Maomao and Yulin Dog Meat Festival

Debby

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November 25th, 2016 is the beginning of a memorial day to a dog called Maomao who used to live in China. I hope that all the dog lovers here will be motivated to begin putting their names to any petitions that you see, to the Chinese government, to begin protecting dogs and cats specifically and to enacting some actual animal protection laws in that country.

Maomao was a Golden Retriever who was stolen from her family and sold to a restaurant. Only a few hours later, her screams drew a crowd to that place where she was slowly dying. In the interest of not being horrifically graphic, I'll spare you the full description of how her last hour went but suffice it to say that I cannot get it out of my head and my heart is breaking at the thought of her suffering.

Yulin has a dog meat festival every year and both cats and dogs are literally tortured to death. But Chinese animal rights activists, with the support of people all over the world, have been putting enough pressure on the government that they have finally agreed to a first step, banning the slaughter of these hapless creatures in public.

Marc Ching, who lives in California and operates the Animal Hope and Wellness Centre has also made 7 trips to Asian countries, posing as a dog meat buyer and has seen and documented the torture that is done and has even had an opportunity to speak to one or more of your members of Congress with a view to hopefully get your government to also help pressure that government. He has also used the money he has raised to buy out several dog meat farmers and helped them set up non-animal businesses and then he has bulldozed the farms that he bought after rescuing the dogs and cats imprisoned there. Support him and all the others with your love and prayers. http://www.animalhopeandwellness.org

Maomaos Movement is one group who have begun rescuing dogs from the illegal dog thieves and traders and rehoming many of them in Canada and in the United States. So I'm not asking any of you to donate, just sign petitions if you see them. The dogs and cats depend on our love and compassion.
 

It does make your heart break. Then again in "civilized" countries pigs are routinely killed for meat every day. I've read that pigs can be equal if not more intelligent than the average dog. They'll try to socialize with the slaughterhouse workers if given the opportunity. But we sell bull manhood and pig snouts by the bag for our companion animals.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I find it appalling what China does to animals, but America isn't much better. An excellent book on the topic is " Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat" by Hal Herzog.
 

Thank you both for caring. At least in much of the world, there's a pretence at caring about their suffering but in China, not at all. Marc rescued one little dog who'd been boiled alive and had all her hair pulled out by an awful machine, but the vet he took her too euthanized her because she was scalded over her entire body and simply could not have survived. At least she had a few moments in her dying hours where she was surrounded by loving people.

The other thing too, is I have heard that Australia has been talking about exporting dingo's to China for the dog meat trade and Ireland currently allows the export of greyhounds from their racetracks and those dogs are abused and tortured as well. So any petitions against exporting dingo's or any to the government of Ireland to end dogs being sent to China, please sign them!

I get Marc Chings foundation notices on my FB feed and to be honest, I can't imagine how he and the other folks go on day after day with the things that they've seen. I've lost hope in humanity pretty much and waffle back and forth between fearing a nuclear war/devastating astroid strike and wishing it would come and end this all. We need a reset big time.
 
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A different culture entirely. I remember the first time my daughter showed daughter in law her pet rats. In stilted English she explained that in her country rat can be food...especially chubby ones. Tarantulas too.
 
Shalimar said:
Hmmm. Although I abhor this practice, I think that it might be a tad insensitive to bring it to people's attention on American Thanksgiving Day.
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When is a plea for compassion ever insensitive? Besides, I didn't start this Memorial day, it was the AR group who are there in China I believe, and the date they chose is November 25th so I ran with it and led with my heart. My apologies to any who might have been offended, that was not my intention at all.
 
fureverywhere said:
A different culture entirely. I remember the first time my daughter showed daughter in law her pet rats. In stilted English she explained that in her country rat can be food...especially chubby ones. Tarantulas too.
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Yes, you're right, the culture is certainly different. I know there are some who might point to that and argue that it means that everyone else should mind their own business, but I figure it's sort of like that saying 'Your rights end where my face begins' or something along those lines. In this case (in my opinion) 'culture' goes right out the window when it comes to cruelty. Think of the other things that we've learned to not do as we've evolved and now fight and legislate against. FGM for one, bullfighting, dog fighting.........
 
I think Thanksgiving day is a good time to bring up a subject like this.

Animal suffering goes on all year round. And so unnecessary. I'm at a loss as to what I can do.
 
During my close to six year stay in Vietnam (Feb. 1969 through Oct. 1974) at one time I picked up a stray solid black pup and brought him home and had him for aprox. 3 years......he was about the size of a Aussie Shepard and a extremely good watch dog and very smart but he didn't care for being kept inside at night and preferred instead to sleep outside on the front stoop.

Late one night the gal I was with heard the dog barking like hell and then abruptly stop, I grabbed a gun and we both got up and opened the door and saw two Vietnamese teens running away and the dog, still on the front stoop, already had his muzzle and two of his feet tied.......we returned to bed and she explained to me that the Vietnamese that ate dog (not all do) for some reason preferred a black dog over any other color and she was sure that the two teens were going to steal and sell the dog for food.

All was well for for about another two or three months and one morning when we got up the dog was gone.......I put the word out in the village that I'd give a reward for the dogs return but never saw it again.

We were certain that we knew the dogs fate.
 
Kitties said:
I think Thanksgiving day is a good time to bring up a subject like this.

