Some events we are told never to forget Covid is not one of them.

[Dr.Colosso]

This is from the TV series The Pitt, which accurately depicts the mentality of many conspiracy theorists...

I am vaccinated and not against vaccins and I wore mouth cappies and stayed away from people and didn't let them come over.

Explain to me why a man says on a video from 2010 that another man heard in 2005 that China would catch a cold and they were laughing and it was designed to spread like wildfire.

 

[Dr.Colosso]

As an SS officer, he was partly responsible for the delivery of Zyklon-B to Auschwitz, and at the Belzec extermination camp, he witnessed a gassing. Shocked by what he had witnessed, he sought contact with representatives of neutral countries, the Catholic and Protestant churches, and the Dutch resistance. He hoped his testimony would be made public worldwide and that world leaders, including the Pope, would speak out against the genocide. But instead, he encountered disbelief and opposition.

 

[Dr.Colosso]

Five years after COVID-19 emerged, killing millions, costing trillions, and disrupting global life, we still don’t have a definitive answer as to the origins of the pandemic and the virus. This continued uncertainty is not due to scientific limitations but the withholding of critical information, particularly by China.

In June 2025, the WHO’s Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens (SAGO), a panel of 27 international experts, published its most thorough analysis to date. What SAGO said is clear: Without China providing fundamental data, definitive conclusions remain impossible.

SAGO explicitly called for detailed records from several countries, especially China, but also Germany and the United States.
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[Della]

I'll remember it and I won't have any trouble remembering the date because it's not called Covid-19 for no reason. We don't have memorial days for the Spanish flu of 1918. It was 101 years earlier but we know about it. At the time we blamed Spain for it, but now we know it was started on an American Army Camp by burning a great big pile of waste. The toxic smoke got in enough soldier's lungs to start the flu. They were on the ship to Europe by the time they got sick so it spread and spread. Oops. Maybe it will take just as long to find out exactly where Covid started.

Maybe I'm the only person but I don't look back on that time as all horrible -- and I had it bad enough to be hospitalized (no comorbidities.)
I thought it was all extremely interesting. A unique moment in history and a big break from routine.

Don't get me wrong, I was very sad about the deaths and I know the doctors and nurses had a horrible time. My son had to go to work and confront hundreds of people through the whole thing and I would have him put his clothes in the washer the minute he walked through the door every day. I was always worried about him.

Still I'm not upset about any of the precautions we all made, some not needed as we know now. I think we were all just feeling our way through an unprecedented situation. I listened to Governor DeWine on the radio every afternoon and it was clear he was very concerned about the people of Ohio and was making the best decisions he could.

 

[Tazx]

I'll remember it and I won't have any trouble remembering the date because it's not called Covid-19 for no reason. We don't have memorial days for the Spanish flu of 1918. It was 101 years earlier but we know about it. At the time we blamed Spain for it, but now we know it was started on an American Army Camp by burning a great big pile of waste. The toxic smoke got in enough soldier's lungs to start the flu. They were on the ship to Europe by the time they got sick so it spread and spread. Oops. Maybe it will take just as long to find out exactly where Covid started.

Maybe I'm the only person but I don't look back on that time as all horrible -- and I had it bad enough to be hospitalized (no comorbidities.)
I thought it was all extremely interesting. A unique moment in history and a big break from routine.

Don't get me wrong, I was very sad about the deaths and I know the doctors and nurses had a horrible time. My son had to go to work and confront hundreds of people through the whole thing and I would have him put his clothes in the washer the minute he walked through the door every day. I was always worried about him.

Still I'm not upset about any of the precautions we all made, some not needed as we know now. I think we were all just feeling our way through an unprecedented situation. I listened to Governor DeWine on the radio every afternoon and it was clear he was very concerned about the people of Ohio and was making the best decisions he could.

I love the way you explained your post.

Excellent.

