Medical Marijuana and Other Questions About Pot

Yeah, I'm always waiting for the Feds to pull their Prohibition stuff again.

There are several studies that claim that medical pot is actually superior in its benefits to CBD, that Nature intended it to be used as a whole plant, not broken down into its constituent parts.

I'm on the fence about that one.

It wouldn't be hard for them to do, considering ID is required to get the legal pot, and some sort of doctors card for the medical stuff.....both having your address, phone, etc. Bust the pot club, get all the nice convenient records, then start kicking in doors. Frankly, I just now looked up CBD: https://www.medicalmarijuanainc.com/what-is-cbd-hemp-oil/ It seems suspicious to me. As an ex-herbalist, I've tried every herb even remotely connected to pain relief for my headaches, and nothing came close to codeine or a megadose of aspirin. Anyway, if I decide to go back on the pot for insomnia, I'll likely stick with the plain old pot. Not the experimental sort I was when young.
 

It wouldn't be hard for them to do, considering ID is required to get the legal pot, and some sort of doctors card for the medical stuff.....both having your address, phone, etc. Bust the pot club, get all the nice convenient records, then start kicking in doors. Frankly, I just now looked up CBD: https://www.medicalmarijuanainc.com/what-is-cbd-hemp-oil/ It seems suspicious to me. As an ex-herbalist, I've tried every herb even remotely connected to pain relief for my headaches, and nothing came close to codeine or a megadose of aspirin. Anyway, if I decide to go back on the pot for insomnia, I'll likely stick with the plain old pot. Not the experimental sort I was when young.

That was pretty much a spot-on article, at least in my opinion.

I'd be interested to know why you are suspicious of it. It's been proven effective in many, many users.
 
I was suspicious of using it again, but after reading all the “pain-relief” articles about it, definitely not anymore.
Smoking it was a fun thing to do back in the mid 70’s, when I smoked at times, but today, it’s all about “soothing the pain” (for wife and I, anyway).
 
I had posted this review in another thread where a few of us had an ongoing CBD discussion. I wasn't aware of this thread until now, thought my review might be of help to some. My wife and I both have arthritis and tried the CBD for pain relief.

CBD oil drop and balm update:

(Using 500mg strength on both items.)

As of today both the wife and I have stopped using the CBD oil drops. Neither of us have noticed any real upside that warrants us to continue taking them and the bottle is about gone. We both upped our dosage from 1/4 dropper/twice a day to 1/2 dropper/twice a day last week and both had pretty much the same results. Both of us felt out of sorts shortly after taking the first raised dose in the am and even more so in the pm. It's a bit hard to describe but we just didn't feel right, we both had a bit of a mind fog and our bodies didn't feel quite right. My wife had these sensations a bit more intense and longer than I did. I got the brief uptick in energy I have been getting but it faded rather quickly and this disoriented feeling took over. It was well worth the try to see if it worked for us, unfortunately it didn't.

As for the balm, this stuff is the real deal! Every time we've used it on areas of pain it has given us both a high level of relief. We've used it on our backs, shoulders, elbows and feet and it's worked every time. The other day I aggravated the plantar fasciitis in my right foot while walking the dogs, (anyone who has had plantar fasciitis problems knows how painful and constant the pain can be). I put some balm on my foot as soon as I got home and within about 5 minutes the pain was almost completely gone. I put another round of balm on about 15 minutes later and in no time I was up walking around close to pain free. We have ordered two more containers of the balm and plan to keep it on hand at all times in the future. The fact that it is an all natural product puts it at the top of our list for pain relief. Another plus to the balm is the dogs absolutely love it, as soon as they see or smell the balm they are right in front of us trying to lick it off our fingers, lol.
 
Gary,

When using the balm how much do you use, a big glob like pictured below ?

How big is the tin of balm ?

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Ike, I agree with Gary not much of the balm is needed for relief. The tin I purchased was $30 for one ounce, my wife and I made good use of that for over two weeks, used it daily once or twice each. The amount being used in that pic is about $20 worth, lol.
 
That was pretty much a spot-on article, at least in my opinion.

I'd be interested to know why you are suspicious of it. It's been proven effective in many, many users.

