I Am Going Home.

Kya

Kya

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After spending 3 day in the emergency room, I allowed the staff to convince me that a short term physical therapy rehab center would be ideal. I fell because of a leak in my apartment.

The rehab was to be a place for me to learn some exercises, that would benefit me at home, while the maintenace workers fix my place.

This is my second day in the rehab, I met the Dr and Social Worker and the physical therapist today. I caught the Dr. and the Social Worker in 4 significant lies. Those lies would have changed my life forever had I not paid attention to them. The lies were eating at me all day. I called my insurance to discuss the matter. They told me that it is earily enough for me leave. The longer I stay the more they can justify my staying, if that is their plan.because Because they have not had time to know me they cannot justify me staying.

The reality is, some of these places have nursing homes attached to them. It is well documented that some places, after your short term stay, will justify to the insurance why you need long term care. The old profit over people trick.

Hell no. Im out of here in the morning. I told my insurance what happened and she agreed that I should feel concerned. She assured me there are other alternatives to physical therapy in my network, including, in home physical therapy, a home health aid who is trained in physical therapy. I will opt for one of those. Thank God I did not fracture or break anything from the fall. I only reagitated areas from previous falls. But, The God I serve is merciful to me.

I pray I am wrong about my thoughts of all of this. There is only one way to find out and that is to stay here I dont play Russian Roulette.
I would rather be wrong while Im safe at home, than to be right while being imprisoned. Im going home.
 

Kya said:
After spending 3 day in the emergency room, I allowed the staff to convince me that a short term physical therapy rehab center would be ideal. I fell because of a leak in my apartment.

The rehab was to be a place for me to learn some exercises, that would benefit me at home, while the maintenace workers fix my place.

This is my second day in the rehab, I met the Dr and Social Worker and the physical therapist today. I caught the Dr. and the Social Worker in 4 significant lies. Those lies would have changed my life forever had I not paid attention to them. The lies were eating at me all day. I called my insurance to discuss the matter. They told me that it is earily enough for me leave. The longer I stay the more they can justify my staying, if that is their plan.because Because they have not had time to know me they cannot justify me staying.

The reality is, some of these places have nursing homes attached to them. It is well documented that some places, after your short term stay, will justify to the insurance why you need long term care. The old profit over people trick.

Hell no. Im out of here in the morning. I told my insurance what happened and she agreed that I should feel concerned. She assured me there are other alternatives to physical therapy in my network, including, in home physical therapy, a home health aid who is trained in physical therapy. I will opt for one of those. Thank God I did not fracture or break anything from the fall. I only reagitated areas from previous falls. But, The God I serve is merciful to me.

I pray I am wrong about my thoughts of all of this. There is only one way to find out and that is to stay here I dont play Russian Roulette.
I would rather be wrong while Im safe at home, than to be right while being imprisoned. Im going home.
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I think you’re right to be concerned. All medical institutions are influenced by financial incentives when making their recommendations. Hope you’re back in action again real soon.
 
PenelopePlum said:
I think you’re right to be concerned. All medical institutions are influenced by financial incentives when making their recommendations. Hope you’re back in action again real
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Could you elaborate what sorts of lies you're talking about?

My wife has been home from a skilled nursing and rehab facility for about a month after a 2 month long stay. This was to further her recovery from a month long stay in the hospital.

She was always treated with utmost consideration, though it wasn't perfect, the facility was always trying to do the very best with what they had for every patient that was there. I know there are more than one of these facilities, but I don't know if they're operated a for profit, or run by a non profit. Maybe, she was just lucky?

The largest limitation was their budget, only so many staff and so many patients. If anything in her case they were trying to get her to be able to return home as soon as possible, they had people still in hospital that would be coming in soon.

I hope you have a speedy full recovery.
 
Kya said:
After spending 3 day in the emergency room, I allowed the staff to convince me that a short term physical therapy rehab center would be ideal. I fell because of a leak in my apartment.

Because they have not had time to know me they cannot justify me staying.



I would rather be wrong while Im safe at home, than to be right while being imprisoned. Im going home.
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Kya, you can walk out of any hospital, rehab, or nursing home at any time. I walked out of a nursing home. That wasn't the best idea I ever had, but I did it. Usually when a bunch of people are telling you it's not a good idea, it probably isn't. But it's your call.
 
I was in the emergency room here for 3 days last month... it's called Accident & Emergency in the UK.. but this was a seperate department from the run of the mill A&E... called Accident & Emergency Resus...

There patients have a bed immediately as they're brought in by ambulance... unlike the Main A&E area where people are often kept on trolleys in the corridors waiting for a bed..

I'd had a serious accident where my car had been hit with me in it driving at 40mph and the car overturned on it's roof 3 times...so I was not well to say the least..

However after 3 days I'd had enough in there... I just wanted to go home.. the actual plastic surgeons who'd worked on me just hours after the accident, told the nursing staff that I could keep my bed for another few days as is necessary, and hospital beds are so scarce in the UK, you have to be quite poorly for this to be allowed...... but I wanted out.. and so I did without any fanfare or argument .. and they arranged for district nurses to come and visit me several times a week.. that was 6 weeks ago.... and the nurses are now reduced to just once a week from this week, because I'm improving so well

I'm still pleased I came home... and didn't stay in hospital..
 
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GoodEnuff said:
You were in the emergency room for three days?? That alone is not a good sign.

I, too, would be interested in what lies you were fed. And good for you in calling your insurance company.
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Patients can often be kept in the emergency room for several days as there isn't any available rooms with the necessary equipment , such as and ICU, available--so it's to provide the best patient care. Can't say that's always true, but to my limited knowledge that's what it has been.
 
