SNAP benefits to end due to US govt shutdown

I can't post the article I read from the Guardian earlier cuz it's political but this one gal is down to cans of tuna and some summer squash.

She said folks where she lives have been hunting small game just to keep everyone fed. It's just sad.
 

Fritz said:
She said folks where she lives have been hunting small game just to keep everyone fed. It's just sad.
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I absolutely know that people are hungry... and it's horrible, But are you sure this story isn't sensationalized or pushing an agenda considering November is the first month SNAP is delayed? If it's true that someone is actually resorting to "hunting small game" it seems to indicate that it's a much larger issue than SNAP not arriving a week or so ago... no?
 
CallMeKate said:
I absolutely know that people are hungry... and it's horrible, But are you sure this story isn't sensationalized or pushing an agenda considering November is the first month SNAP is delayed? If it's true that someone is actually resorting to "hunting small game" it seems to indicate that it's a much larger issue than SNAP not arriving a week or so ago... no?
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Most peoples SNAP account are zeroed out 2 weeks after receipt so for most there has been no SNAP money available for a month. Yeah "much larger issue" is a VAST understatement.

Agenda's come in many forms like othering SNAP recipients as freeloading "welfare queens" (as seen above) or the poor people forced to eat "tree rats" aka squirrels. The reality for most is somewhere in btwn.
 
The topic was about ending SNAP benefits with little mention about the cause of not extending the subsidies of the ACA. Without getting into political what do others think about this?


Subsidizes insurance companies, not patients. Unlike other tax credits that individuals claim on their tax returns at the end of the year, most premium tax credits are paid in advance, directly to insurance companies, to lower the monthly premium bill. These direct subsidies allow the insurance industry to shift the vast majority of rising premiums onto taxpayers. Paragon Health Institute notes that these subsidies have been largely incorporated into insurance company profits. Since the premium subsidies were created in the Affordable Care Act, along with other industry-favorable spending increases, health insurer stock prices have increased more than 1,000 percent (compared with 251 percent growth for the S&P 500).

My opinion.
Shutting down the government over a future massive cost to taxpayers the had a finite end date in Dec. 2025 & boosts the profit of insurance companies is soooo wrong.
I guess we'll see what happens in DEC.
 
CallMeKate said:
I absolutely know that people are hungry... and it's horrible, But are you sure this story isn't sensationalized or pushing an agenda considering November is the first month SNAP is delayed? If it's true that someone is actually resorting to "hunting small game" it seems to indicate that it's a much larger issue than SNAP not arriving a week or so ago... no?
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If I were hungry, I would call the local churches. For that I needn't be a member of the church. There is a reason they enjoy tax-free status.
That goes also for the charities.
 
gruntlabor said:
If I were hungry, I would call the local churches. For that I needn't be a member of the church. There is a reason they enjoy tax-free status.
That goes also for the charities.
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That's what I was thinking, too... if I'd be on SNAP and a month's allowance wouldn't be loaded, pretty sure I'd try all the churches and food pantries before going out to shoot squirrels. 🤷‍♀️
 
Some of the pantries around here, from what I hear, are running quite short. I don't really know.

I know the town has a little free pantry hut, and had a donation fund raiser to stock it a couple weeks back. I know I see donation boxes for non perishable foods at the grocery store, from one group or another.

I know when I had a good job, my tax burden didn't seem excessive, because my take home was more than sufficient. I had also gotten my net take home shock when I was 14 or 15 and saw my first check. I know I liked things like decent roads to drive on or VA benefits.

I know it was drummed into me "NEVER LEAVE A MAN BEHIND". I carry this forward to fellow American, but I guess that's just not the 21st century way.

I know it upsets me when some who profess piety give to the needy, but's it's old out of date rusty canned goods, or stuff they got free and don't want.

I know I just don't get it.
 
CallMeKate said:
I absolutely know that people are hungry... and it's horrible, But are you sure this story isn't sensationalized or pushing an agenda considering November is the first month SNAP is delayed? If it's true that someone is actually resorting to "hunting small game" it seems to indicate that it's a much larger issue than SNAP not arriving a week or so ago... no?
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It was an interview with a local woman from Oregon. I just read the stories. I don't look for agendas. Sorry for bringing it up. I thought it would be useful to the discussion. My mistake.
 