Well, my Granny always said that if something sounds too good to be true it usually is. My headaches started around when my voice changed, and since I hit puberty real early, I'd guess that was about age ten or eleven. Saw all sorts of doctors, all of them varying degrees of useless (recall a Neurologist had me going to Biofeedback for awhile!). I started doing pot around age 18 and kept on til about 15 or 20 years ago. Pot was a miracle for the chronic insomnia, and pretty good to eliminate tension and stress, but never good for much else, especially not the headaches. When I became a herbalist, I put a lot of time and effort into finding a treatment. Probably tested around fifty herbs that various sources said was the way to go. None ever panned out. The talking heads blather on, but over the years its all turned out to be just blather, empty promises, and dead ends. I don't know, guess I could at least give it a try. $40 ain't that much to gamble on finding a treatment, but at this point I'm not holding my breath. I've gotten real cynical about this sort of stuff.
 
JimW, can you direct me to your other "thread where a few of us had an ongoing CBD discussion."? Anything you can tell me about this balm that would help me to source it would be appreciated. Brand name? Where its sold? Price? Anything? I figure I might suspend disbelief long enough to give it a try.
 
JimW, can you direct me to your other "thread where a few of us had an ongoing CBD discussion."? Anything you can tell me about this balm that would help me to source it would be appreciated. Brand name? Where its sold? Price? Anything? I figure I might suspend disbelief long enough to give it a try.

Hi Senex, Here's the link to where the discussion about the CBD balm and drops started. The discussion is scattered amongst Gary's awesome pics and tales of living off the grid in the Oregon wilderness. https://www.seniorforums.com/showthread.php/31353-Our-version-of-retirement-Living-a-childhood-dream?p=785001#post785001
I do suggest reading that entire thread from the beginning when you have a chance, the way Gary and his wife are spending their retirement along with Gary's craftsmanship is nothing short of amazing!

Here is the link to the balm we use, you can find the CBD drops on this site as well. I highly recommend the balm and you might have some luck with the drops. We've been using the 500mg strength and it's been working great. Good luck!
https://www.gogreenhemp.com/products/gogreen-hemp-cbd-balm-salve
 
I had posted this review in another thread where a few of us had an ongoing CBD discussion. I wasn't aware of this thread until now, thought my review might be of help to some. My wife and I both have arthritis and tried the CBD for pain relief.

CBD oil drop and balm update:

(Using 500mg strength on both items.)

As of today both the wife and I have stopped using the CBD oil drops. Neither of us have noticed any real upside that warrants us to continue taking them and the bottle is about gone. We both upped our dosage from 1/4 dropper/twice a day to 1/2 dropper/twice a day last week and both had pretty much the same results. Both of us felt out of sorts shortly after taking the first raised dose in the am and even more so in the pm. It's a bit hard to describe but we just didn't feel right, we both had a bit of a mind fog and our bodies didn't feel quite right. My wife had these sensations a bit more intense and longer than I did. I got the brief uptick in energy I have been getting but it faded rather quickly and this disoriented feeling took over. It was well worth the try to see if it worked for us, unfortunately it didn't.

As for the balm, this stuff is the real deal! Every time we've used it on areas of pain it has given us both a high level of relief. We've used it on our backs, shoulders, elbows and feet and it's worked every time. The other day I aggravated the plantar fasciitis in my right foot while walking the dogs, (anyone who has had plantar fasciitis problems knows how painful and constant the pain can be). I put some balm on my foot as soon as I got home and within about 5 minutes the pain was almost completely gone. I put another round of balm on about 15 minutes later and in no time I was up walking around close to pain free. We have ordered two more containers of the balm and plan to keep it on hand at all times in the future. The fact that it is an all natural product puts it at the top of our list for pain relief. Another plus to the balm is the dogs absolutely love it, as soon as they see or smell the balm they are right in front of us trying to lick it off our fingers, lol.

I started looking at Kemp Balm online yesterday and found one that appears good. Will buy the small can and try it. Gets excellent reviews. The product is called Comfort Balm by Restorative Botanicals. Have never used "balm" for arthritis pain before, but will see.

What kind (Brand) did you buy?
 
I started looking at Kemp Balm online yesterday and found one that appears good. Will buy the small can and try it. Gets excellent reviews. The product is called Comfort Balm by Restorative Botanicals. Have never used "balm" for arthritis pain before, but will see.

