Actor/Director Rob Reiner found dead in home, apparent 'homicide'

Nathan said:
What a shocking, sad ending ending to such a stellar lifetime full of creative work and advocacy for social justice. RIP Rob and Michelle.
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Murder is horrifying whenever it happens, but to be killed by your own children... these children you've given everything to in the vast majority of cases.. and loved.... to die at their hands is just another level of evil
 
Both patricide and matricide are extremely rare. The son, Nick, likely had mental problems as well as having been wasted on drugs.

Being in L.A., one never knows what will happen in a trial when celebrities are involved. The defense may enter a plea of temporary insanity. If the kid planned it, it's capital murder. But something tells me he won't get anything like a life sentence.

I'm sure more will be revealed about motive, etc.
 
I think he'll probably get a life sentence. The judge took away his bail, because he was considered too dangerous to risk it. I have no doubt he has "mental problems," but the public needs to be protected from him. He sounds likely to end up being killed in a prison fight.

What a tragedy. His parents were such good people.
 
Sunny said:
I think he'll probably get a life sentence. The judge took away his bail, because he was considered too dangerous to risk it. I have no doubt he has "mental problems," but the public needs to be protected from him. He sounds likely to end up being killed in a prison fight.

What a tragedy. His parents were such good people.
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can you imagine the horror by the parents. The likelihood is he snuck up behind them both and slashed their throats ( they do say the throat slashing was the cause of their deaths)... but it;s possible that they might have been sitting in their armchiars.. and one might have witnessed the other being killed and maybe tried to escape..

It's just something I hope that most of us will never experience from our kids....
 
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RambleTamble said:
I have a hard time believing that Nick Reiner was destitute and living on the streets. I think when he claims he was "homeless," he might have been staying in hotels or living with friends.

Rob Reiner was a generous and compassionate person and not the type who would just cut off his son. The two had a good relationship.

So the question is, what the hell happened?
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His son may have indeed been homeless. I read he was homeless in three different cities. When people are strung out, no telling the choices they'll make. I have a step-son who is a very handsome young man. He chose to be homeless in Baltimore rather than live with at least two women who would have welcomed him. Sometimes they don't want to follow the rules of where they'll be staying. That's why many say no to shelters.

I read that Nick had a big argument with his mother the night before the murder. That may have been the trigger. How horribly sad that someone you raised and no doubt had unconditional love for winds up killing you and so brutally. One news report says their throats were slit as well as them being stabbed multiple times! :cry::mad: My BFF was the person I first heard about the murders from. She said Rob was such a humanitarian and obviously a very talented actor and director. So sad.
 
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Excessive drug and alcohol use can readily cause "mental problems", that don't need to be described as two different factors as though he already had unusual mental issues earlier in life and drugs made such worse. Hard drugs alone are so overwhelming with what they cause in human bodies, that the rest tends to be of minor significance. That noted, it is true if some kid with actual mental problems uses strong drugs, that they are likely to get worse. But numbers of the latter I'd expect, are far far lower than what drugs alone cause.

Drugs use is an immense negative issue in this human science and technology era that I expect will become worse as designer drugs continue to arise. For some like those drinking caffeinated drinks, not an issue at all, and ought not be discouraged, much less banned. What one person with good self control and behavior can handle at some level of drug use effectively to make enjoyment of their life better, without impacting others, or damaging their own bodies, may not be so for the next person with poor self control and a warped mind.

There is no way for societies to set some clear, fair for all threshold on what is ok and what is not. Black and white prohibition has proven to be unworkable while open freedom of any drug use has likewise proven to make society worse, thus is unwise.
 
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I wonder if Nick is schizophrenic and voices in his head told him to murder his parents. That would explain it why he did what he did, although that information probably would have come out by now. Not much else could explain it. Not only did he take the lives of his parents, but in all likelihood, he also threw his own life away. He'll probably spend the rest of his life in prison.
 
CallMeKate said:
He's on suicide watch. They often find a way... and my personal thought is that he won't make it to trial.
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I have read he suffers from a mental illness, so I would imagine suicide is possible. I hope the guards in his prison keep a watch. No matter what, he’s a human and deserves to go to trial and if he’s found to be mentally ill and can’t stand trial, we will have to live with it. I don’t know what they do in California. Some states treat a mentally ill convict until they can stand trial, if they are able, but some prisoners are never able to stand trial.
 
David777 said:
. What one person with good self control and behavior can handle at some level of drug use effectively to make enjoyment of their life better, without impacting others, or damaging their own bodies, may not be so for the next person with poor self control and a warped mind.
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The person who cannot handle hard drugs doesn't necessarily have poor self-control or a warped mind (whatever that is.) Many factors could contribute to drugs having a devastating effect on a person. The age of first use is important as a brain still growing in a 15 year-old is different than one of a 25 year old. The brain of someone with a genetic tendency toward mental illness is also different. Not everyone who eats a high carbohydrate diet will get diabetes, because insulin sensitivity varies from one pancreas to another. The person who enjoys cake and candy everyday and never gets diabetes is not superior to the one who does, just luckier.
David777 said:
Black and white prohibition has proven to be unworkable while open freedom of any drug use has likewise proven to make society worse, thus is unwise.
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I don't think prohibition, backed by good law enforcement, has been given a good chance.
 
I was wondering for a while how a single person, armed with a knife (not a gun, for once!) could manage to subdue and kill two people. Even if he snuck up on one, wouldn't the other one run out of the house as fast as possible?

But there are possible explanations. Both parents could have been asleep, and by the time the second one woke up and saw what was going on, it was too late. Or if he moved very quickly and stabbed each one in the heart, or cut their throats very skillfully (if that's the word), they may have been unable to run away. I wonder if he'll confess.

Almost like a horror movie. It's hard to believe, and even harder, considering how kind, decent, and talented his parents were. What a world.
 
ChiroDoc said:
Being in L.A., one never knows what will happen in a trial when celebrities are involved. The defense may enter a plea of temporary insanity. If the kid planned it, it's capital murder. But something tells me he won't get anything like a life sentence.
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I don't know what they're going to do, but something may be in the works already... he's not been "medically cleared" to appear in court. I think you're probably right about the insanity plea.
 
hollydolly said:
can you imagine the horror by the parents. The likelihood is he snuck up behind them both and slashed their throats ( they do say the throat slashing was the cause of their deaths)... but it;s possible that they might have been sitting in their armchiars.. and one might have witnessed the other being killed and maybe tried to escape..

It's just something I hope that most of us will never experience from our kids....
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I've seen and heard reports they were found in bed with their throats slit but don't know if they were posed or that's where he took them out. Wonder if he knew they took sleeping pills let alone their schedule. That's premeditation. They say knife attacks are personal as well.

Judging by his long history including drugs, mental health etc he's basically still stuck in teenage rebel mode because they say many stop maturing at the age their drug issues started.
 
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