Ice Ice... not baby but maybe bully

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hollydolly said:
it's kind of the same way that the Uk is going....imprisoning people for free speech, making everyone terrified of speaking their minds for fear of going to prison...
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When you first mentioned this I was surprised and since I have seen the articles about it. There was a time that I was hoping for grandchildren but now I’m glad that I only have to worry about what kind of world my kids will live in.
 
Sunkist said:
I tried to watch the regular video and the slow-motion one, had trouble following the first especially (am very tired), but when one of the accounts claimed she 'sped away,' she wasn't doing it of her own accord if she'd just been shot, right?
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I would assume she accelerated after being shot.

The news on TV tonight, had a close up photo of the windshield with a single bullet hole as I described in my post above.
 
Naturally said:
Link: Here is a zoomed in slowed down version.
I'm sorry but when LE has their guns drawn and they are demanding her to get out of her vehicle and she chose to try to drive away, what exactly did she think was going to happen? They were gonna wave and say bye-bye?

Vehicles have been used several times intentionally driving into crowds of people killing and maiming. If you are sitting in a running vehicle attempting to block a law enforcement action you may as well be holding a loaded weapon. They gave her a chance to shut it off and leave the vehicle. The moment after that when she put it in gear and started to move she became a deadly threat to anyone within blocks if she wasn't stopped.

Soon it will come out that she had mental issues I suppose.
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In the slowed version, I could understand how the cop might have thought she was lunging towards him.
 
Teacher Terry said:
When you first mentioned this I was surprised and since I have seen the articles about it. There was a time that I was hoping for grandchildren but now I’m glad that I only have to worry about what kind of world my kids will live in.
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yep ..same same...I really would have like grandchildren.. but now this world is so corrupt and horrible..I'm glad my daughter chose not to bring any children into this world... ..
 
I'm against protestors who show up to provoke and agitate law enforcement.
None of the people who didn't show up to protest were in any danger of getting hurt.
Case in point all the neighbors on the street who used common sense and stayed out of harm's way.

In this case, that woman in the vehicle should never have been shot to death and the guy who did it goes to jail.
 
In a video I watched, she is up the street , in her car, having some sort of altercation with ICE already, hard to see what it is, even before she drives down to where she had the next incident, in which she was shot. Most of the videos do not show the previous incident. Would be good to know what happened before, up the street about 50 feet, that led up to the few seconds of video that they keep looping ad infinitum.
 
OldFeller said:
I'm against protestors who show up to provoke and agitate law enforcement.
None of the people who didn't show up to protest were in any danger of getting hurt.
Case in point all the neighbors on the street who used common sense and stayed out of harm's way.

In this case, that woman in the vehicle should never have been shot to death and the guy who did it goes to jail.
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I agree with most of what you said.. I don't approve of protests in general, never known of any to accomplish anything except agitating people and innocent people getting hurt or worse..

However, I think bystanders did the right thing in taking videos.. the more proof of what occurred, the better.
 
RandomName said:
In a video I watched, she is up the street , in her car, having some sort of altercation with ICE already, hard to see what it is, even before she drives down to where she had the next incident, in which she was shot. Most of the videos do not show the previous incident. Would be good to know what happened before, up the street about 50 feet, that led up to the few seconds of video that they keep looping ad infinitum.
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yes I did say that earlier that we didn't see what happened previously if anything... that's yet to be told.... but I think going by the absolute outrage of the crowds who witnessed the whole thing... and then when she was shot.. you can kinda gauge that they felt she did not deserve to be killed....
 
hollydolly said:
Same would happen here... but going just by what we've seen in the media..and Please believe I'm all for arresting people who are not obeying lawful orders... or if they are really a danger then they should perhaps be shot if all else fails ... but just watching the video... that Ice guy seemed to be very trigger happy, there was no need from what we saw for him to fire 3 times into her face... ..it looked to me like she was reversing to pullaway....
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Some ICE agents are bad apples because the goal has been to recruit as many as possible. That means the vetting process is thin. If 2000 ICE agents were sent to Minneapolis alone it is clearly a numbers game... quantity over quality. Tragic, but not surprising.
 
Michael Z said:
In one clip I saw the agent near the front fender, but it did not look like they were in front of the vehicle. As such, it appears the vehicle was a means of escape, not a weapon. So use of deadly force would not be justified if that were the case.
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Besides the link listed in the OP, have you not read any report that stated, "... allegedly trying to ram officers with her car"? Maybe you're seeing what you want to see instead of what most news reports are stating. Dunno
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And why are you so sure the person was making ANY threats????
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That's why I put it in parenthesis. We don't know what was said. She could have been offering a recipe for chocolate chip cookies for all I know ... or saying nothing at all 🤷‍♂️
 
Naturally said:
Besides the link listed in the OP, have you not read any report that stated, "... allegedly trying to ram officers with her car"? Maybe you're seeing what you want to see instead of what most news reports are stating. Dunno

That's why I put it in parenthesis. We don't know what was said. She could have been offering a recipe for chocolate chip cookies for all I know ... or saying nothing at all 🤷‍♂️
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And haven't you read any that said that account is 'b.s.'? (referring to your first statement)
 
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