An 80-year-old woman died of a heart attack during sex. Suicide, homicide, or ?

OregonGuy

OregonGuy

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Does her partner's age matter? Is her partner's knowledge of her heart medication relevant? Is her signed consent form and payment significant?

When I presented this question to CoPlot the AI responded...

The circumstances surrounding her death raise questions about liability and intent. If the partner was aware of her medical risks and still proceeded, could this be considered negligence? The financial transaction and explicit consent might complicate the legal interpretation, potentially shifting the focus from criminal responsibility to issues of informed consent and personal autonomy. Ultimately, the case depends on the specifics of their relationship, the medical evidence, and the context in which these events occurred.

Apparently the AI did not understand the book "The Joy Of Sex" and did not know some of us Seniors think sex is a great way to go!
 
I don't think the facts as presented show that it is suicide or homicide.
The lady was responsible for knowing the risk and for the outcome of taking the risk. I really don't see how the guy did anything wrong since it was consensual.
 
On his 70th birthday, a man was given a gift certificate from his wife. The certificate was for a consultation with an traditional healer, who was well known to have a very good naturopathic cure for erectile dysfunction! As he despised western medicine, believing the conspiracy theory that they only represent the interests of big pharma, he consulted with the traditional healer.

The healer gave him a potion and with a strong grip on his shoulder warned, This is a powerful medicine. You take only a teaspoonful, and then say ā€™1-2-3.ā€™ When you do, you will become more manly than you have ever been in your life, and you can perform for as long as you want."
The man thanked the healer and as he walked away, he turned and asked, "How do I stop the medicine from working?" "Your partner must say ā€™1-2-3-4,ā€™ he responded, "but when she does, the medicine will not work again until the next full moon."

He was very eager to see if it worked, so he went home, showered, shaved, took a spoonful of the medicine, and then invited his wife to join him in the bedroom. When she came in, he took off his clothes and said, "1-2-3!" Immediately, he was fully erect! His wife was excited and began throwing off her clothes, and then she asked, "What was the 1-2-3 for?"

And that, boys and girls, is why we should never end our sentences with a preposition, because we could end up with a dangling participle!
 
We had an elderly couple in the nursing home. By elderly, I mean in their 80's. He was a hardheaded man, and she was sweet and mild with dementia. He insisted he have sex with her despite the fact that she had no idea what was going on. We had to allow them their privacy because that was his "right" as her husband. Was that rape? Luckily, he didn't physically hurt her that we were aware of, but she had no idea what had happened once it was over with. She wasn't in a position to consent or refuse. Luckily, she didn't die during the act.
 
TeePee said:
We had an elderly couple in the nursing home. By elderly, I mean in their 80's. He was a hardheaded man, and she was sweet and mild with dementia. He insisted he have sex with her despite the fact that she had no idea what was going on. We had to allow them their privacy because that was his "right" as her husband. Was that rape? Luckily, he didn't physically hurt her that we were aware of, but she had no idea what had happened once it was over with. She wasn't in a position to consent or refuse. Luckily, she didn't die during the act.
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OK, I get it, but it is still kind of weird. Wasn't there a recent thread about robotic love dolls? Was there a consensus outcome to the whole discussion?
 
JustDave said:
OK, I get it, but it is still kind of weird. Wasn't there a recent thread about robotic love dolls? Was there a consensus outcome to the whole discussion?
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I guess I missed that one. This topic was about whether the woman having sex was suicide or homicide. My concern was if the patient had died as a result of having non consentual sex, would that have been considered homicide. I think indirectly it would be homicide but nothing you could enforce because it wasn't intentional and it was her husband.
 
TeePee said:
I guess I missed that one. This topic was about whether the woman having sex was suicide or homicide. My concern was if the patient had died as a result of having non consentual sex, would that have been considered homicide. I think indirectly it would be homicide but nothing you could enforce because it wasn't intentional and it was her husband.
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Why would it being her husband be relevant?
 
TeePee said:
I guess I missed that one. This topic was about whether the woman having sex was suicide or homicide. My concern was if the patient had died as a result of having non consentual sex, would that have been considered homicide. I think indirectly it would be homicide but nothing you could enforce because it wasn't intentional and it was her husband.
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I could have had an opinion if I was either given more information, or understood it better. I don't know which one of those things I was lacking.
 
Sunkist said:
Why would it being her husband be relevant?
Sunkist said:
Why would it being her husband be relevant?
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Because if it wasn't her husband, then not only would it be homocide
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smiley said:
Bizzare - men's rights in this day and age?????
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It happened probably around 15 or more years ago. It was an administrative call, not the nursing staff. If it were up to nursing, we would have tried to prevent it.
 
Sunkist said:
Why would it being her husband be relevant?
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Because had it been a stranger, it would have been considered rape or a murder had it killed her. It being her husband, the law would probably overlook it. That happened a while back, I don't know how the administration would handle the situation nowadays.
 
TeePee said:
It happened probably around 15 or more years ago. It was an administrative call, not the nursing staff. If it were up to nursing, we would have tried to prevent it.
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in my day nand age it was always nursing who ran admin not this way around - the event was a social emotional and physiological event which needs professionals in that area not admin fgs
 
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