After reading the thread on grooming how do you feel about proper etiquette concerning hats?

Ruth n Jersey

Ruth n Jersey

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The thread on grooming made me think about men wearing hats and caps. In recent years I've noticed men don't remove their hats even in restaurants. When I was growing up men took their hats off as soon as they entered a building. My Dad always wore a hat but wouldn't dream of leaving it on in a public place. Most men are wearing caps these days and I've yet to see any of them take one off and some are pretty grubby. I can let it go if they are working and make a quick stop in McDonalds or some fast food place but sitting in a restaurant is another story. And to be fair some women's attire leaves a lot to be desired in restaurants and stores also. How do you feel?
 

I wish it were the same today as it was in the fifties and early sixties. I like the look of women in hats and remember when there were hat stores all over the place. The dirty cap men I see look as if they should be on the prison road gang. Why would they take their hats off when they're around ladies? Most have never met a lady.

I wear a straw cowboy hat around my place. It's rather battered and soiled, but I don't wear it to town. I do have a straw fedora for that which I do keep clean although I need to do it myself. There are a few places in Wyoming that clean straw hats, but I've never seen one here.

This is the era of the slob and slobette.
 
My father wore a hat sometimes, but he would always take it off in a restaurant or when visiting someone. My husband wears a ball cap outdoors in the park and while camping, just for sun protection, but he doesn't wear hats when we eat out at a restaurant, etc. I usually dress up a little bit if we go out to eat somewhere nice, but I dress very casually everyday, jeans or cargo pants with tee shirts. I don't go to stores or anywhere except maybe the gym is sweat pants, and have never been out in my pajamas or slippers, like you see so many these days. :p
 

There was a big controversy at our golf club when the golfers came in to the restaurant and refused to take off their hats.

Management had to back down because the golfers said they would simply not use the restaurant.

Money talks I guess.

I gave my son heck one day for wearing his cap. But then he explained to me that he was going bald and didn't want to show it. I felt bad. I thought about it later and said to myself. It's really not that big a deal is it even though I would never wear a cap at a meal of any kind except grabbing a burger on the street.

Grubby hats are a different breed of cat. At the golf course, they had a dress code. No jeans. And that raised a huge commotion with the younger generation.

I don't think we can impose rules and regulations on the younger generation based on what we did when we were growing up.

One of the younger generation explained to me that his designer jeans were more expensive than my golf slacks.

That's the kind of rationale they use now. And the music is louder and louder so that you can't even carry on a conversation.

But then. Every generation hates the music of the previous generation.
 
Jokingly I told my daughter recently that I was going to wear a pair of new jeans and a sports jacket to her wedding....she nearly had a fit. I guess there's still some standards.
 
James said:
Jokingly I told my daughter recently that I was going to wear a pair of new jeans and a sports jacket to her wedding....she nearly had a fit. I guess there's still some standards.
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Only because you were her dad. I don't think that would apply to the guests.

I haven't worn a sports jacket since I retired. I have a closet full. I used to wear one with a tie every day.
 
If I didn't take my hat off it was knocked off, so removing it was an ingrained habit.

In a similar vein friends would sometimes express surprise when I opened the car door for my wife, but my wife would no more think of opening the door herself (unless, in later life, she was desperate for the bathroom!) than she would appear without earrings.
 
We need "Vets" in the schools to knock some manners
into today's youth!

I see our Government will pay Vets a lot of money if
they go into education as teachers when they leave
the Military.

Mike.
 
Many of the young girls also wear baseball caps with a pony tail sticking out the back and they don't feel the need to remove them. What's good for the goose....just saying.
 
This trend is not just the youngers. I have attended several events where the National Anthem is being played. There are just as many caps remaining on grey heads as any other group.
 