I was in the emergency room for two full days a couple of years ago. I had been completely admitted to the hospital, but there were just no rooms available during my stay.

It turned out rather interesting, though, as I got to see how ERs work up close and personal.

On the other hand, when I was taken by ambulance to the hospital three weeks ago, I was soon sent to a regular room upstairs, but not "admitted", just "held for observation" as soon as they ruled out a heart attack. I was there for two days.
 
Sometimes rehab facilities in the US will try and keep people for 21 days because Medicare will pay for that long. I had a friend that happened to when he went to one after a serious illness.

He was already in an independent living apartment, and I had arranged with the facility for him to be transferred to an assisted living apartment. It would take a week to do this, and then he would be able to return to that apartment because he would have all the assistance he needed

The doctor did not want him to leave and said he needed to stay the 21 days. I explained to the doctor that he was going to assisted living and I literally lived five minutes away, and if there were any problems, I could be at the facility quickly as I had done many times in the past.

The reason we could not just walk out was because the rehab facility can refuse to release the patient’s medication if they are leaving against medical advice. The hospital had sent medication to the rehab facility and we needed it.

I finally told the doctor that his brother was a lawyer and I had him on speed dial and I would call him if necessary. That did the trick and they eventually released him, but they made us wait for hours getting the medication ready.

During that time they tried to talk my friend and I into staying and the doctor said we were making a huge mistake and he was going to end up back there in that rehab facility. The rehab facility was terrible and I told him that my friend would never step across that threshold again. I never intend to go to one of those places if I need to recover from any type of illness if I can possibly help it.

My mother-in-law went to one at age 67 after being in intensive care and not conscious for a month. after about a week, she didn’t feel well at all, and she and I kept telling the facility that she didn’t feel good. It took them a week to do her bloodwork and what they found was that she had a massive infection and when they went into her room to transfer her to the hospital, she was dead. That facility killed her with negligence.
 
Flarbalard said:
Patients can often be kept in the emergency room for several days as there isn't any available rooms with the necessary equipment , such as and ICU, available--so it's to provide the best patient care. Can't say that's always true, but to my limited knowledge that's what it has been.
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I worked in the Surgical and Trauma ICU for seven years in a Level One Trauma Center. We accepted all serious traumas from a large geographic area. The ER was always busy. IF there was no bed open in the ER, we would shut down to trauma and ambulances/helicopters, etc., would be diverted to another hospital, sometimes a much longer time to get there. If we shut down more than a certain number of times in a year, we would lose the Level One certification. It was a Very Big Deal!

There were many times when we had to move patients out of the ICU to make room for a patient coming up from the ER, to make room in the ER for a patient coming in an ambulance or helicopter. It was always musical beds. NObody stayed in the ER for very long; if there was no bed available, maybe for a day or so, but then we would have had to shut down. It was tough.

And @hollydolly, I know what you are experiencing. Seen much of that.

Here's a story for ya...do you all know that leeches are still sometimes used? Usually by the plastic surgery teams when they do a muscle/skin graft. Leech spit is an anticoagulant and the leeches would actually draw blood into areas where it was really needed. I still chuckle when I think of that. I was one of the very few nurses who would do it -- reach into a container full of leeches, grab one of those slippery boogers, and place it on the patient's wound. Had to count them when they were placed, usually five or six, then watch closely for about fifteen minutes till they had their fill and dropped off. Then count them again to make sure none got away.

They could be used only once (I can't believe I'm telling you guys this, it is true, hand on heart). Then they would be dropped into a container of saline (maybe it was alcohol, I may be misremembering), where they would actually explode and die. They used to put student nurses and medical students with me when that was going on. One of the student nurses had to sit down from getting light headed. It was sorta fun, in a sick way I suppose. The stories I could tell...

Okay, back to the original topic. Sorry for the detour.
 
Flarbalard said:
Could you elaborate what sorts of lies you're talking about?

My wife has been home from a skilled nursing and rehab facility for about a month after a 2 month long stay. This was to further her recovery from a month long stay in the hospital.

She was always treated with utmost consideration, though it wasn't perfect, the facility was always trying to do the very best with what they had for every patient that was there. I know there are more than one of these facilities, but I don't know if they're operated a for profit, or run by a non profit. Maybe, she was just lucky?

The largest limitation was their budget, only so many staff and so many patients. If anything in her case they were trying to get her to be able to return home as soon as possible, they had people still in hospital that would be coming in soon.

I hope you have a
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Warrigal said:
If it smells dodgy, it probably is. I would follow my gut instincts too if I suspected a hidden agenda.
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Yes, I came home yesterday after a nurse awakened me at 4am to take a medication I've never seen before. They said it was ordered for heartburn. I never complained of heartburn. They lied and said if I sign myself out AMA, my insurance will not pay for physical therapy again. I had my own meds in my purse, they refused to let me take it. They wanted me to take what the prescribed. Scary.
 
@Kya,

Thanks for answering, because it really isn't any of my business. Could the heartburn meds have any other use? The reason I say that is my wife was prescribed certain meds and the listed reasons weren't anything she had, but they were prescribed to increase her appetite, which was a a secondary "benefit". I have no training in this area so I'm going on what I'm told. The fact that insurance may or may not cover something really depends on if the person telling you that really knows, or just is mistaken. I don't know.

All I know now is my wife is home doing quite well and putting up the the major Pain In Her Life, which is me.

I hope for you the best of out comes.

F.
 

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