Get your flu shot yet?

twinkles said:
i got my flu shot today--i had the flu when i was younger and it left me weak for a month or more
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I too had flu at 18, Asian Flu, and it was bad, but here I am 80 and don't get flu shots in the dark but keep my own immune system in good shape. Too too many don't. I keep Oscillo handy for in case I feel it may come on..works every time for me. No shots for me.
 

Grampa Don said:
I wonder what you would think of this article.

Don
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Don, I have been using homeopathics for many years and two are in my sleep combo. I sleep good due to what I take. MOST of the world but not the U.S. use homeopathics. Pharma will do all in their power to discredit Alternative Holistic remedies due to the Pharma $$$$$$$$$$. I don't trust pharma as far as I can throw them, every drug comes with a possible side effect and I've had some in my life.

And on articles working to discredit alternatives, look at who's getting paid.

Why won't pharma "lords" make drugs that give no side effects...because they need people to take the first drug and then the drug that is recommended to help with the first drug side effects...it's a vicious cycle. Side effect after side effect and more drugs $$$$$$$.

Oscillo has worked for me and I would not be without it.

I trust it and you trust "shots" in the dark.

On Vit C if one gets a bit of loose stool, take a little less. Otherwise Vit C is so valuable for for much and of course my powerful Grape Seed Extract. Take care.


On this subject of choices and thinking back to my own parents who both lived into early and mid 90's, mom was Open to alt med as soon as Prevention magazine came out about 60 yrs ago, and dad has a mind closed tight tight tight. Not open to other than drugs. I find this very true of so many women vs men. But there are exceptions in some men I run into, not many.
 

I'm certainly not defending the pharmaceutical companies. I find their advertising and pricing despicable. And I agree, any drug, even aspirin, has side effects. Most prescriptions don't really cure anything. They just have to show some statistical improvement in symptoms to be approved by the FDA. I would be the last one to try to change your medication. I just thought it was an interesting article.

By the way, I'm 79. I sleep fine and I don't take any pills.

Don
 
Don, we do agree in many ways.

But again, who writes the articles, who gets paid to discredit what they are trying to do.

And you are fortunate to sleep good and no aids, for me everything changed at menopause and arthritis pain advancing. So I found thru my work a combo to give me 8-10 hrs of pretty good sleep.
I'm on another group and sleep is a huge issue for so many.
 
I have been hit with "for real" influenza twice in this lifetime. It was a week of absolute misery both times.

I get my flu shot tomorrow. Even if it's only marginally effective it's a better bet than not getting the vaccine. At least that's how I see it.
(I don't love big pharma by any means, but am also not willing to cut my nose to spite my face.)

Point of fact: the condition of one's immune systems has very little relationship to who gets the flu or how ill that person might become. Indeed, the influenza is noted for felling the most vigorous and healthy among us because of the counter-attacks our immune systems launch against the virus.

If you have any interest in learning how the flu attacks, why those infected feel fine one night and wake up feeling like a truck hit them, and why the 1918 flu was so deadly, I can highly recommend, "The Great Influenza: the Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History" by John M. Barry. There's probably a copy at your local library. It is a spectacularly well researched, fascinating account of how this pandemic unfolded.

After reading it I have never gone through a flu season being armed (pun intended) with a fresh vaccine.
 
StarSong said:
I have been hit with "for real" influenza twice in this lifetime. It was a week of absolute misery both times.

I get my flu shot tomorrow. Even if it's only marginally effective it's a better bet than not getting the vaccine. At least that's how I see it.
(I don't love big pharma by any means, but am also not willing to cut my nose to spite my face.)

Point of fact: the condition of one's immune systems has very little relationship to who gets the flu or how ill that person might become. Indeed, the influenza is noted for felling the most vigorous and healthy among us because of the counter-attacks our immune systems launch against the virus.

If you have any interest in learning how the flu attacks, why those infected feel fine one night and wake up feeling like a truck hit them, and why the 1918 flu was so deadly, I can highly recommend, "The Great Influenza: the Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History" by John M. Barry. There's probably a copy at your local library. It is a spectacularly well researched, fascinating account of how this pandemic unfolded.

After reading it I have never gone through a flu season being armed (pun intended) with a fresh vaccine.
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I'm with you, StarSong :) I remember all too vividly how sick I was and I won't ever let my defenses down again. Besides...I don't pay anything for a flu shot so it's no money out of my pocket.
 
StarSong said:
I have been hit with "for real" influenza twice in this lifetime. It was a week of absolute misery both times.

I get my flu shot tomorrow. Even if it's only marginally effective it's a better bet than not getting the vaccine. At least that's how I see it.
(I don't love big pharma by any means, but am also not willing to cut my nose to spite my face.)

Point of fact: the condition of one's immune systems has very little relationship to who gets the flu or how ill that person might become. Indeed, the influenza is noted for felling the most vigorous and healthy among us because of the counter-attacks our immune systems launch against the virus.

If you have any interest in learning how the flu attacks, why those infected feel fine one night and wake up feeling like a truck hit them, and why the 1918 flu was so deadly, I can highly recommend, "The Great Influenza: the Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History" by John M. Barry. There's probably a copy at your local library. It is a spectacularly well researched, fascinating account of how this pandemic unfolded.

After reading it I have never gone through a flu season being armed (pun intended) with a fresh vaccine.
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My brother just sent me an article about the 1918 influenza outbreak. Young healthy people were hit hardest. I think 20-30 yr range. They should have had better immune systems.
My mother was born in 1919. The story goes that if my grandfather hadn't have gotten the flu (or maybe just because of the outbreak- need to re-read) which prevented him from going to fight the war then my mother might not have been born.
Therefore no hearlady......gasp!
One of my mother's big rules of life was "don't spit". I always thought that was a etiquette thing however it was disease prevention. Very serious in those days and should be now.
 
hearlady said:
My brother just sent me an article about the 1918 influenza outbreak. Young healthy people were hit hardest. I think 20-30 yr range. They should have had better immune systems.
My mother was born in 1919. The story goes that if my grandfather hadn't have gotten the flu (or maybe just because of the outbreak- need to re-read) which prevented him from going to fight the war then my mother might not have been born.
Therefore no hearlady......gasp!
One of my mother's big rules of life was "don't spit". I always thought that was a etiquette thing however it was disease prevention. Very serious in those days and should be now.
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The reason the 20-30 year olds were hit the hardest were BECAUSE of their healthy immune systems. With certain illnesses the body's counter-attack to the virus is what causes (or contributes mightily) to the victim's death.

My grandmother was 17 and nearly died of the flu. The doctors told my great-grandmother that their daughter would either get better or not. There was nothing they could do or recommend beyond than fluids and rest. Obviously she was among the lucky ones who survived.
 
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