Do you think diet weight loss pills should be banned?

astralcat said:
I would like to see diet weight loss pills banned from being prescribed to those who want to lose weight. Weight loss will take place once calories are reduced. Along with a reduction in calories, it is recommended that people wanting to lose weight stay active and eat healthy, stay hydrated and get plenty of sleep.
Many people are not willing to make a lifetime commitment to this regimen. If they go on a diet, they will often slide back into their own ways once the desired weight is lost – thus re-gaining it all. Personally, I disagree with using GLP-1 medications to lose weight which, of course, is far easier.
There are some people who will be overweight due to medical reasons, i.e., hypothroidism, insulin resistance. In this instance work with your doctor to check your TSH levels to ensure you are at an optimal dose and work out a plan to lose the weight.
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I agree with everything said in this ^ post.
 
IrishEyes said:
I think they should only be prescribed by a Doctor with strict monitoring regularly.
I also think the patient needs an evaluation by a Psychiatrist or that sort to be sure
they have a healthy attitude toward reaching their goal and why they want to lose weight
and what their goal weight should be to reach a healthy one.
Losing mass amounts of weight will not leave many, if any, with bikini ready bodies especially when
loss is rapid.
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glad you shared that Irish. The counseling is important.
An acquaintance of mine, shared that the reason for her taking
the Ozempic, was so to finally and hopefully in her lifetime get
a decent man, and she wants to look good for him. Her words.
 
astralcat said:
I would like to see diet weight loss pills banned from being prescribed to those who want to lose weight. Weight loss will take place once calories are reduced. Along with a reduction in calories, it is recommended that people wanting to lose weight stay active and eat healthy, stay hydrated and get plenty of sleep.
Many people are not willing to make a lifetime commitment to this regimen. If they go on a diet, they will often slide back into their own ways once the desired weight is lost – thus re-gaining it all. Personally, I disagree with using GLP-1 medications to lose weight which, of course, is far easier.
There are some people who will be overweight due to medical reasons, i.e., hypothroidism, insulin resistance. In this instance work with your doctor to check your TSH levels to ensure you are at an optimal dose and work out a plan to lose the weight.
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It's always easy to look at overweight people and assume they don't know the basics of weight loss and/or that they lack will-power and commitment. Some people watch friends and neighbors lose weight and then gain it back and declare that, "Well of course, if they go back to their old ways they will regain the weight." -- as if they don't know this.

Here's a few words from Ohio State University Health:

When diets fail, it’s not simply because of a lack of willpower or moral character in the dieter. Our bodies are wired for survival, and they interpret less energy availability (through dieting) as a threat to survival. Therefore, our bodies react to calorie deprivation with countermeasures that include metabolic, hormonal and neurological changes that overwhelm willpower

Calorie restriction can lead to slower metabolism, increased hunger hormone (gherlin) and decreased satiety — or ‘feeling full’ — hormone (leptin). You not only feel hungrier, but you’re less likely to feel full or satisfied by what you eat. It tends to increase the mind’s preoccupation with food.

Several times I've gone on a balanced, healthy weight loss diet and exercise plan. Weighed and logged all my food on My Fitness Pal, never once slipped and ate anything sweet or gone over my calorie limit, and exercised six days a week. This plan always works great for me and I lose about 2 pounds a week for the first six months, then 1 pound a week and finally after about a year, I stop losing and begin to regain. Yes. Still eating 1200 calories per day and regaining the weight. Add increased hunger and insomnia. After a few months of regaining, only then, do go off the plan.

I think anyone who thinks I lack discipline or will-power or commitment should try being hungry 24 hours a day for 365 days and then maybe you won't be quite so judgmental and superior.
 
I'm biased, paranoid and possibly wrong. But I feel the majority of prescription drugs are just a way to mask symptoms and conditions. This seems to kill motivation for a doctor to actually find the real issue and try to fix it. It's an easy and very profitable method :(

Of course there are legitimate and helpful scenarios were drugs can help, but that is the exception, not something that should be considered the standard treatment.
 
