New Pope Robert Prevost from USA

David777 said:
When US persons are discussing whatever within a US only audience, to refer to us as "Americans" works well. We citizens have always used the term that way. However today given the Internet and its worldwide exposure to news, that is something that should change within global audiences lest we be increasingly criticized as inconsiderate and arrogant. And that does not mean instead using awkward terms like United Staters". Instead it is easy to slightly modify the term, especially on informal boards like this with say "US Americans.
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Since I started this thread deviation, my objection was not that we and the rest of the world refer to us as Americans. My objection was that Pope Leo was referred to as the first pope from America. When Pope Francis was elected, he was correctly referred to as the first pope from America (South in his case). Both South America and North America are America. That is all.
 

JustDave said:
As for authors having distinct preferences, do you mean distinct as opposing each other, or distinct from the often common usage?
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Oftentimes it's both. I'm not trying to be deliberately vague, it's just a bit hard to explain.
 
Lewkat said:
As soon as I read yesterday morning about the Cardinals grousing about how terrible the food was, I knew it wouldn't be long. And, voilà:D, there I was in the middle of an important interview when the alert of a new Pope had been elected. The stomach knows.
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I was interested to read that they had to avoid being served, for example, roast chicken or ravioli for fear that a note could be concealed in the food.
 
spectratg said:
And that is hubris on our part.
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That's a bit harsh but I do understand that America, or rather The Americas, refers to the land mass of North and South Americas, and that the United States of America is a political structure that unites an area within the continent we know as North America.

However, I don't think it is worth arguing about. We all know what US citizens mean when they use the word America.

Pope Leo XIV is a man of both of The Americas, born of the USA and served as a priest in Peru. Now he is the Bishop of Rome, with responsibility for spiritual leadership of the Roman Catholic Church** across the entire globe. It is an awesome responsibility.

**as well as the Eastern Catholic churches that are in communion with Rome but which have slightly different rites, such as married priests. Examples are Maronite and Ukrainian catholics.
 
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Warrigal said:
I do understand that America, or rather The Americas, refers to the land mass of North and South Americas, and that the United States of America is a political structure that unites an area within the continent we know as North America.

However, I don't think it is worth arguing about. We all know what US citizens mean when they use the word America.
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Precisely.

When I've traveled abroad and been asked where I'm visiting from, I say "Los Angeles."

That prompts people to say things like, "Oh, I'd love to visit America," or "I went to America 20 years ago." It's not just U.S. Americans who refer to the United States as America.
 
There are a few married priests in the Catholic Church. The trick is to become an Episcopal priest. They can marry and have families. Then after an appropriate amount of time ( a decade or more) announce that you have seen the truth and want to convert to the Roman Catholic Religion. The candidate will need a dispensation from Rome regarding the celibacy requirement. Assuming the Roman Catholic church approves, there you go!

I think the Lutherns can also do that.
 
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I've read that in the early days of the RC church they could all get married? - but then the families started getting larger and larger?
 
StarSong said:
Precisely.
That prompts people to say things like, "Oh, I'd love to visit America," or "I went to America 20 years ago." It's not just U.S. Americans who refer to the United States as America.
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One thing to consider is that our full name, United States of America is the only nation I know of that includes the name of the host continent in it's name.
 
Pope's order still mired in secrecy over child @buse

Cardinal Robert Prevost, the new pope and the first U.S. leader of the Catholic Church worldwide, is already being hailed as a breath of fresh air by some.

But the ancient religious order that he’s part of and once led in Chicago and internationally — the Augustinians — is still considered one of the more backward Catholic organizations in terms of transparency and reform when it comes to the decades-old child sex abuse crisis that’s involved children being molested by clergy, and leaders often covering it up.
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Brookswood said:
World wide if somebody is a citizen of the USA, they are called American. I have never heard a person from Chile, Mexico, Panama, Canada, Brazil, etc. call themselves an ’American’.
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Just because you've never heard it doesn't mean it never happens.
 
As a Christian, it bothers me that this whole secrecy about children hasn't been cleared up with new laws set in place. Also, I often wonder why people get so mad about religion & government and yet.... not say much when this particular religion IS a government, country, etc?
 
Brookswood said:
There are a few married priests in the Catholic Church. The trick is to become an Episcopal priest. They can marry and have families. Then after an appropriate amount of time ( a decade or more) announce that you have seen the truth and want to convert to the Roman Catholic Religion. The candidate will need a dispensation from Rome regarding the celibacy requirement. Assuming the Roman Catholic church approves, there you go!

I think the Lutherns can also do that.
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Can you please give an example? Thank you.
 
Brookswood said:
There are a few married priests in the Catholic Church. The trick is to become an Episcopal priest. They can marry and have families. Then after an appropriate amount of time ( a decade or more) announce that you have seen the truth and want to convert to the Roman Catholic Religion. The candidate will need a dispensation from Rome regarding the celibacy requirement. Assuming the Roman Catholic church approves, there you go!

I think the Lutherns can also do that.
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There's no "trick" about it. Most married Roman Catholic priests are widowers who take their faith seriously. The priest who said my mother's funeral Mass is one example. There aren't many.
 

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