What kind (Brand) did you buy?

https://www.gogreenhemp.com/products/gogreen-hemp-cbd-balm-salve

You might want to compare the Hemp Oil/CBD amounts in the balm you mentioned with the one I linked. It appears the one I linked has a much higher level of CBD which is what gives you pain relief. Here's the 3rd party test results for the Go green Balm, it claims a total of 21.80mg of CBD. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1...0mg_Test_Results_Balm.pdf?1500956999441678506 The Comfort Balm appears to have only 2mgs of hemp extract listed in their supplement facts. https://restorativebotanicals.com/product/comfort-balm-warming-muscle-joint-salve/
 
https://www.gogreenhemp.com/products/gogreen-hemp-cbd-balm-salve

You might want to compare the Hemp Oil/CBD amounts in the balm you mentioned with the one I linked. It appears the one I linked has a much higher level of CBD which is what gives you pain relief. Here's the 3rd party test results for the Go green Balm, it claims a total of 21.80mg of CBD. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1...0mg_Test_Results_Balm.pdf?1500956999441678506 The Comfort Balm appears to have only 2mgs of hemp extract listed in their supplement facts. https://restorativebotanicals.com/product/comfort-balm-warming-muscle-joint-salve/

Jim, just have to be careful with how these companies list their analysis.

GoGreen lists CBD as mg/g (weight basis), while Comfort Balm lists it as mg/ml (volume basis).

I would trust GoGreen a bit more because they offer the complete analysis.
 
https://www.gogreenhemp.com/products/gogreen-hemp-cbd-balm-salve

You might want to compare the Hemp Oil/CBD amounts in the balm you mentioned with the one I linked. It appears the one I linked has a much higher level of CBD which is what gives you pain relief. Here's the 3rd party test results for the Go green Balm, it claims a total of 21.80mg of CBD. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1...0mg_Test_Results_Balm.pdf?1500956999441678506 The Comfort Balm appears to have only 2mgs of hemp extract listed in their supplement facts. https://restorativebotanicals.com/product/comfort-balm-warming-muscle-joint-salve/

The one you suggested is $10 more, but does have more of the pain relief ingredient than the one I was going to get. I haven't ordered yet, so, will go with the one you suggest. Thanks.
 
Jim, just have to be careful with how these companies list their analysis.

GoGreen lists CBD as mg/g (weight basis), while Comfort Balm lists it as mg/ml (volume basis).

I would trust GoGreen a bit more because they offer the complete analysis.

Good catch Phil. Unless I'm reading this conversion chart wrong (which I very well may be) the two are equal measurements when compared:

How many mg/g in 1 mg/ml? The answer is 1.
We assume you are converting between milligram/gram [water] and milligram/millilitre.
You can view more details on each measurement unit:
mg/g or mg/ml
The SI derived unit for density is the kilogram/cubic meter.
1 kilogram/cubic meter is equal to 1 mg/g, or 1 mg/ml.
Note that rounding errors may occur, so always check the results.
Use this page to learn how to convert between milligrams/gram and milligrams/milliliter.
Type in your own numbers in the form to convert the units!

https://www.convertunits.com/from/21.8mg/g/to/mg/ml

The one you suggested is $10 more, but does have more of the pain relief ingredient than the one I was going to get. I haven't ordered yet, so, will go with the one you suggest. Thanks.

Just didn't want you to get ripped off Rocker, there are a lot of phony Hemp products out there. I can personally attest to the Go Green product.
 
GoGreen offers a 500mg balm for $29.99 as well as a 1000mg for $49.99......I haven't pulled the plug yet but I'll more than likely just go ahead and order the 1000mg.
 
GoGreen offers a 500mg balm for $29.99 as well as a 1000mg for $49.99......I haven't pulled the plug yet but I'll more than likely just go ahead and order the 1000mg.

Wife and I have had great results with the 500mg. I hear the 1000mg balm has a side affect of wanting to live in the woods and talk to the animals. :playful:
 
Going to order the GoGreen 500mg. I trust your (Jim W) Review!

Man, what it takes to find something for chronic arthritis pain! Mine isn’t terribly bad, but does bother me. Wife needs something like this for when her hands get painful. IOW, we both need it!

Have been using Topricin Pain Relief Cream (for arthritis and joint pain), but it just doesn’t last long.

I want something that will help me stop needing ibuprofen so much daily. Don’t take that much, but take enough.

Also have a VA prescription for 50mg Tramadol, to take every other day in the AM. My VA doctor may stop that prescription when I see her in three weeks.
 

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