Della said:
It's always easy to look at overweight people and assume they don't know the basics of weight loss and/or that they lack will-power and commitment. Some people watch friends and neighbors lose weight and then gain it back and declare that, "Well of course, if they go back to their old ways they will regain the weight." -- as if they don't know this.

Here's a few words from Ohio State University Health:

When diets fail, it’s not simply because of a lack of willpower or moral character in the dieter. Our bodies are wired for survival, and they interpret less energy availability (through dieting) as a threat to survival. Therefore, our bodies react to calorie deprivation with countermeasures that include metabolic, hormonal and neurological changes that overwhelm willpower

Calorie restriction can lead to slower metabolism, increased hunger hormone (gherlin) and decreased satiety — or ‘feeling full’ — hormone (leptin). You not only feel hungrier, but you’re less likely to feel full or satisfied by what you eat. It tends to increase the mind’s preoccupation with food.

Several times I've gone on a balanced, healthy weight loss diet and exercise plan. Weighed and logged all my food on My Fitness Pal, never once slipped and ate anything sweet or gone over my calorie limit, and exercised six days a week. This plan always works great for me and I lose about 2 pounds a week for the first six months, then 1 pound a week and finally after about a year, I stop losing and begin to regain. Yes. Still eating 1200 calories per day and regaining the weight. Add increased hunger and insomnia. After a few months of regaining, only then, do go off the plan.

I think anyone who thinks I lack discipline or will-power or commitment should try being hungry 24 hours a day for 365 days and then maybe you won't be quite so judgmental and superior.
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@Della

Been there, done that, sooo many times throughout my lifetime.
Metabolism swings make weight-loss challenging.

I hear you 🤗
 
outlander said:
But I feel the majority of prescription drugs are just a way to mask symptoms and conditions. This seems to kill motivation for a doctor to actually find the real issue and try to fix it. It's an easy and very profitable method :(

Of course there are legitimate and helpful scenarios were drugs can help, but that is the exception, not something that should be considered the standard treatment.
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^

(although I removed your first sentence/statement.. you are NOT wrong.)
 
Della said:
It's always easy to look at overweight people and assume they don't know the basics of weight loss and/or that they lack will-power and commitment. Some people watch friends and neighbors lose weight and then gain it back and declare that, "Well of course, if they go back to their old ways they will regain the weight." -- as if they don't know this.
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I am not sure if your comments were directed at me specifically, but I will respond. First of all the comment was a general one, not specifically targeting anyone and their methodology in losing weight. Anyone in a weight loss program should consult with a health care professional so he/she can monitor the process safely. Many people skip this advice and go it alone. When on a diet, the body undergoes metabolic changes and a restricted diet and excerise program may need to be adjusted. It was not my intention to appear judgmental or superior in any way and if I seemed so, I sincerely apologize.
 
Della said:
It's always easy to look at overweight people and assume they don't know the basics of weight loss and/or that they lack will-power and commitment. Some people watch friends and neighbors lose weight and then gain it back and declare that, "Well of course, if they go back to their old ways they will regain the weight." -- as if they don't know this.

Here's a few words from Ohio State University Health:

When diets fail, it’s not simply because of a lack of willpower or moral character in the dieter. Our bodies are wired for survival, and they interpret less energy availability (through dieting) as a threat to survival. Therefore, our bodies react to calorie deprivation with countermeasures that include metabolic, hormonal and neurological changes that overwhelm willpower

Calorie restriction can lead to slower metabolism, increased hunger hormone (gherlin) and decreased satiety — or ‘feeling full’ — hormone (leptin). You not only feel hungrier, but you’re less likely to feel full or satisfied by what you eat. It tends to increase the mind’s preoccupation with food.

