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First I want the people in the forum to know that I truly appreciate you all for sharing your opinions and knowledge. If my postings have insulted any of you I apologize.

But now back to the age discrimination subject. Age discrimination in employment act of 1967,specifically states that it protects applicants and employees 40 years of age and older from discrimination on the basis of age in hiring, promotions,discharge, compensation or terms conditions or privileges of employment.

How is it not discrimination to have a senior train or perform duties that are the same as people who are paid more money and then watch themselves be kept with minimum wage and watch the younger person get a raise and a promotion? How is it not discrimination to have a senior person doing manual labor that can affect their health just because they are old is their health no longer important? How is it fair to tell a senior person that they should just be quiet and perform the job duties or go home and live as a low income person and do without things just because they are old? Why are they being asked to accept being kept without promotions and with minimum wage because they are old? Not because they cannot do the job just because they are old? They can be kept awake and not get their eight hours of sleep because their co-worker just had a baby? They have to work the late shift or weekends and holidays because the young people have children? The law says that we do not have to make that sacrifice. Why are we not fighting for our rights? Any one know an attorney who will take a case?
 

I wonder this myself frequently. I think that since we are from the generation who ended a war (Vietnam) just by relentlessly protesting in great numbers, we could achieve the same if we organized ourselves and let our elected officials know in no
uncertain terms that their constituents are not satisfied with the status quo.
 
The age discrimination act succeeded in making employers more stealthy, that is all it did.
 

Good evening to all-
Age Discrim comes in many forms.
When I retired from teaching four years ago, I knew it would be the last public school teaching position I would ever have.
Why?
Because of my years of service and my advanced degrees, I am much higher on the set teacher pay scale than most schools- especially smaller schools, want to pay.
After my last job application a couple of years ago- which thankfully, I did not get- the hireing principal told me that it was simply a matter of money. For what they would have had to pay me, the school could hire two brand-new graduates from Florida State.
So, yes, we get shafted in a great many ways because of our years.
Good evening to all- Ed
 
chic said:
I wonder this myself frequently. I think that since we are from the generation who ended a war (Vietnam) just by relentlessly protesting in great numbers, we could achieve the same if we organized ourselves and let our elected officials know in no
uncertain terms that their constituents are not satisfied with the status quo.
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There are labor unions. They're barely surviving anymore due to a loss of jobs in this country. There has been a push to eliminate unions in this country for years and labor has regressed in many ways. Wages, safety, labor practices but the worst of all--pensions.
 
The age discrimination act succeeded in making employers more stealthy, that is all it did.

I was just considering this the other day in fact. There are jobs out of my reach because I only have a BA. In retrospect I could probably say MSW and no one would be the wiser. I took the social work courses and even an internship. But alas the degree is in English. So 22 and fresh out of college has better qualifications than someone who has been around kids including handicapped ones for thirty years...

My mother taught in a private secretarial school for decades. Just before she retired the computer age attacked. The 22 year olds had the first training on personal computers. Who got the better paying positions ahead of the older instructors? Yup...they "can't discriminate" age, race, gender...but you know they do it every day.
 
Yes the do fur, they've just gotten better at hiding it. At one time, they didn't care. I worked at a company that did not allow women to perform certain jobs--they wouldn't allow us to apply for them. Then came the 70's and things changed. I would not have had a job or a pension today without that change!
 
Another good thing that's happened in all the years since the law was enacted is that there's a tremendous body of court cases and legal precedents in age discrimination cases. Yes, discrimination can be difficult to prove, but not impossible.

The best advice from a legal perspective is to document everything (dates/times, who said what, context, and how it made you feel).

You can find attorney listings for your state by searching for the state's bar association. You should see firm names, contact information, and sometimes areas of law in which they specialize. You can also find out if your state has elder law services and/or low income legal services. For any of the resources, you can contact them to ask if they handle age discrimination cases.

I would not recommend complaining to your company's HR department, but that's just my personal bias.
 
Your talking about discrimination when you are already on the job. I think the OP is talking about not hiring seniors because they don't fit the (possibly manipulated) job description. Much harder to prove actual discrimination there.
 

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