 

[Tazx]

I think why a lot of people can't let go, like myself, is that they tried to take away our rights for what turned out to be lies. The constitutions of the world can not be paused because the govt says so!
No one had the right to make me/coerce me and others to get a vaccine, wear a mask, stay 6 feet away, prevent us from working, travel etc.
I was all for you making your choices, and I make mine. But it wasn't that way, was it. It was we were all evil for not following along. But no one thought to think that we would be the ones to suffer if we didn't go along. After all whoever got vaxxed, wore a mask, stayed home did whatever, should have noooo concerns about us. You were protected by what you did. If you weren't, then the protections you did, did not work.
As evidence of millions of tickets dropped in Ontario and Alberta, none of it was legal/lawful. 17k lawsuits against business for loss of job.
I think if they said...'hey, theres a new coronovirus that happens to be worse than the other 200 versions out there, and we think you should take precautions, possibly wear a mask, stay away from people, if you are ill, weaker or have a medical issue, and we are working on a vaccine that may or may not work, but for the healthiest people, no need to worry'...we wouldn't have cared one bit. It was the absolute tyranny of it all that I can not forget. Or forgive.

In Canada, approx 60k people died with covid/of covid over the span of whatever 'covid' was.
So over the course of 3-4 years (depending when Can declared it was over), 60k people died of/with this thing. On the govt website it says 1.2 percent fatality rate. It also says 92.8 percent were over 60, with a further 5 percent over 50. So, 97.8 percent over 50 and 97 percent of those had underlying health conditions as they call it. I guess co-morbidities now is underlying health conditions. From 0-49 there was 930 deaths and they admit underlying health conditions contributed overwhelmingly to that demographic.
So, now a bit of an off shoot. According to Health Can, 46-54k Canadians die of smoking related illnesses, and another 7-12k of second hand smoking related illness. I never have ever, nor have I seen, read or heard of people saying 'They should be denied health care', or 'that they should lose their jobs unless the quit smoking', or 'they should die', or 'they cant get on a plane smelling of smoke', etc. You get the gist!
This could also be said of alcoholics. 18k direct deaths due to liver issues, pancreas, poisoning etc. Then the vehicular deaths/crashes or violence related to alcohol another 1500-3500 or more (a big difference) (harder to prove I guess), and once again I dont see an uproar in society.

So lets take them both-which are choices-and they are approx 64k-72k PER YEAR, not over 4 years, but yearly! Over 4 years thats 250k plus - 280k plus deaths that are no ones fault but their own. I don't see a societal uproar, discrimination, degrading, shaming what have you. Nope not at all. Even though their direct actions can affect others! Nope, we just let you make your own choices however idiotic, stupid or insane they may be, but we dont care. They are your choices. The LAW states you can make those choices for your self, just like one of the most powerful choices you can make DNR when in hospital. No tells you that you are stupid or dumb or says you should be in jail for that.

I think thats the biggest thing. Is that people thought they could police others for their choices. Shame them, fire them, deny, them etc. How would the 43 percent of Canadians feel if each time we saw you smoking we told you to go home, eff off, your killing grandma with your second hand smoke, you should not be allowed to get on a bus cause you smell of smoke, and so on. They would absolutely go nuts! But it was somehow different this time.
No, it isn't any different. The law is the law. It doesn't change cause its winter, doesn't change cause of a recession, forest fires, war, natural disasters or anything. But somehow it kinda did then didn't it? I mean all the tickets were wiped out, nurses won law suits, an so on, but the fact is people tried. Thats really disappointing.

That is a really bad sign for humanity. Some forums say that most people acted just like the nazi/communist collaborators back in the bad times. And you can see how.
Very sad time that we never learned from the past. We just do it over and over again.

 

[Dr.Colosso]

I think why a lot of people can't let go, like myself, is that they tried to take away our rights for what turned out to be lies. The constitutions of the world can not be paused because the govt says so!
No one had the right to make me/coerce me and others to get a vaccine, wear a mask, stay 6 feet away, prevent us from working, travel etc.
I was all for you making your choices, and I make mine. But it wasn't that way, was it. It was we were all evil for not following along. But no one thought to think that we would be the ones to suffer if we didn't go along. After all whoever got vaxxed, wore a mask, stayed home did whatever, should have noooo concerns about us. You were protected by what you did. If you weren't, then the protections you did, did not work.
As evidence of millions of tickets dropped in Ontario and Alberta, none of it was legal/lawful. 17k lawsuits against business for loss of job.
I think if they said...'hey, theres a new coronovirus that happens to be worse than the other 200 versions out there, and we think you should take precautions, possibly wear a mask, stay away from people, if you are ill, weaker or have a medical issue, and we are working on a vaccine that may or may not work, but for the healthiest people, no need to worry'...we wouldn't have cared one bit. It was the absolute tyranny of it all that I can not forget. Or forgive.