Fritz said:
It was an interview with a local woman from Oregon. I just read the stories. I don't look for agendas. Sorry for bringing it up. I thought it would be useful to the discussion. My mistake.
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Oh my. :oops: You said you couldn't post it because it was political... if it was a political article, it would have had an agenda/slant. Maybe you didn't get my drift... sorry 'bout that.
 
Fritz said:
It was an interview with a local woman from Oregon. I just read the stories. I don't look for agendas. Sorry for bringing it up. I thought it would be useful to the discussion. My mistake.
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:) You should not be sorry for contributing to this forum. Free and honest discussion never harmed anyone, or, well, not too awfully many anyway, and it's done a lot of good in the world.
 
Knight said:
The topic was about ending SNAP benefits with little mention about the cause of not extending the subsidies of the ACA. Without getting into political what do others think about this?


Subsidizes insurance companies, not patients. Unlike other tax credits that individuals claim on their tax returns at the end of the year, most premium tax credits are paid in advance, directly to insurance companies, to lower the monthly premium bill. These direct subsidies allow the insurance industry to shift the vast majority of rising premiums onto taxpayers. Paragon Health Institute notes that these subsidies have been largely incorporated into insurance company profits. Since the premium subsidies were created in the Affordable Care Act, along with other industry-favorable spending increases, health insurer stock prices have increased more than 1,000 percent (compared with 251 percent growth for the S&P 500).

My opinion.
Shutting down the government over a future massive cost to taxpayers the had a finite end date in Dec. 2025 & boosts the profit of insurance companies is soooo wrong.
I guess we'll see what happens in DEC.
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Deciding whether public healthcare should be placed under the control of health insurance companies or a federal agency should never ever have become a thing in the first place.
 
CallMeKate said:
Oh my. :oops: You said you couldn't post it because it was political... if it was a political article, it would have had an agenda/slant. Maybe you didn't get my drift... sorry 'bout that.
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Since I don't really understand politics, I never view things as being slanted one way or another if that makes sense.
 
The squirrel story is complete bs.

I grew up in a poor family on welfare. The government, churches, neighbors and other groups in USA won't let you starve.

The fact is that need is different than want.

While we had some light humor earlier in this thread about rice and beans, it is a complete protein and a source of carbs. SNAP costs the taxpayers many times more than it should. $44 "retail" feeds the adult protein requirement for a month and less for children.

Vitamins and a few other items provide for full nutritional needs.

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As for churches helping those who need food, they do. I see it first hand because I volunteer at my church the 2nd Saturday of every month. Families in need fill out an application, their needs are assessed, and those who qualify are given a card, and they go through the line. Last Saturday, a typical family of two received a large frozen chicken, 5 pound bags each of fresh vegetables such as carrots, potatoes, and green beans, several packages of spaghetti and jars of sauce, a watermelon, eggplants, and more. Families with more than two were given additional amounts depending upon how many.

The North Texas Food Bank, which I donate to, is always in the news about helping neighbors in need.

And Concord Church in Dallas donated $400,000 to those in need. Here's a 1.28 minute video about it.

All of this does not replace SNAP.
 
Lawrence00 said:
The squirrel story is complete bs.

I grew up in a poor family on welfare. The government, churches, neighbors and other groups in USA won't let you starve.

The fact is that need is different than want.

While we had some light humor earlier in this thread about rice and beans, it is a complete protein and a source of carbs. SNAP costs the taxpayers many times more than it should. $44 "retail" feeds the adult protein requirement for a month and less for children.

Vitamins and a few other items provide for full nutritional needs.

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So you would be willing to live on nothing but beans and rice every day, every meal, and BTW if you didn't notice, the churches and food pantries are running out of stuff to meet the need.

That was mentioned in the "squirrels" BS story.
 
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Good move.
Fritz said:
So you would be willing to live on nothing but beans and rice every day, every meal, and BTW if you didn't notice, the churches and food pantries are running out of stuff to meet the need.

That was mentioned in the "squirrels" BS story.
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No he didn't say that; he said the monthly protein requirement for an adult could be met w $44 worth of rice and beans.
 
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