Animal suffering goes on all year round. And so unnecessary. I'm at a loss as to what I can do.
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If you ever see petitions online, sign them. It does make a difference. Here's an example, there's a polar bear named Pizza (stupid name eh?) that has been living in a 600 square foot room in a shopping mall for three years. Because more people are doing online shopping, the owners decided to bring the bear in as an attraction to get people back in, but it's totally unsuitable for her, no outdoors, no sunshine, just a glass wall on one side, some ice thrown in across the floor and fluorescent lighting. Horrible place. And so many people have signed petitions all across the world and so many in China that the owners have agreed to let her go back to the breeding farm (which probably is only slightly better but at least she'll have her mother and father there). The hope is that they will let her stay there forever. So petitions have an affect these days.

And then there's the example of Seaward finally throwing in the towel on breeding orca's and making them do tricks. That's the result of that movie 'Blackfish' and petitions 'coming out the wazoo' and people becoming aware....now if they'll only let the group that has offered to build sea pens for the orca to retire in, get to work and give them a retirement home! Fingers crossed and where do I sign?

Anyway, even signatures help so thank you for caring Kitties.
 
IKE said:
During my close to six year stay in Vietnam (Feb. 1969 through Oct. 1974) at one time I picked up a stray solid black pup and brought him home and had him for aprox. 3 years......he was about the size of a Aussie Shepard and a extremely good watch dog and very smart but he didn't care for being kept inside at night and preferred instead to sleep outside on the front stoop.

Late one night the gal I was with heard the dog barking like hell and then abruptly stop, I grabbed a gun and we both got up and opened the door and saw two Vietnamese teens running away and the dog, still on the front stoop, already had his muzzle and two of his feet tied.......we returned to bed and she explained to me that the Vietnamese that ate dog (not all do) for some reason preferred a black dog over any other color and she was sure that the two teens were going to steal and sell the dog for food.

All was well for for about another two or three months and one morning when we got up the dog was gone.......I put the word out in the village that I'd give a reward for the dogs return but never saw it again.

We were certain that we knew the dogs fate.
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Yes, poor dog, dog theft is very common in all of the Asian countries apparently. Many of the images that I've seen of the dogs stuffed into the cages, are wearing collars so before that, someone loved them.
 
It is an important subject. I have been on Planet Dog for ten years and I would be the first to howl seeing canine abuse. That being said I have a container of leftover salmon, Mac n cheese and beef scraps. All the poor neglected dogs in world and our pups eat better than many humans.
 
I too find this horribly upsetting, but since we're on the subject what about all the other poor animals that are tortured and slaughtered every day --- look at the meat in your fridges and freezers --- cows and piggies and sheeps? A tad hyprocritical to think all animals don't deserve better.
 
Cookie said:
I too find this horribly upsetting, but since we're on the subject what about all the other poor animals that are tortured and slaughtered every day --- look at the meat in your fridges and freezers --- cows and piggies and sheeps? A tad hyprocritical to think all animals don't deserve better.
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Yes, I agree.
 
Cookie said:
I too find this horribly upsetting, but since we're on the subject what about all the other poor animals that are tortured and slaughtered every day --- look at the meat in your fridges and freezers --- cows and piggies and sheeps? A tad hyprocritical to think all animals don't deserve better.
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I agree.
 
I am someone who is involved (albeit to a small extent), in raising animals to be slaughtered for meat. I get really sick when people go 'oooh' and 'ahhhh' at cute little puppies and kittens and call them 'their babies'' etc.... but yet do seem to grasp the concern , hard work and passion that many farmers and breeders put into their work. This is their livelihood , not some fashion statement. It is a hard, 24/7, 365 days a year job and for any decent farmer worth their salt, the welfare of their stock is their primary concern.

Now, let's get this straight, I utterly condemn cruelty to animals , though I don't always jump in feet first and take these emotive reports at face value. The animals I help to raise get the best welfare that we can provide, but we understand very well where they are going to end up.

Right, that's my little rant. If anyone objects to eating meat, then that's fine. For those of us who do enjoy a good steak etc.. then insist that your meat comes from a recognised source and has been raised to a high standard of welfare. It'll taste a lot better too.
 
I would only ask what kind of death do those animals (who are raised 'well') have? Do they slip quietly into that great night or are they terrified and fearful and hurting?

And that's the last question and statement I'm going to post on this thread. My intention was only to encourage folks who might see petitions to help the dogs in China, to not dismiss them as useless but to sign them because they do good eventually. And Falcon and Shalimar, if you think that my being moved by love and grief to start this thread for that purpose is a horrible thing then, well, I have no idea what to say to you.
 
I too will just make a couple of final points on this...
Firstly, let me re-iterate that I am sceptical about this type of second-hand report that deliberately uses highly emotive language to try to stir up support.
Secondly, I am not one for 'anthropomorphism'. How do you or I know what an animal "thinks"? I can only say that in the UK, they are dispatched quickly and humanely.

Perhaps we've been watching too many films like "Babe" or "Charlotte's Web".
 
We don't know what an animal 'thinks' but we do know that they do think and have intelligence and brains, emotions, just like people. Studies have been done and results have found that dogs and pigs are extremely intelligent. That said, why don't we like to eat other humans, particularly little children? Don't you think they would be tender meat and very tasty? But lets put them to work first, maybe doing farm work or picking fruit. And god forbid we treat them with love and kindness.
 
Whoa !.......how'd we get from some countries consuming canines then to eating animals that are actually bred for human consumption and then taking one hell of a giant leap to eating children ?

I guess I must have missed a page or two. :confused:
 

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