Interesting court case

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rgp

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on the news....

A husband & wife / parents, filed suit in court to have their 30yr old son ordered to leave their home, by the court.

I'm not taking a position on it at this time, just asking questions.

In this country, we are [too some degree] expected to take care of our aging parents.....why is it then do we not 'expect' our aging parents to take care of us? Even though we may be adults chronologically speaking. I mean after all, none of us ask to be born....why do we as a society say OK, you're 18 or ?..now go live on your own. And yet we scold when these same 18 or so yr old's do not take care of their aging parents.

Now to add to the question...this particular person said that he had remained in his parents home for the purpose of getting his business started / up & running.

So let's say he is a complete success....do we then expect him to use his success & in-fact take care of his parents in the coming years?

Gotta admit, it is at the very least an interesting case.
 

He had been served 6 eviction notices. This afternoon the judge agreed with the parents. He plans to appeal!!! I would have made him leave years ago. Any able bodied kid of mine can stay but he will pay rent, utilities and abide by house rules! If he is ill and needs a place to get better that is one thing but a moocher, no thanks even if he is a relative.
 
terry123 said:
He had been served 6 eviction notices. This afternoon the judge agreed with the parents. He plans to appeal!!! I would have made him leave years ago. Any able bodied kid of mine can stay but he will pay rent, utilities and abide by house rules! If he is ill and needs a place to get better that is one thing but a moocher, no thanks even if he is a relative.
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In the news segment that I saw, he stated that they [parents] were not providing any food , laundry, etc?

OK, now what happens if his business is a true success? He makes plenty of money. Do we [as a society] expect him to care for his parents as the need arises?

Wouldn't it be ironic if the parents needed financial help, due to medical costs , and the best way for him to provide that , would be to move back in?

In essence they are saying , at this time...we don't want you here. Fast forward....we're very ill, and need your help, please come help us.....think about it.

I know of a similar?...situation. An acquaintance had a daughter, he insisted she move out @ [i think] 23 partially due to an unexpected child. So she did, finished her studies & took a job offer [nurse] up north. Now has a good nursing position @ the famed Cleveland Clinic. Making good money. My acquaintance / friend bitched & moaned because she wouldn't come down and care for him, after heart surgery. Sticky situation no?

My acquaintance / friend is financially fine. He had a successful business for years, and sold it for a high dollar figure.
 

I'm surpried the story got so much coverage. Nothing new. Able-bodied lazy, mooching adults who live with their parents becauuse the parents (or other relatives) ALLOW them to. I've known of several cases. In one case I know of the grandmother gives the moocher spending money every month and co-signed for a car, which he crashed. He's a deadbeat dad, got arrested on a drug charge and she bailed him out...….and whines to anyone who will listen.

"Getting his business going"? Pffft.

If the parents really wanted him out he would have been out years ago. I feel no sympathy for people like them.
 
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applecruncher said:
I'm surpried the story got so much coverage. Nothing new. Able-bodied lazy, mooching adults who live with their parents becauuse the parents (or other relatives) ALLOW them to. I've known of several cases. In one case I know of the grandmother gives the moocher spending money every month and co-signed for a car, which he crashed. He's a deadbeat dad, got arrested on a drug charge and she bailed him out...….and whines to anyone who will listen.

"Getting his business going"? Pffft.

If the parent really wanted him out he would have been out years ago. Ifeel no sympathy for people like them.
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I tend to agree...

as for....:"Getting his business going"? Pffft.

Since we don't know the particulars...it could happen was my point.

I'm sure that @ some point people doubted , Gates,Jobs,Bezos,Zuckerberg,....& others.
 
RGP: My answer to your question: There are big differences between throwing out an 18 year old, a 23 year old (who was finishing college) and an able-bodied, non-contributing 30 year old who's had a "poor work history" (the parents' words).

Aging parents who led responsible lives but now need a hand from their kids would be somewhat similar to young adult children being supported though the time it takes to launch their lives and careers. Likewise, spendthrift, unemployed parents who wasted their resources and come begging for their kids to support them in their old age are somewhat similar to mooching 30 year olds who refuse to move their lives forward (and out of their parents' homes).

Kudos to these parents for eventually realizing that enough is enough.

That's how I see it, at least.
 
If deadbeat dad moocher was on the up & up he would be pushing a mop/broom someplace or asking if you want fries with that - at least part-time....while trying to "launch his career".
 
applecruncher said:
I don't think comparing this mooching dead-beat dad to Gates, etc. is valid. In fact that's almost laughable.
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How is it laughable ?...you , nor I have any idea what that that guy is up to in terms of his business....At one time Gates was very likely considered to be ...that geeky kid working on lord only knows what , in his parents garage.......perhaps it is you that is laughable ?
 
StarSong said:
RGP: My answer to your question: There are big differences between throwing out an 18 year old, a 23 year old (who was finishing college) and an able-bodied, non-contributing 30 year old who's had a "poor work history" (the parents' words).

Aging parents who led responsible lives but now need a hand from their kids would be somewhat similar to young adult children being supported though the time it takes to launch their lives and careers. Likewise, spendthrift, unemployed parents who wasted their resources and come begging for their kids to support them in their old age are somewhat similar to mooching 30 year olds who refuse to move their lives forward (and out of their parents' homes).

Kudos to these parents for eventually realizing that enough is enough.

That's how I see it, at least.
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Well, now you're getting my point...where is the line drawn ? and who draws it ?

I hadn't heard of his 'poor work' record...my questions are based on what I did hear..

BTW, I am not agreeing with him & or his parents , just discussing. I feel we may not be hearing all there is to hear / know ?
 
rgp said:
How is it laughable ?...you , nor I have any idea what that that guy is up to in terms of his business....At one time Gates was very likely considered to be ...that geeky kid working on lord only knows what , in his parents garage.......perhaps it is you that is laughable ?
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Okey dokey, rgp. He's on the way to super success. You win. :laugh:
 
This fella also has a lawsuit with Best Buy, his former employer, because he was fired after refusing to report for work on a Saturday.

Our local news reported that he is in the process of filing an appeal to the eviction ruling that was issued the other day.

The judge has requested that social services inspect the home and make a report because he is concerned about the safety and welfare of the parents. I'm thinking that the judge may use the information to issue a restraining order which in effect is an eviction.

You wonder how things get to this point in a families life, very sad.
 
drifter said:
I guess I'm glad the Judge kicked him out. At his age he should act like an adult.
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Agreed...Now, should we expect him to render care / assistance, to his parents in the future...should they need it ?

Again, my point is...as a society we expect these kids/adults to @ some point go out on their own....Then we also expect them to care for their aging parents when the need arises. Just not sure the two go hand-in-hand ?
 
Nobody said anything about expecting this deadbeat dad/moocher to care for his parents, or that they even need or want his assistance...ever. That's just one more thing being pulled out of the air.

Sidestep...diversion.
 
applecruncher said:
Nobody said anything about expecting this deadbeat dad/moocher to care for his parents, or that they even need or want his assistance...ever. That's just one more thing being pulled out of the air.

Sidestep...diversion.
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Wrong.... society does expect it...we hear it all the time. Nothing being pulled out of the air. It is a valid , possible scenario...
 
You're discussing the "what if's" . The fact is , he was raised having everything he ever wanted . Now the parents expect him to be a "grown up". It doesn't work that way . Never has ..... never will .
 
I guess this is going to be one of those aberrations from what society expects. Due to circumstances parents should not/ will not expect help from son; son will not offer help due to those same circumstances.
 

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