I hate to see people wearing hats in restaurants . Around here it's baseball hats. I'd love to stand up and scream "Take off your damn hats !!!" ... but I know I'd end up on the 6 o'clock news ... :p
 
My grandfather and great grandfather and my paternal grandmother always wore hats... they always removed them when coming into the room..except my granny who would sit in our livingroom when she visited, without her coat..but leave her hat on, with the big hat pins in. ..I can see her in my minds' eye now..

My parents never wore hats..(except my father in his job).. but I don't think I ever saw my mother wear a hat once..

I'm a big fan of hats, winter and summer..different styles for each season, but if I go indoors anywhere ..the hat comes off..
 
They think they're hiding their baldness.

A lady does not remove her hat indoors if it is part of her ensemble.

A gentleman removes his hat indoors, when meeting a lady, or at least "tips" his hat to her. If a gentleman or a lady is in formal military dress uniform they do not remove their hats.

I can't remember about the military in dress uniform removes the hat in church or not.
 
depends

I don't even come with a hat to formal events, dinners

but

I was once asked to put my cap back on
not bald
just askew
from
a cap
 
RadishRose said:
They think they're hiding their baldness.

A lady does not remove her hat indoors if it is part of her ensemble.

A gentleman removes his hat indoors, when meeting a lady, or at least "tips" his hat to her. If a gentleman or a lady is in formal military dress uniform they do not remove their hats.

I can't remember about the military in dress uniform removes the hat in church or not.
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Well pardon me Miss Scarlet, I bow to your superior knowledge ma'am... :D:love_heart:
 
Gary O' said:
depends

I don't even come with a hat to formal events, dinners

but

I was once asked to put my cap back on
not bald
just askew
from
a cap
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I find motorcycle crash helmets are the absolute worse for making the hair look awful, I remember when I had my little motorbikes..didn't matter how much I did my hair before I left, it would look horrendous when I took the lid off...
 
I wonder how hats achieved such ritualistic significance? Both removing them for certain occasions (men indoors, dining with others, hearing the national anthem played), and being required to wear them for others
(religious requirements for some, formal upper class attire at horse races) probably have long historic reasons behind them. They stand for a lot more than just "well, that's how I was brought up, that's what they did in the good old days, etc." I bet an entire sociology book could be filled up with the historic significance of hats.
 
Sunny said:
I wonder how hats achieved such ritualistic significance? Both removing them for certain occasions (men indoors, dining with others, hearing the national anthem played), and being required to wear them for others
(religious requirements for some, formal upper class attire at horse races) probably have long historic reasons behind them. They stand for a lot more than just "well, that's how I was brought up, that's what they did in the good old days, etc." I bet an entire sociology book could be filled up with the historic significance of hats.
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The fur trade in Canada made the country. It was the beaver. Trapped and the pelts sold to England. The pelts were used to make felt used in the top hats. I bet those factories stunk.
 
Mizzkitt said:
Many of the young girls also wear baseball caps with a pony tail sticking out the back and they don't feel the need to remove them. What's good for the goose....just saying.
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I love my baseball caps and wear them all the time. I don't remove them or whatever hat I'm wearing in casual restaurants. Ladies should be able to wear hats if they want to. :sentimental:
 
chic said:
I love my baseball caps and wear them all the time. I don't remove them or whatever hat I'm wearing in casual restaurants. Ladies should be able to wear hats if they want to. :sentimental:
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The rules of etiquette are different for ladies. Aa lady may wear a hat in a restaurant simply because the pins are difficult to place and she would need to use a rest room for several minutes to place her hat on her head. I'm obviously talking about hats of an earlier era when a lady's hat's purpose was purely decorative, but rules of etiquette change (properly) at a glacial pace.

Gentlemen do not wear baseball caps.
 
When in religious school when we went to church we HAD to wear a veil on our heads many moons ago; now they don't any more along with us wearing slacks now, too. Girls were not allowed to wear pants until a certain time. I guess etiquette changes over the courses of generations and thus we have the cap or hat that stays on; I'm okay with it.
 
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