New California Long-gun Legislation
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Butterfly
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No doubt.
fureverywhere
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- Northern NJ, USA
Dang, jus' isn't right, if I can buy ten pistols in a month, they're going to make me wait a whole year to build my rifle collection??!!!
QuickSilver
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Yes.. it will take you one whole year to buy a dozen long guns.... Man..... who in the world wants to wait that long??
The true collector of firearms most often is interested in long guns rather than handguns, with exceptions, of course. I suspect passage of legislation such as that discussed here would not affect such people much. Clubs of various kinds allowing individuals to gather and compare gun stories, proly bring together many individuals seeking some particular rare "piece", which, if found, trades hands along with money, the process undocumented. Many of the true collector pieces are of course jealously handled and guarded, never to be used as a functioning arm again.
An old military collector who set up a large stall at all the big shows in Phoenix gradually became friendly with me, after 3 or 4 meetings at shows. Some of his militaria was not for sale, some requiring a fork-lift to bring in and out of the show. Once, he showed me a most unique rifle, the official issue of the Finnish Military, most strange-looking gun, a Valmet Model 82:
The "furniture" is high-impact plastic, the design known as a "bull-pup" (where that originated, I have no idea), in which shortness overall is achieved by moving the trigger mechanism forward of the operating mechanism. Introduced in Finland in 1982, only a very small number were imported into the U.S., likely less than a thousand or so. He had two; one had been test-fired, the other brand-new in it's original shipping box, Finnish customs markings and all! I bought them both for under a thousand bucks, that being in the late 1980s. No one had any idea what was coming: The Clinton era Crime Bill, which abolished further importation of such "black" weapons. Having established myself as a "collector" with these two weird weapons, the better of realistic vision of such things allowed me to part with them in the mid-90s, completely legally, as they were "grandfathered"under the Bill. The brand new one fetched $3500, sold to a high school math teacher, who had his little boy with him, about 8 or 9; he stated the gun would be locked up for someday when his boy might enjoy ownership of it, but by then be totally unable to obtain one, legally or otherwise!
Such went the Crime Bill era: intensely renewed interest in gun ownership, fueled by the fear of loss of that privilege. In 2003, the renewal requirements for the Bill went unanswered, including the most important provision that after ten years the Bill's impact on crime in the U. S. was to be evaluated and made public. Not even the high-capacity magazine provision was looked into. Gun values then dropped precipitously, sort of like any other kind of "market", stocks, securities, etc. Generally not known, the rich employ investment in firearms quite extensively. imp
An old military collector who set up a large stall at all the big shows in Phoenix gradually became friendly with me, after 3 or 4 meetings at shows. Some of his militaria was not for sale, some requiring a fork-lift to bring in and out of the show. Once, he showed me a most unique rifle, the official issue of the Finnish Military, most strange-looking gun, a Valmet Model 82:
The "furniture" is high-impact plastic, the design known as a "bull-pup" (where that originated, I have no idea), in which shortness overall is achieved by moving the trigger mechanism forward of the operating mechanism. Introduced in Finland in 1982, only a very small number were imported into the U.S., likely less than a thousand or so. He had two; one had been test-fired, the other brand-new in it's original shipping box, Finnish customs markings and all! I bought them both for under a thousand bucks, that being in the late 1980s. No one had any idea what was coming: The Clinton era Crime Bill, which abolished further importation of such "black" weapons. Having established myself as a "collector" with these two weird weapons, the better of realistic vision of such things allowed me to part with them in the mid-90s, completely legally, as they were "grandfathered"under the Bill. The brand new one fetched $3500, sold to a high school math teacher, who had his little boy with him, about 8 or 9; he stated the gun would be locked up for someday when his boy might enjoy ownership of it, but by then be totally unable to obtain one, legally or otherwise!
Such went the Crime Bill era: intensely renewed interest in gun ownership, fueled by the fear of loss of that privilege. In 2003, the renewal requirements for the Bill went unanswered, including the most important provision that after ten years the Bill's impact on crime in the U. S. was to be evaluated and made public. Not even the high-capacity magazine provision was looked into. Gun values then dropped precipitously, sort of like any other kind of "market", stocks, securities, etc. Generally not known, the rich employ investment in firearms quite extensively. imp