United States and Israel attack Iran Early Saturday Morning

George1959 said:
Yes. The country I'm living gets crude oil from Russia via the дружба (druzhba = friendship) pipeline. But Ukraine has stopped the transport. Nevertheless here is no panic since the supplies are for several months.
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Prices for gas have gone up insane here since Russia started the war. I was feeling guilty when heating my house, thinking I was using Russian gas, because then I fund the war. Turns out my flat gets heated by burned filth via hot water. Had no idea. That price has also gone up insane, just because of these money grabbing companies. It went from 65 a month to 250, but I only have two rooms to heat. The neighbour from upstairs paid 800 a month.
 
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Messy said:
Prices for gas have gone up insane here since Russia started the war. I was feeling guilty when heating my house, thinking I was using Russian gas, because then I fund the war. Turns out my flat gets heated by burned filth via hot water. Had no idea. That price has also gone up insane, just because of these money grabbing companies. It went from 65 a month to 250, but I only have to rooms to heat. The neighbour from upstairs paid 800 a month.
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OMG... how can you afford to heat your home ?

Electricity and gas is already very expensive here.. and I just put the heating on ( Gas central heating).. for an hour a day.. some days not at all... to keep the price down, but even doing that my bill this month for both electric and gas was £158...pounds.. = (180 euros)... $210 USD
 
hollydolly said:
OMG... how can you afford to heat your home ?

Electricity and gas is already very expensive here.. and I just put the heating on ( Gas central heating).. for an hour a day.. some days not at all... to keep the price down, but even doing that my bill this month for both electric and gas was £158...pounds.. = (180 euros)... $210 USD
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Yes a lot just stopped heating or went to minimal heating and back to the 70s. I fixed the holes myself. There was wind coming in and one hole was 2 cm. Bubble wrap on the windows. I thought: Eskimo's can keep it warm too.
 
I saw on the news this morning that we have 2 aircraft carriers in the region, each cost $6.5 million per day to operate. So, $13 million per day for just those 2 ships. Kuwait just shot down 3 F15 fighters each at a cost of $94 million, so total $282 million there. This is going to make our national debt of $38 trillion skyrocket. I hope the upside offsets the cost but I'm a skeptical.
 
hearlady said:
Curious. If someone attacks Finland who would they want to come help them?
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Finland is a part of NATO.
The difference between the USA and Finland that I tried to demonstrate above, is the fact that they are not allocating most of their budget on military but on the well-being of their citizens. As I am a pacifist, I approve of their priorities vs. ours.
 
Rossana said:
Maybe the USA should concentrate on USA instead of looking at regime change in other countries in the world.
Finland has the happiest people in the world. They live well because they concentrate on their own citizens!
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Yeah we live well in Holland too cause we never fight and in WWII the christian resistance was: let them kill you to save Jews. They asked Corrie ten Boom if she could kill a cop who was for the SS. No you may not kill. But it was quite nice that the Americans, British and Canadians did kill to deliver us.
 
Well.. those photos I posted they're not fantasy... I've just come back from Costco.... and the queues, at the pumps were unbelievable ..reminiscent of Christmas eve when people are filling tanks for the holidays... except this was tuesday morning... and 1/2 the pumps were locked off..sold out.... the queues were all out of the petrol forecourts and snaked around the Costco car park...

I should have taken a photo and I didn't even think of it.... but incredible to see.. I don't know how many pumps are at Costco.. there's a lot.. and at least 1/4 were already run dry... I've never ever seen that at Costco before...
 
Gas at the pump just spiked about 50 cents a gallon around here. As I understand it it averages about a month from when crude comes out of the ground to where you pump it into your tank as gas. So the way it looks to me for the next month or so the oil companies are making an extra 50 cents a gallon for the oil that they paid pre war prices for.

We consume about 376 million gallons of gas per day here in the US. So that works out to a $188 million a day windfall for the oil companies for the next month. And that's just for starters. At 42 gallons per barrel oil the price of oil would have to go up $21 a barrel to warrant a 50 cent per gallon increase in gas prices. So far it's only gone up something like $8 a barrel.

So it looks to me like this war is giving the oil companies an excuse to gouge us at the pump.
 
hollydolly said:
The problem is.. that not only does it mean a scarcity of petrol.. and oil for the customer at the pumps.. but it means higher prices in food...which no-one can really afford now as it is... and potentially big hikes to Electricity and gas ( heating).
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People get off....Trying to scare people.....It will be fine.....Bump in the road.
 
Trade said:
So it looks to me like this war is giving the oil companies an excuse to gouge us at the pump.
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Agree. Gas prices here $2.85 cents a gallon. Has not changed. Prices that change instantly means they are lining their pockets. In reality it takes time to affect the cost of oil and it will not affect all areas.
 
Messy said:
Prices for gas have gone up insane here since Russia started the war. I was feeling guilty when heating my house, thinking I was using Russian gas, because then I fund the war. Turns out my flat gets heated by burned filth via hot water. Had no idea. That price has also gone up insane, just because of these money grabbing companies. It went from 65 a month to 250, but I only have two rooms to heat. The neighbour from upstairs paid 800 a month.
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We do not have to say or show where we are from but if you don't, don't say the word "here" because no one knows what you are talking about.

My electric runs about $80 a mouth.
 
Iran is still launching drones. How many of them need near by controllers even if a few miles away. Which means they have spotters on the ground in some of these countries. Are they getting local support?
 
Trade said:
As I understand it it averages about a month from when crude comes out of the ground to where you pump it into your tank as gas.
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That is generally meant as from wellhead to pump, but for the crude prices, would include delivery at the refinery. Gasoline prices are based on what the next tanker load will cost. The relief is slow, when prices head down.
 
Pepper said:
Huh ????!?
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They hid them in their homes at their own risk. All the Jews in the house of Corrie ten Boom's family were safe, but she went to a camp, her sister too and she died there, her brother died. Her old dad, the Nazi's said that he could go home cause he was so old, if he shut up and stopped taking Jews in and otherwise he would get killed. He said he would always help everyone in need and it would be an honor for him to die for God's people and he died a few days later.

My mom, her family hid Jews, her brothers and dad went to a concentration camp for it, but didn't die. There were also people in the resistance who killed Nazi's, but not the christian ones because 'thou shalt not kill'.
 
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