In Canada, approx 60k people died with covid/of covid over the span of whatever 'covid' was.
So over the course of 3-4 years (depending when Can declared it was over), 60k people died of/with this thing. On the govt website it says 1.2 percent fatality rate. It also says 92.8 percent were over 60, with a further 5 percent over 50. So, 97.8 percent over 50 and 97 percent of those had underlying health conditions as they call it. I guess co-morbidities now is underlying health conditions. From 0-49 there was 930 deaths and they admit underlying health conditions contributed overwhelmingly to that demographic.
So, now a bit of an off shoot. According to Health Can, 46-54k Canadians die of smoking related illnesses, and another 7-12k of second hand smoking related illness. I never have ever, nor have I seen, read or heard of people saying 'They should be denied health care', or 'that they should lose their jobs unless the quit smoking', or 'they should die', or 'they cant get on a plane smelling of smoke', etc. You get the gist!
This could also be said of alcoholics. 18k direct deaths due to liver issues, pancreas, poisoning etc. Then the vehicular deaths/crashes or violence related to alcohol another 1500-3500 or more (a big difference) (harder to prove I guess), and once again I dont see an uproar in society.

So lets take them both-which are choices-and they are approx 64k-72k PER YEAR, not over 4 years, but yearly! Over 4 years thats 250k plus - 280k plus deaths that are no ones fault but their own. I don't see a societal uproar, discrimination, degrading, shaming what have you. Nope not at all. Even though their direct actions can affect others! Nope, we just let you make your own choices however idiotic, stupid or insane they may be, but we dont care. They are your choices. The LAW states you can make those choices for your self, just like one of the most powerful choices you can make DNR when in hospital. No tells you that you are stupid or dumb or says you should be in jail for that.

I think thats the biggest thing. Is that people thought they could police others for their choices. Shame them, fire them, deny, them etc. How would the 43 percent of Canadians feel if each time we saw you smoking we told you to go home, eff off, your killing grandma with your second hand smoke, you should not be allowed to get on a bus cause you smell of smoke, and so on. They would absolutely go nuts! But it was somehow different this time.
No, it isn't any different. The law is the law. It doesn't change cause its winter, doesn't change cause of a recession, forest fires, war, natural disasters or anything. But somehow it kinda did then didn't it? I mean all the tickets were wiped out, nurses won law suits, an so on, but the fact is people tried. Thats really disappointing.

That is a really bad sign for humanity. Some forums say that most people acted just like the nazi/communist collaborators back in the bad times. And you can see how.
Very sad time that we never learned from the past. We just do it over and over again.

I do understand that they didn't let people in without a mask, but indeed compared to flu from which a lot of elderly died, the reaction and control was extreme. On one hand understandable.

It always irritated me. I just got a baby and in church all the time people would come with their very sick kid. This was long before covid. Oh yes let her just touch the baby. Go away with your disgusting germs. But then I was always seen as an imbecile and don't whine that they made your baby sick on purpose. That's normal. While in Canada I went to a church. They just had a paper on the wall: no sick kids welcome in the nursery. But in Holland it was always fine to irritate others with viruses. Yeah I can't get a babysitter. Go make the whole class sick.

And with covid my extreme reaction was all of a sudden normal. They arrested a doctor who treated his patients and they got better. Forbidden. He was forced to only push the vaccin.

But in homes for elderly, I read that in Belgium and Spain the people working there just left and just let all these old people die. That was in the beginning. In Holland people were not allowed to visit, but why then not take your parent in your own house, cause if one with a filthy virus came in they could kill everyone there.

Parents who refused to vaccinate. You can't blame the child care facilities and schools. It's selfish to risk the life of the other kids, school teachers, their family members. Keep your kid home if you don't want to vaccinate. That was also with other vaccinations. Only outbreaks in extreme christian Dutch reformed places who believe God gives sickness and you may not go against His will. Great. Don't bother others with that belief by infecting them. Some people could not be vaccinated and had to be protected.

What was evil was that people were forced to stop businesses. They should at least have compensated them better.
But I just read in the Dutch Newspaper that people who were forced to work are now still sick and can never work again. That's the other side.

