United States and Israel attack Iran Early Saturday Morning

[Knight]

I saw on the news this morning that we have 2 aircraft carriers in the region, each cost $6.5 million per day to operate. So, $13 million per day for just those 2 ships.

Other than being in dry dock for repairs the daily cost while deployed would be the same no matter where the deployment was wouldn't it?

 

[Messy]

..understandable.. but in Messy's case we do know where she is because she's told us several times....

Today was the first day I didn't say Hup Holland Hup my country is so fabulous. I was once bragging to an American that my country is so social. I typed that in the train. Train was crammed, so I sat on the stairs. A guy had to get out, but I didn't pay attention, cause I was busy bragging how social we are. He stepped over my head and grumbled: Move it! You're in the way! The American said: Yes they're as social as rats LOL.

 

[George1959]

Finland is a part of NATO.
The difference between the USA and Finland that I tried to demonstrate above, is the fact that they are not allocating most of their budget on military but on the well-being of their citizens. As I am a pacifist, I approve of their priorities vs. ours.

You are completely right in doing this.

 

[George1959]

Gas at the pump just spiked about 50 cents a gallon around here. As I understand it it averages about a month from when crude comes out of the ground to where you pump it into your tank as gas. So the way it looks to me for the next month or so the oil companies are making an extra 50 cents a gallon for the oil that they paid pre war prices for.

We consume about 376 million gallons of gas per day here in the US. So that works out to a $188 million a day windfall for the oil companies for the next month. And that's just for starters. At 42 gallons per barrel oil the price of oil would have to go up $21 a barrel to warrant a 50 cent per gallon increase in gas prices. So far it's only gone up something like $8 a barrel.

So it looks to me like this war is giving the oil companies an excuse to gouge us at the pump.

Exactly! There is only one word for it: Greed!

 

[George1959]

Agree. Gas prices here $2.85 cents a gallon. Has not changed. Prices that change instantly means they are lining their pockets. In reality it takes time to affect the cost of oil and it will not affect all areas.

So it is.

 

[George1959]

Regarding panic. During the COVID-19 PLANdemic, German people hoarded toilet paper, French people bought red wine and condoms. No wonder that even the English speaking world knows the word angst from the Germans. It's the German angst, Germans fear everything, they even fear themselves.

 

[Teacher Terry]

In 2012 we bought a house that was only 1400 ft.² but it had electric baseboard heating. The first January we got a bill for $500 and we kept the heat at 68.

After that, we turned off the heat in the bedrooms during the day and only heated the rest of the house at 68. If we wanted to use one of the bedrooms during the day, since two of them were offices, we had space heaters that would warm up the room quickly with the door kept closed.

At 10 PM we turned off the heat in the rest of the house and set our bedroom at 68. it warmed up fairly quickly with the door closed.

When we got up in the morning, it was really cold in the main living area but never below 55. However, we were able to keep our electric bill at $160/month year round. I sold the house five years ago and I’m sure the prices are much higher now.

I often thought the buyer might’ve been shocked when they started to get their first electric bills because they would have no idea how we were keeping the price down so low.

In my Condo, we have central heating, AC and water systems that are boiler based. We don’t get individual bills and it’s in our HOA fees. However, I’ve been surprised at how reasonable it is when I reviewed the budget because I’m on the HOA board so the boilers must be fairly efficient. I do have a small electric bill for my condo which is basically my lights and the fan that runs the AC and heat.

 

[RambleTamble]

This war will be a disaster. But I can see a silver lining to it. But I can't say what it is because it's political.

It depends on how you look at it. Some people will make billions off it, so for them, it will have been an enormous success.

 

[Rich]

Other than being in dry dock for repairs the daily cost while deployed would be the same no matter where the deployment was wouldn't it?

I doubt it. If these carriers are in combat mode they'll be launching fighter bombers around the clock, supporting smaller ships, etc.