How do you feel about men donating their sperm multiple times.?

Lilac said:
I was thinking about what my husband had to go through to have gastric bypass surgery. For 6+ months he had to talk to numerous doctors, dieticians & take psych tests to make sure he was a candidate for this. It wasn't until the last minute they told him he was a candidate & they were going to schedule his surgery. He jumped through the hoops & it was a long road.

I wonder if these sperm banks bother to do any type of a background & psych tests on the donator? God only know what you may end up with & you sure can't send it back telling the bank this "product" is defective.
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I think they do psychological testing, but the question I had was more toward infectious diseases.

I read this: "The donor is tested for HIV and infectious diseases. Then sperm samples are taken, and quarantined for a minimum of six months. Then the donor is retested, and if the second test is negative, the samples can be released for use."
 
Lilac said:
I wonder if these sperm banks bother to do any type of a background & psych tests on the donator? God only know what you may end up with & you sure can't send it back telling the bank this "product" is defective.
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psych tests perhaps for the donor's sake - or more likely some sort of counselling or discussion so they fully understand about child contacting them in adulthood etc
and ruling out obvious medical risk factors like carriers for cystic fibrosis and infectious diseases, as mentioned above

But no different to getting a child natural way - you may end up with a child with a birth defect - but no reason this is any more likely with donor sperm

in Australia there is a limit to how many children one donor can create ( I assume this applies to women donating eggs too) - sure there is remote possibility of unknowingly meeting up with your biological half sibling later - but no more than for adoptions, or children whose fathers are unknown/not told honestly, from natural 'wild oats ' behaviour
I would also assume location of donor would be kept separate from location of reciprient - ie both would not live in same small country town - to further reduce that possibility.
 
oscash said:
I saw an article in our Sunday Telegraph newspaper, and it said that "A donor conceived Australian woman who has 77 confirmed siblings, has called for the urgent creation of a national framework to regulate the fertility industry that allowed her biological father to donate more than 325 times, but files were lost". Just imagine
if she suddenly learned that her husband was in fact her 1/2 brother.?
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Better not to know.
 
January said:
psych tests perhaps for the donor's sake - or more likely some sort of counselling or discussion so they fully understand about child contacting them in adulthood etc
and ruling out obvious medical risk factors like carriers for cystic fibrosis and infectious diseases, as mentioned above

But no different to getting a child natural way - you may end up with a child with a birth defect - but no reason this is any more likely with donor sperm

in Australia there is a limit to how many children one donor can create ( I assume this applies to women donating eggs too) - sure there is remote possibility of unknowingly meeting up with your biological half sibling later - but no more than for adoptions, or children whose fathers are unknown/not told honestly, from natural 'wild oats ' behaviour
I would also assume location of donor would be kept separate from location of reciprient - ie both would not live in same small country town - to further reduce that possibility.
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I'm looking it from a different viewpoint ... not if half-siblings meet up later or if the donor gets a visit (which should be expected), but from a possible mental health problem for the offspring.

Yes, a married couple could have a child with physical/mental problems. But when your getting sperm at a bank, you getting the proverbial
"pig in a poke". Your assuming the bank has done their due diligence as far as screenings, but you may not know what those include like do they include a background check (criminal/financial/mental health) or do they rely on what info the donor gives. In some cases the sperm was from a doctor who worked there was used & not from the donor you thought it was coming from. We really don't know how it's handled.

There is no test for potential mental issues as far as I know. The reason I think of the mental problems is what a couple of ours that we've known for years son went through with a child his wife had before they met. It was the old-fashion sowing wild oats way & I have no idea how long she was with the father.

Long story short, the son wanted to adopt the 5-year-old when out of the blue she started to have serious mental problems. During treatment, they found out the biological father's mom & sister were in a mental facility for the same thing. He also had five other kids by different women & three (the girls) have the same issue.

I believe he knew about the mental issues, but didn't say a word while he was out impregnating females. It sounds like a hereditary issue that appears in the females in the family. I wonder if the two boys can pass this along to their offspring.
 