Several times I've gone on a balanced, healthy weight loss diet and exercise plan. Weighed and logged all my food on My Fitness Pal, never once slipped and ate anything sweet or gone over my calorie limit, and exercised six days a week. This plan always works great for me and I lose about 2 pounds a week for the first six months, then 1 pound a week and finally after about a year, I stop losing and begin to regain. Yes. Still eating 1200 calories per day and regaining the weight. Add increased hunger and insomnia. After a few months of regaining, only then, do go off the plan.

I think anyone who thinks I lack discipline or will-power or commitment should try being hungry 24 hours a day for 365 days and then maybe you won't be quite so judgmental and superior.
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I understand you totally Della. Sometimes when you are on a medication it may not make you gain weight but keep you from losing it
no matter what you do and for how long. That happened to me, so I lived it. You have to research a drug so very thoroughly to find
that type of side effect because you won't be told about it. I asked if a med I was taking at the max dose could be cut down as I read
it hinders weight loss. I was told no, I needed that dose, so more or less work harder.

I ended up checking with a Bariatric Clinic and had a consult. They explained what the drugs I was taking was actually doing or not doing.
I was miserable, depressed and embarrassed to go out. I opted for the sugery.
I had to go through 12 weeks of all types of tests, classes, a psych eval. during those 12 weeks of having to be educated about the changes
I was going to undergo I was diagnosed 2-3 weeks before my surgery with new problems: Chronic Renal Disease and Type 2 Diabetes along with my ongoing high cholesterol and BP. I was just before surgery on 8 medications.
I had the surgery and when I was released on day 3 I was down to 2 meds, then 2 weeks later 1 med at lowest dose (the one that
was the culprit )- 100 mgs down to 10mgs.

Went for my checkup with Family Dr and labs done... no diabetes, no renal problems and began losing weight to plan. People say
these surgeries are a quick fix- not true! It did teach me to keep eating right and learn my body and what it needs.
The surgery saved my life and I will never regret it. Post-op was not easy either and it took about 2 months to feel normal and used
to how my body digested certain foods. I have not had any health issues since except when Metamucil clogged up the entrance
to my stomach because I was taking a normal dose and I should have been taking half that.
I was not going to do any more drugs unless I knew long term effects - all of them. I took that surgery seriously as there is no do over.
Did I go to the extreme? Some people think so but I know where I was headed before that and I've had 11 years of no med problems.
The rate I was going I would have been on insulin and on dialysis years ago. I am holding my weight steady finally for the 1st time
in my life.
So yes, I agree with you, there are exceptions but there are also those that could lose weight with life changes, I wasn't one of them.
I have seen many who could lose weight when they really wanted to and do the yoyo thing all their life. Also seen others so
obssesed with staying fit they damaged their body too. People can be very cruel about things they don't understand or experienced.
I simply have a mistrust of what is in medications now and don't think unless a Dr is willing to help their patient use it in a healthy way
it shouldn't be used, and that is constant monitoring.
 
I don't think they should be banned. They have their place if used properly and monitored by a doctor - which they are, since they are prescription only

advertising of them should be - but that is already the case in Australia, no advertising for any prescription medications is allowed
 
astralcat said:
I am not sure if your comments were directed at me specifically, but I will respond. First of all the comment was a general one, not specifically targeting anyone and their methodology in losing weight. Anyone in a weight loss program should consult with a health care professional so he/she can monitor the process safely. Many people skip this advice and go it alone. When on a diet, the body undergoes metabolic changes and a restricted diet and excerise program may need to be adjusted. It was not my intention to appear judgmental or superior in any way and if I seemed so, I sincerely apologize.
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No need to apologize, we just view weight problems differently.

Even while under a doctor's care people can and do fail to keep weight off. Most of the overweight people I know could probably pass a dietician's final exam with no trouble. We've been reading about and researching the problem since we were teens.

An estimated 95% of those who lose weight regain. It can't all be the fault of the dieters no matter how hard we try to find something they have done wrong or failed to do.
 
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