Risk of death is less with strict gun laws

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[h=1]Study shows fewer deaths in states with strict gun laws[/h] [h=2]Risk of death is less with strict gun laws, researcher says[/h]http://www.wcvb.com/news/study-shows-fewer-deaths-in-states-with-strict-gun-laws/36027736

Authors conceded their scoring system "has not been validated." But the lead author, Eric Fleegler of Boston Children's Hospital, said he believed the evidence was clear that the risk of dying from suicide and homicide is generally reduced in states with the most gun restrictions.
"In states where there has been more legislation related to firearms purchasing and the way guns are stored and carried, there are lower rates of fatalities," he said. "This is important."

People like power.So like to believe, Having that gun power make things safer.
It is very clear that the more guns out there the more good people die from guns.
 

Of course that's the whole answer in a nutshell. But the gun nuts defend their right to stay armed insisting that their guns aren't directly responsible for the daily violence. Of course not...it's everybody else's weapons. Also the twisted view that the only way to control gun violence is by having more people with guns to shoot the bad people with the guns...really how do you fight that logic? What they disregard is our rights. The right not to get seriously wounded or killed because we happen to be in the way.
 
I believe this has been said before, but I'll say it again. If you could get all the guns from the bad guys, we others wouldn't need ours. But how do you propose to get the bad guys to turn theirs in? Offer them a lollipop? Offer them money? They would just take that and go buy a bigger gun from the black market.

I don't see any feasible way to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys.
 

Perhaps making firearms a "controlled substance" would work? After all, look at how the "War on Drugs" has proven so successful that no one can find drugs anymore.....imp
 
The US has been making headway for the last several years. Our rate of incidence has been going down each year.

That is pretty good.
 
I think responders have completely ignored the number of suicides that wouldn't happen if a gun were not readily available.

Because such studies also consider suicides in calculating firearm deaths, critics say it is misleading to cite them when arguing for ways to prevent mass shootings. Suicides account for the majority of America's roughly 30,000 annual gun deaths.
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People who plan to or want to commit suicide do not need guns. Some states have recently passed laws so that you just go to the doctor to get a prescription for a drug to kill yourself.

Life is not worth much these days, not from the womb to the grave. It has very little to do with the availability of guns.
 
So why are there over 15,000 suicides where people blow their brains out?
If you have to go and ask for the means perhaps this give you time to reconsider.
Putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger is too immediate.
 
Warri, I feel you miss the very important point here: any individual's body and life are his or hers alone. What that individual does to that body is not to be governed from without, if the individual is "free". Freedom is the question here.

Do you oppose suicide, on principle? imp
 
imp said:
Perhaps making firearms a "controlled substance" would work? After all, look at how the "War on Drugs" has proven so successful that no one can find drugs anymore.....imp
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Yes you could say people are.like addicted to guns. I did not say I had the answer to gun addiction.

Better laws would help. The demand is strong. Making a solution difficult.
 
It's useless to argue the point, it won't be solved in our lifetime anyways. One of the few positive steps is making gun shops accountable for weapons they've sold. If you sell an arsenal to someone. The victims of that crime should have the right to sue. A baby step though...
 
Shirley said:
I believe this has been said before, but I'll say it again. If you could get all the guns from the bad guys, we others wouldn't need ours. But how do you propose to get the bad guys to turn theirs in? Offer them a lollipop? Offer them money? They would just take that and go buy a bigger gun from the black market.

I don't see any feasible way to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys.
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You're right Shirley, but I would own a gun(s) whether I needed to or not. The criminals and gangs on the streets are responsible for most of the gun crime in the United States. The first priority of the government should be cracking down on the street crime, and getting the illegally acquired guns away from the criminals. They need to leave the responsible gun owner in America alone, and focus on the real problems we're dealing with.

IKE said:
I'm a gun owner, have been for over 50 years and will be till I die........it's probably best that I stay out of this conversation.
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We have owned guns for a long time too Ike. As I've said many times, I have a loaded pistol at the ready if needed, but I'm in my 60s and have never had to use it for anything but occasional target practice. Neither of us are hunters, but we do own rifles also, and take them when we're camping in the back woods for protection from animals or target practice. We've never had to shoot an animal yet, in all these years. Don't stay out of this conversation, we're all entitled to our opinions and we don't all have to agree with each other.
 
~Lenore said:
People who plan to or want to commit suicide do not need guns. Some states have recently passed laws so that you just go to the doctor to get a prescription for a drug to kill yourself.

Life is not worth much these days, not from the womb to the grave. It has very little to do with the availability of guns.
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I agree completely Lenore. I also respect anyone's right to take their own life if they choose to. I was always in favor of assisted suicide too, for those who don't want to leave a mess for their survivors to deal with once they're gone.
 
"we're all entitled to our opinions and we don't all have to agree with each other."

If we weren't (entitled) and we did (agree), there would be little basis for discussion. We could, I suppose, discuss the variation in wall-colors from one of our homes to another's, I suppose, or some other such inane way of using PC capability in it's most-minimal way.......imp
 
Warrigal said:
I think responders have completely ignored the number of suicides that wouldn't happen if a gun were not readily available.
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I think that those who wish to die will use any available means to achieve that end. A car into a tree, over the cliff, into a train. Maybe jump from a building, or step into a car or train. Cut their wrists, swim in wild waters, go over a dam. Plenty of options and many just never get seen as a suicide.
 
I too have a gun close at night. The last time I owned a gun was almost 40 years ago. Now, I have always owned rifles, but they were old, and came rhrough the family. But a hand gun is different, it isn't made for hunting animals.

For safety sake, I passed all of the rifles on down to our grandsons when Michael died last year, and I bought a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver with lazer sighting. A red lazer light pointing at you is better than be told, "I have a gun,so go away." I go to the gun range ae least every three months, so that I have less of a chance fumbling if I ever need to act.

I wish I didn't need a gun, but for a woman alone, it would be very foolish not to have protection.
 
You're a smart lady Ina, better to have it and not need to use it, than need to use it and not have it. Hopefully you'll be like me and only use it for target practice.
 
Ina said:
I too have a gun close at night. The last time I owned a gun was almost 40 years ago. Now, I have always owned rifles, but they were old, and came rhrough the family. But a hand gun is different, it isn't made for hunting animals.

For safety sake, I passed all of the rifles on down to our grandsons when Michael died last year, and I bought a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver with lazer sighting. A red lazer light pointing at you is better than be told, "I have a gun,so go away." I go to the gun range ae least every three months, so that I have less of a chance fumbling if I ever need to act.

I wish I didn't need a gun, but for a woman alone, it would be very foolish not to have protection.
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Couldn't agree more! I think I'll look into that laser sighting. Mine does not have that.
 
I have a big scary dog close at night. Gentle as a lamb, he will get up on his own and patrol the house at night. Then he comes bedside and whines like a baby until he's boosted back on the bed. Bullies have most of their bulk in front, their back legs look they belong to another dog. The only thing dangerous about the bully breeds...the one reason why so very many people fear them...
...their intestinal fortitude can clear a room.
 
Butterfly said:
Couldn't agree more! I think I'll look into that laser sighting. Mine does not have that.
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Ladies, consider this: In the dark, at night, alone, possibly having been awakened by a noise, a shadowy figure across the room, you retrieve your handgun, the laser sight illuminates upon the area the muzzle is pointing at, BUT, the intruder then immediately SEES where you are, knows what you have, and if armed, will immediately shoot at your laser sight.

Not good. I am no expert at modern weaponry, or sighting systems, but I know I sure as hell do not want a potential adversary to be able to home in on me. imp
 

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