of the men but I have no sympathy whatever for the girls.
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Andrew is clearly a reprehensible human being. I think we all know that now. Anything he says right now is only to avoid taking accountability for his past actions. I don't doubt that's true. Will he ever face the consequences? I don't know. The sharks are out, for sure.

We live in strange times though. Andrew being a horrible person doesn't taint all of the royals. Our next King, once Charles is gone, will I believe, change the public's relationship with the royals a lot. Prince Harry has made some huge mistakes, but that's his business.

Same with many things. For example, people who say the BBC should be closed down because of terrible things people paid by the company have done. It's a madness. Bad people need to be rooted out, but that doesn't take away all the good the BBC has done (and if you know the history, they have done a LOT of good things).

I think of it terms of family. My brother isn't a great guy, but if he does something bad, that shouldn't cast a shadow on ME. That's on him.

Regardless, the Royals are part of our heritage. To many around the world they ARE the United Kingdom.
 
Prince Andrew seemed to be spoilt and protected by his mother - but don't some mothers do this the whole world over? He does not have that benefit anymore - King Charles and the rest can see the untold damage he has done and could continue to do and will not permit it - as simple as that!
 
OldOld said:
You are contributing to the royal family scandal frenzy by buying their books.
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Well, I really don't mind, I am much more curious than anything else.
If I don't like it, I will delete it.
Now my other book that is coming this week, Entitled The Rise and Fall of the House of York by Andrew Lownie might fall into that category, but I still don't care.
 
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Tish said:
Okay, just got her book, can't wait to read it.
I'm not 100% sure of how much of it will be lies and how much the truth.
I should be able to get through it this weekend.
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this is true... unfortuntely Virginia was discovered to be a stranger to the truth in some cases the trouble which were lies and which were not...

I'm not buying the book.. can't read books like that.. having been seriously abused as a child, I can't read anyone's else's accounts... it bring everything of my past back to the fore...t's siddicutl enough reading it in soundbites in the media

Let us know what you think of the book
 
I don't know if he is guilty of all the accusations but it seems a fire usually is near smoke. Not being a British subject I have know I am biased in my opinion of the royal family. To me the controversaries point to a bunch of spoiled babies whining. I have been impressed by the grace shown by Kate Middleton as she has faced the drama of dealing with cancer. In that case I see a very human reaction dealt with in a manner very worthy of respect.
 

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