Lilac said:
Yes, a married couple could have a child with physical/mental problems. But when your getting sperm at a bank, you getting the proverbial
"pig in a poke". Your assuming the bank has done their due diligence as far as screenings, but you may not know what those include like do they include a background check (criminal/financial/mental health) or do they rely on what info the donor gives. In some cases the sperm was from a doctor who worked there was used & not from the donor you thought it was coming from. We really don't know how it's handled.
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Yes I have trust in medical system in Australia and I have trust that they screen for medical issues as far as can reasonably be expected.

Which of course is more than most people do when having a baby - I sure didn't screen my husband for such and nor would anyone be likely to do that unless they knew of a genetic carrier risk like cystic fibrosis or Huntington disease.

No idea why you think they should screen for things like financial background.

Yes there are a few horror stories but, like most such things, they would be few and far between.
 
I remember seeing a movie where the couple were going to get married, but they had to take a medical test beforehand. What would the medical test be for? It seems to be in America only.: Just curious.
 
oscash said:
I remember seeing a movie where the couple were going to get married, but they had to take a medical test beforehand. What would the medical test be for? It seems to be in America only.: Just curious.
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Few U.S. States anymore require blood test screening for certain transmittable diseases, namely VD.
 
January said:
Yes I have trust in medical system in Australia and I have trust that they screen for medical issues as far as can reasonably be expected.

Which of course is more than most people do when having a baby - I sure didn't screen my husband for such and nor would anyone be likely to do that unless they knew of a genetic carrier risk like cystic fibrosis or Huntington disease.

No idea why you think they should screen for things like financial background.

Yes there are a few horror stories but, like most such things, they would be few and far between.
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I just feel all bases should be covered when doing background checks, even financial. I think it shows someone has their head on straight with a good record.
 
Lilac said:
I just feel all bases should be covered when doing background checks, even financial. I think it shows someone has their head on straight with a good record.
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Why?

the man's sperm has to be healthy and not carry higher known genetic risk.

He doesnt have to have a perfect record in his own life - his finances or his level headedness will have no impact on the child created for somebody else
 

How do you feel about men donating their sperm multiple times.?​

don't mind as long as no one is watching - can't stand voyeurism!
 
January said:
Why?

the man's sperm has to be healthy and not carry higher known genetic risk.

He doesnt have to have a perfect record in his own life - his finances or his level headedness will have no impact on the child created for somebody else
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Comes back to mental issues that can be hereditary. Level-headiness & intelligence I believe are traits that can be passed to off spring.

I boarded by horse at a breeding barn for several years & watched the horses there. The owner had top horses that he showed nationwide & stood at stud. He would also stable studs for other owners & one of these animals was crazy as a $hit house rat. The owner kept breeding him & I watched the foals he produced. Spitting physical image along with all of the crazy. You couldn't catch one of these foals in the stall so they had to keep a halter & lead rope on them. After the stud finally tried to attack one of the workers, the owner was told to get the horse out immediately.

Hubby & I was good friends with a husband & wife who breed German Shepherds where we got our dogs from. He would go to Europe & temperament test each animal he bought himself. All had to have titles with the males at Schutzhund level 3 & the females at least Schutzhund level 1, but usual were a level 2. If he had any doubts about the mental capacity of the dogs, he wouldn't have them let alone breed them.

After seeing mental traits being passed on to animal offspring, I believe it's the same for humans.
 
"How do you feel about men donating their sperm multiple times.?"

Well, if men aren't going to do it who will?
 
I have a friend who's very against this and I agree with her reason why. If a man donates and has children all over the place, but perhaps in fairly close proximity to each other just the same, there's a possibility of the half siblings hooking up, not knowing they are related.
 
