Sometime before i pass on

Just throwing this out there...........Dr. Phil say's...

According to Dr. Phil, if men want to be successful in their marriage and family life, they have to change and broaden their definition of what it means to be successful as a man. Being a good provider, protector, leader and teacher is a privilege that comes with responsibilities that many men aren’t aware of.

A Provider

Most men believe that being a good provider means supporting a family financially. It means much more than that. A man should also contribute to the emotional, spiritual, physical and mental well-being of his family. In order to do this, he must recognize that there are other currencies, in addition to money, that need to be provided.

A Protector

This doesn’t mean beating up the guy next door if he insults your wife. It means protecting her self-esteem and self-worth as well as your children’s. It can also mean protecting your way of life and guarding against any threats to the things that you and your family value.

A Leader

Instead of waiting for your wife to take the initiative when you are having problems, take the lead. Get in the game and create what you want in your family instead of whining about your family situation. Marriage is not a 50/50 partnership. It’s a 100/100 partnership. That means you give 100 percent. And remember, you get what you give.

A Teacher

What are you teaching those around you — especially your children — with your behavior? It’s important to provide a good example for your children, loved ones and community with both words and deeds. Set high standards and teach by doing.


Oh, my ! All of the above PLUS what has already been mentioned ? If women are expecting, even hoping for, all of that, no wonder there are so many divorces. I wonder if such a man ever existed ? Kinda makes me glad I'm well out of the game.
 

Does anyone but me thinks Dr. Phil's perfect man sounds like a control freak? :numbness: I find it kind of scary. But I guess that's just me.

Edit: Maybe I just worry about too strong men.
 
I wouldn't go to him for help of any kind. Women seem to be his main target to disparage.
 
I absolutely don't agree with marriage being a 100/100% partnership. Rarely. More often it will be more like 80/20, 60/40, 30/70 .5/99.5.........at any given time.
If I or my husband were expected to give 100% all the time we would have been doomed long ago.
 
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Yes, I know, women, as a general rule, are not ready for sex at the drop of a hat. But is there anything, anything at all, which causes a woman to have a comparable feeling of desire ?

I guess the answer to your question is, "who knows?" Without having been a man I don't have any frame of reference as to what would constitute a "comparable feeling of desire." I believe you are talking about pure lust, a feeling that for me developed as I grew to love my husband.

I don't believe women are as visually stimulated as men, though I really only have my own experience to draw upon. I certainly appreciate an attractive man, but "attractive" is subjective and after all the vast majority of us are ordinary at best. I suppose love and desire go hand-in-hand for me, though I'd not presume to speak for all women. And then there are pheromones. :excitement:
 
I'm not really putting down Dr. Phil, per se. I don't really watch his shows much anymore--prefer Hot Bench. :p I do like the shows where older women (and men) get hooked by a catfish who are actually criminals that pretend to be "in love" while they're slowly stealing their money and nothing anybody says can convince the victims that their long-distance lovers are not real, and then Dr. Phil uses the show's resources to finally convince them. I think that does a good service of making people aware and to be very careful.

And maybe I'm exaggerating in my mind the dangers of a hovering man who in the end takes over your life.
 
I guess the answer to your question is, "who knows?" Without having been a man I don't have any frame of reference as to what would constitute a "comparable feeling of desire." I believe you are talking about pure lust, a feeling that for me developed as I grew to love my husband.

I don't believe women are as visually stimulated as men, though I really only have my own experience to draw upon. I certainly appreciate an attractive man, but "attractive" is subjective and after all the vast majority of us are ordinary at best. I suppose love and desire go hand-in-hand for me, though I'd not presume to speak for all women. And then there are pheromones. :excitement:

I believe that the primary difference between men and women is the amount of testosterone. As a general rule, a man approximately 9 times more testosterone than a woman. It is well established that testosterone is the hormone which serves as the "force" behind the males sex drive.

A comedian once said that, " If a woman can imagine the time when she was most aroused, that is what it is like to be a man ---- when he is not even thinking about it."
 
I believe that the primary difference between men and women is the amount of testosterone. As a general rule, a man approximately 9 times more testosterone than a woman. It is well established that testosterone is the hormone which serves as the "force" behind the males sex drive.

A comedian once said that, " If a woman can imagine the time when she was most aroused, that is what it is like to be a man ---- when he is not even thinking about it."

Well we all know that comedians are the ultimate resource for factual information. :D
 
When it comes to emotionally, women have way more power over men than men have over women. Men are more easily crushed and take rejection worse. Anybody who cares about a brother or other male relatives or friends, knows this. And also if a women had to personally reject someone knows this.
 
While this thread is supposed to be about how women feel, I'd like to share that even an old man like me can still get worked up over Cher.
Especially her last concert tour: Cher: The Farewell Tour. (on DVD). Smokin Hot !

LOL..why be surprised, Cher is beautiful but she's 71 years old...so it's not like you're talking about fancying a 20 year old..
 
I guess all I can go by is what attracted me to my husband. Very handsome. He was bigger than me. I was 5'2 and all of 98 lbs. I felt safe in his arms. He was practical but if he gave gifts they were good quality and romantic because of how well thought out they were.
He was responsible and had goals which he has mostly met. I admire that.
He was very sexual but not sexist. He had no problem with you perusing any task but he did expect you to research and do it right. In other words don't mess up the car engine then bat your baby blues- it won't work. He certainly would have no problem with me making more money. It would make him proud.
I grew up in the north, he grew up in the south but he felt like family. I knew he'd be a good father.
He is Taurus the bull. I'm cancer the crab. Picture them together
. Yes, that's how it is. Snap, snap, snap the claws, bull rears back nervously, finally roars and charges. Crab runs into hole until bull forgets.
The main thing is I knew he loved me as much as I loved him. I'd never want someone who didn't.

He is not dead. Lol. I'm looking back to the first attraction.
For physical "instant" attraction I always love the Latin looks. Dark hair and eyes. Middle Eastern too.
My husband is light and blue eyed. Handsome and familiar.


You've just summed up my husband exactly in those few lines. he's also a Taurean.. Absolutely adept at just about everything he turns his hands too..and everything has to be done to perfection no half-hearted jobs. very patient.. my husband...and handsome , turned a lot of heads when he was younger.. and still some today. He's from the South and I'm from the North.

Unlike you I'm an Aries..so I'm the fire he needs in his belly... and he's the calm waters I need when I'm all fired up.. :D
 
When it comes to emotionally, women have way more power over men than men have over women. Men are more easily crushed and take rejection worse. Anybody who cares about a brother or other male relatives or friends, knows this. And also if a women had to personally reject someone knows this.

Exactly ! Men need a woman's emotional support FAR more than women need men. Thank you, Olivia. We are on the same page.
 

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