 

[Dr.Colosso]

Wanneer Spaanse soldaten rusthuizen desinfecteren, treffen ze bejaarde bewoners dood aan in hun bed



When Spanish soldiers disinfect nursing homes, they find elderly residents dead in their beds.
Spain is one of the countries hardest hit by the coronavirus. Soldiers are helping to contain the outbreak. But when they disinfect nursing homes, they often find residents completely abandoned. Or even dead in their beds. No trace of the caregivers.

KVE
Source: Die Welt, El Mundo, SER
March 24, 2020, 12:30 PM
12:00 AM
12:48 AM / 12:48 AM

In Spain, the situation is dramatic and the toll is high. Authorities have deployed the army to disinfect public places such as airports and metro stations. But soldiers are also being sent to nursing homes. What they find there defies belief. Often, the residents are left completely to fend for themselves due to a lack of staff. No one seems to care for them. In some cases, the residents are found dead. This situation appears to be occurring in nursing homes across the country, but more detailed information is not yet available.

Defense Minister Margarita Robles confirmed on Monday that soldiers had found residents dead in their beds. The Spanish Public Prosecutor's Office has launched an investigation into the conditions in these nursing homes. The government will be "strict and unyielding" if it turns out that residents in these homes have been abandoned, Robles said. Dozens of nursing home residents have already died from COVID-19 in Spain in recent months.

 

[Dr.Colosso]

New Zealand was strategic in getting people to conform by appealing to a sense of community," said Jeffrey Hopkins, a cultural geographer at Western University.


This is precisely the kind of messaging that motivates people to trust and comply, said Simon Bacon, a behavioural scientist at Concordia University in Montreal who is leading iCARE, an international survey of attitudes toward the pandemic.

"It's about appealing to an altruistic sense of taking care of others," Bacon said.

The results of the survey, answered by 50,000 people in 150 countries, were clear: most people aren't motivated by guilt, threats or penalties.

"When the messaging is 'Don't do this or people will die,' it doesn't resonate. It's a negative consequence. What people are looking for is that by complying with lockdowns, lives are being saved. We see this across the board."

However, Hopkins noted that New Zealand also had a measure of luck, which it shares with Iceland.

"Because it's an island, it was easier to contain it," he said.


In Italy's case, the population's lack of trust in government, the third T, which tends to be lower than in neighbouring countries, made containing the outbreak more difficult, said Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist at the University of Toronto.

Trust, he says, affects how much the public complies with confinement orders, especially at a time when the severity of the virus was still a bit of a mystery.

"Italy tried being stringent, but the population ignored it," Furness said. "Italians are cynical about the government. The army had to be called in, and by then it was too late."

Italy and China also have many large, multigenerational households that likely helped exacerbate their outbreaks, he said.

"The young people went out to party, got a mild case of COVID, then went home and infected their elderly parents and grandparents, many of whom developed severe or fatal illness," he said.

Italy recorded 570 deaths per million people, one of the highest rates in the world. At its worst, the pandemic was so brutal that some hospitals in Italy had to impose wartime triage, prioritizing care for patients with a better chance of survival.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-countries-response-1.5617898


My dad sent an email then. Hi You're all not welcome here. I want to stay alive.
Greetings
Your unsympathetic dad
LOL

 

[StarSong]

Yeah good luck with that. Deny all you want. Even hardcore vax advocates are seeing the truth. Covid was a giant misinformation campaign/pysop, only dangerous to a very little few, (unfortunately the ailing or ill) and none of the 'recommendations' actually was based on science. I could have flipped a coin and got better advice. Govt emails show they knew this but kept the lie up. Most govts are treasonous for what they have done.

Here's my question: Why are you so invested in this? Anyone who even remotely followed the news is well aware that mistakes were made and much advice was overkill, especially early on. {{{shrug}}} We do the best we can until more information is made available. The frequent use of hand sanitizer and leaving my groceries in the garage for two days before bringing them into the house did me no harm.

Dangerous to a "very little few," perhaps. But if you or someone you love is among them, overall stats mean little.

My dear friend in the Northeast is slowly getting over a nasty Covid infection that has sidelined her for three weeks and counting. Another in the Midwest tested positive just a few days ago and has been hit hard with it.

Covid was a psyop? A clandestine psychological act? To what end, exactly?