Lilac said:
Comes back to mental issues that can be hereditary. Level-headiness & intelligence I believe are traits that can be passed to off spring.
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They are traits that are mainly learned behaviour. The family the child is brought up in will play by far the most impact, not whether the sperm donor is financially comfortable.
Totally unrealistic and unnecessary to do back ground checks on donors, beyond basic medical screening.
 
Lilac said:
Comes back to mental issues that can be hereditary. Level-headiness & intelligence I believe are traits that can be passed to off spring.

I boarded by horse at a breeding barn for several years & watched the horses there. The owner had top horses that he showed nationwide & stood at stud. He would also stable studs for other owners & one of these animals was crazy as a $hit house rat. The owner kept breeding him & I watched the foals he produced. Spitting physical image along with all of the crazy. You couldn't catch one of these foals in the stall so they had to keep a halter & lead rope on them. After the stud finally tried to attack one of the workers, the owner was told to get the horse out immediately.

Hubby & I was good friends with a husband & wife who breed German Shepherds where we got our dogs from. He would go to Europe & temperament test each animal he bought himself. All had to have titles with the males at Schutzhund level 3 & the females at least Schutzhund level 1, but usual were a level 2. If he had any doubts about the mental capacity of the dogs, he wouldn't have them let alone breed them.

After seeing mental traits being passed on to animal offspring, I believe it's the same for humans.
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Lilac: Totally agree with what you have said. My old neighbour had a lovely Poodle dog named Rikki. He was a lovely dog, highly intelligent but had a very nasty nature. He attacked her on a number of occasions and when it was time to get a hair trim, the Vet. had to put him to sleep so they could do the job. The Vet said he was "The Runt of the Litter", and it can be hereditary, if it had any offspring..
 
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OneEyedDiva said:
I have a friend who's very against this and I agree with her reason why. If a man donates and has children all over the place, but perhaps in fairly close proximity to each other just the same, there's a possibility of the half siblings hooking up, not knowing they are related.
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This is how I accidentally tagged you in the other thread, it carried over from an unfinished post.

I agree with you and your friend but there was light hearted look at the subject in French Canadian film some time ago.
A guy donated sperm to get out of debt and fathered 500+ kids...
Delivery Man. Delivery Man (film) - Wikipedia
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2387559/
 
Aunt Bea said:
I’ve always felt that if a couple can’t conceive a child it might be best to accept it.

IMO adoption or fostering a child makes more sense.
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Well I imagine people who don't have any fertility issues might think that

Impossible t o adopt babies now and fostering isn't the same as having your own child. If people want their own child and there is a way to do that, I think they have as much right as anyone else to do so.

PS people are not dogs or horses so I think those comparisons are silly.
 
Paulina said:
I think those men are quite rich now. Anything for a buck right?
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Maybe in your country.

Not in Australia - donors of sperm, eggs, blood, plasma etc etc are not paid - they may be reasonably reimbursed for time and out of pocket costs but that's it.
 
January said:
They are traits that are mainly learned behaviour. The family the child is brought up in will play by far the most impact, not whether the sperm donor is financially comfortable.
Totally unrealistic and unnecessary to do back ground checks on donors, beyond basic medical screening.
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It's not about being financially comfortable, it's being able to use & process things in your brain to make decisions.

January said:
Well I imagine people who don't have any fertility issues might think that

Impossible t o adopt babies now and fostering isn't the same as having your own child. If people want their own child and there is a way to do that, I think they have as much right as anyone else to do so.

PS people are not dogs or horses so I think those comparisons are silly.
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We are all biological beings. Take in consideration how many medicines that are used for both 2-legged upright talking animals & the 4-legged ones.

Humans just happen to be higher up on the food chain. No one keeps track of our bloodlines like they do for animals traits passed to offspring. I also refer back to my post #31.
 
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no, it is about donating sperm. (or eggs which women can donate too)

By FAR the biggest predictor of adult behaviour is how a child is brought up ( that goes for dogs too actually)

You just have to be a healthy man with no known major genetic risks.

One anecdote with many factors doesn't change that.
 
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