Just like this epstein papers now showing that a certain person was in it as well. The dammin evidence is there and no one is demanding that people be arrested. Heck an email was in those docs that said a certain ex royal ended someones life. But eh, must be fake right!

This is a horse of a different color. BTW, many are demanding arrests, but powerful people are protecting themselves and their buddies.

 

[StarSong]

At the time we blamed Spain for it, but now we know it was started on an American Army Camp by burning a great big pile of waste. The toxic smoke got in enough soldier's lungs to start the flu. They were on the ship to Europe by the time they got sick so it spread and spread. Oops. Maybe it will take just as long to find out exactly where Covid started.

What??? The "Spanish Flu" was so named because Spain was among the first countries to publicly acknowledge what was happening.

The 1918 pandemic virus itself was H1N1, a subtype of Influenza A. Although cases in Kansas in 1918 are often credited as the birthplace of that flu, recent studies suggest the virus first started showing up as early as 1915 in various parts of the world. Influenza is a constantly evolving virus.

The H1N1 was particularly contagious and quite deadly to healthy young people because their robust immune systems overreacted, causing great damage to their organs.

 

[Dr.Colosso]

This is a horse of a different color. BTW, many are demanding arrests, but powerful people are protecting themselves and their buddies.

They may be the same people. That woman who recently died, Giuffre named some name I won't type and I'm not gonna repeat the satanic stuff she said. If he did that then why would he not be in the group planning a biological weapon and a war against Iran.

I think most in governments meant well. But if there is an evil club planning, like that guy said in the 2010 video, then they can use this. With the next bioweapon people will not resist and demand them to force those that do. And then they can control the bunch when there is a total chaos.

 

[hollydolly]

Wanneer Spaanse soldaten rusthuizen desinfecteren, treffen ze bejaarde bewoners dood aan in hun bed



When Spanish soldiers disinfect nursing homes, they find elderly residents dead in their beds.
Spain is one of the countries hardest hit by the coronavirus. Soldiers are helping to contain the outbreak. But when they disinfect nursing homes, they often find residents completely abandoned. Or even dead in their beds. No trace of the caregivers.

KVE
Source: Die Welt, El Mundo, SER
March 24, 2020, 12:30 PM
12:00 AM
12:48 AM / 12:48 AM

In Spain, the situation is dramatic and the toll is high. Authorities have deployed the army to disinfect public places such as airports and metro stations. But soldiers are also being sent to nursing homes. What they find there defies belief. Often, the residents are left completely to fend for themselves due to a lack of staff. No one seems to care for them. In some cases, the residents are found dead. This situation appears to be occurring in nursing homes across the country, but more detailed information is not yet available.

Defense Minister Margarita Robles confirmed on Monday that soldiers had found residents dead in their beds. The Spanish Public Prosecutor's Office has launched an investigation into the conditions in these nursing homes. The government will be "strict and unyielding" if it turns out that residents in these homes have been abandoned, Robles said. Dozens of nursing home residents have already died from COVID-19 in Spain in recent months.

I can talk authoritively about what happened in Spain, and it was worse than most places other than the UK..

In Spain you could walk outside of your home directly outside if you had a dog.. that had to be walked.

You could go to work, but you mut have proof that you work at the place that you do, and you must go the most direct route..no going to grandmas house first or to the shops...

The army were brought in to stop cars and check.

All shopping had to be done at the stores closest to where you lived, if you were found further away then you faced a big fine... people were terrified of being stopped.

My daughter who lived in the mountains had to take her dogs to the Vets.., and she had to have letter from the vet saying she had an appointment.. otherwise the police would not allow her to continue on the road... she'd then usually have to go to a phaarmacy for the meds for the dogs, and she'd take a great chance of being caught and visit her partners' elderly father who lived alone.....on her way home..

In some ways she luckier than most because she lived in the mountaisn and had no neighbours so the air was fresh and clean... and she had 5 acres of Land so plenty to walk and exercise the dogs... but it meant that they were stuck up there for many months and couldn't travel anywhere except for the aforesaid necessities


here were the Police and army in Spain policing the streets...

 

[Sunkist]

I can talk authorively about what happened in Spain, and it was worse than most places other than the UK..

In Spain you could walk outside of your home directly outside if you had a dog.. that had to be walked.

You could go to work, but you mut have proof that you work at the place that you do, and you must go the most direct route..no going to grandmas house first or to the shops...

The army were brought in to stop cars and check.

All shopping had to be done at the stores closest to where you lived, if you were found further away then you faced a big fine... people were terrified of being stopped.

My daughter who lived in the mountains had to take her dogs to the Vets.., and she had to have letter from the vet saying she had an appointment.. otherwise the police would not allow her to continue on the road... she'd then usually have to go to a phaarmacy for the meds for the dogs, and she'd take a great chance of being caught and visit her partners' elderly father who lived alone.....on her way home..

In some ways she luckier than most because she lived in the mountaisn and had no neighbours so the air was fresh and clean... and she had 5 acres of Land so plenty to walk and exercise the dogs... but it meant that they were stuck up there for many months and couldn't travel anywhere except for the aforesaid necessities


here were the Police and army in Spain policing the streets...
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Oh my.. how long did those rules and regulations last, before people could resume their normal everyday lives?

 

[hollydolly]

Oh my.. how long did those rules and regulations last, before people could resume their normal everyday lives?

about 5 months If I remember rightly....

 

[hollydolly]

Here in the Uk.. all the shops closed.. and those that did stay open like Supermarkets were only allowing 6 people in at a time.. so they queues were massive all around the car park, even in the poruing rain.

Police would stop people who didn't have a mask on if they were travelling on public transport, and issue big fines...

The supermarkets of course had mostly empty shelves, so people were terrieifed that standing a queue... for ages would mean there was nothing left for them to buy.

One time I went shopping, and without thinking I put 3 one litre cartons of milk into the trolley and as I was walking towards the checkouts an assistant grabbed one..literally snatched it out of the trolley, and screamed ''Your only allowed 2 items at a time''... as tho' I was a thief... if I;d been anywhere else I would have punched her in the mouth ..not kidding...


Places like Ikea were not allowed to open at all.. this was the queue for Ikea the first day they were allowed to open....





this is a typical photo of the police demanding a traveller put on a Mask...at a train station....eveb tho' there was no other passengers there..

 

[hollydolly]

 

[Sunkist]

I worked from home anyway, so it didn't affect me as much as it did many other people.

One thing I do recall was there wasn't a single pack or roll of bathroom tissue to be found in any store in the entire city. The landlord somehow managed to access a supply, and went around giving each tenant two free rolls; that was nice of him. It was quite awhile before stores began to restock bathroom tissue.

 

[hollydolly]

This was Tesco our biggest Supermarket chain, where they snatched the milk from me... and when they said 1 toilet roll... they didn't mean one packet.. they meant one SINGLE toilet roll

 

[Sunkist]

Oh, and all of the stores and city buses had boxes of masks, everybody could take a mask for free.

 

[StarSong]

When seeing photos like these, it all comes flooding back.

Governments instituted these kinds of controls because hospitals, morgues and funeral homes were jammed and healthcare workers were burning out. Schools were closed partly to protect kids from being infected, but mostly to protect teachers, admins and the general population.

Viruses rip through schools like wildfire so kids wind up infecting siblings, parents, grandparents, neighbors, you-name-it.

 

[RambleTamble]

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People were waiting in line to shop at IKEA? The world has gone mad!

 

[hollydolly]

In Spain as in the Uk they blocked off the beaches.. and the mountains.. madness.. no-one could walk out on the fresh air in the mountains at all... In the Uk...a popular area in the North of England is a place called the Peak district... this is it...

They sent up drones to catch anyone walking out there.. and wrecked beauty spots by dumping gallons of black dye into the lakes and rivers.. to stop visitors ... until a Judge eventually ruled them to be in the wrong .. for now allowing people out in the fresh air..

So then there was a limit put on how long we could be out...just one hour.. and they strapped up all the park benches so no-one could sit down... and if we were foud sitting then we were fined

 

[hollydolly]

People were waiting in line to shop at IKEA? The world has gone mad!

yes maybe..however I understood it because we'd only had supermarkets open for months, no-one was allowed to go anywhere else.. so when Ikea reopened which was the first store to be allowed to open...people flocked to it, as much for the sense of freedom as anything else I think...

 

[hollydolly]

This was the report from the US... in 2020... coincidentally on my birthday 17th of April ...





These were the pictures taken on Hart Island NY.... on April 19th 2020...


Mass Grave digging and burials....