“Allen v. Farrow” a HBO documentary.

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Mia Farrow took much convincing to appear in HBO's Allen v. Farrow. The four-part docuseries, which aired its third episode Sunday night, features the actress and mother of 14 speaking publicly for the first time in decades about her former partner and collaborator, disgraced filmmaker Woody Allen, and the sexual abuse allegations that have long been leveled at him by daughter Dylan Farrow, who appears along with her in the documentary..............

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...en-mia-farrow-custody-case-and-investigations

Just watched the third episode of this fascinating 4 part series and hope the final will leave no doubt as to Woody Allen’s guilt. Much respect to Mia Farrow who has been portrayed as a neurotic woman with serious mental health issues, but thanks to the documentary, we now know her as a warm, wonderful human being and devoted mother. I searched to find the previous post about this but came up no matches found.
 

I've found this documentary to be very interesting, especially the 3rd episode. In my opinion Mia Farrow has received alot of unfair criticism. She looks to be a very good mother to me. Critics keep pointing out that she's enraged at Woody Allen. I wonder what parent (male or female) wouldn't be enraged to find explicit nude photos of their young daughter taken by a 55 year old man. And it gets worse from there.
 
jalou65 said:
I've found this documentary to be very interesting, especially the 3rd episode. In my opinion Mia Farrow has received alot of unfair criticism. She looks to be a very good mother to me. Critics keep pointing out that she's enraged at Woody Allen. I wonder what parent (male or female) wouldn't be enraged to find explicit nude photos of their young daughter taken by a 55 year old man. And it gets worse from there.
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Not just any 55 year old man either , but to all intents and purposes the girls' adopted father who raised her
 

I agree, Mia has received a lot of unfair criticism about this whole issue. Imagine how infuriating it must be to have your child sexually abused, to have your ex-boyfriend marry your daughter, and then have him (pretty convincingly) accuse you of being nuts and making it up. (The part about Dylan, anyway.)

Woody was successful at doing this for a long time, because this is not just any old sexual predator, it's Woody Allen. He is brilliant, dodgy, clever at changing the facts to protect himself, and I think it's pretty obvious by now that he's been lying. Mia deserves a lot of credit for taking him on.

I do think she's a bit wacko herself; who adopts 14 children? How could anyone adequately nurture and protect that many kids, no matter how well-meaning they are? But that still doesn't mean she's lying about Woody, who's been very good at covering his tracks all these years.

My opinion may change after the 4th episode, but I don't think it will.
 
I thought Soon Yi was 21 when those photos were made? Not exactly child porn, but creepy none the less.

"In the first episode of HBO’s docuseries, Allen v. Farrow, the 76-year-old recalled the January 1992 day she found naked Polaroid pics of Soon-Yi Previn in the director’s apartment. Soon-Yi was 21 at the time. Woody, then 56, was the father of three of Mia’s children."
 
The filmmakers said their requests for an interview with Allen or Previn were met with silence.

"But it's an open invitation," Ziering said. "I'm sure HBO would do a fifth episode so Woody is welcome to talk to us."
 
OK, now that I've watched the 4th episode, I'm curious to know if anyone else has watched the whole series and has any opinions about this.

In the last episode, Woody does get a little bit to say, but it's probably all footage from previous news programs about this. He refused to take part in this documentary per se. He looks very innocent, and would be pretty convincing if it were not for all the evidence against him. I found Dylan even more convincing.

For one thing, as a 7-year-old, she described sexual practices that he forced on her that no 7-year-old would know about.

For another, there were several witnesses, including one woman, I think a baby sitter, who was taking care of some of the kids (they used several sitters) while Mia was out doing some errands, and Dylan suddenly went missing. She found Dylan and Woody in the attic, in a compromising activity.

And Woody says that Dylan's story about him making her lie down on the floor and play with the model train set was totally false; they never even had model trains. But one of the detectives who investigated this case says he saw the model trains in the attic.

The prosecutor appeared in this segment, profusely apologizing to the adult Dylan for not prosecuting the case. He says he thought Dylan was too fragile to survive having to testify. (Possibly true; she looks pretty fragile even now, after many years of therapy).

But putting all of this together, I tend to believe the Mia/Dylan story a lot more than I believe Woody. Too bad; I used to be a fan of his.
 
I watched all 4 episodes and ended up believing Dylan. It's sad to think she's lived with this all these years while watching him get awards and all sorts of praise.
 
I believe Dylan and have heaps of respect for Mia who was obviously a wonderful mother to all those kids, and much maligned by Woody, so sad to see Moses turn his back on her, she didn't deserve that. I hope there will be another episode which finds Allen guilty, in handcuffs.
 
Did you ever watch his movies, Pepper? I loved his earlier ones, especially Annie Hall. He got tiresome later in life, and I didn't even bother watching any more of his movies.

But one interesting theme that keeps recurring in a lot of them is the older man/ younger woman (girl?) romance. And look at the age difference between him and Soon Yi. I think all that makes Dylan's case more convincing.

An interesting but sickening story. Amazingly, Dylan recovered enough to marry a decent, loving man and to have children of her own, and is apparently happy now. But she still looks like a wounded animal when asked to talk about the damage Woody inflicted on her.
 
I think they are all screwy and just looking to cash in on something that happened years ago. Yawn.

As for the "younger woman/older man" movie theme, that has been going on since movies were invented. Look at the old '40s and '50s films... old, stodgy leading man and 20 year old leading lady was the norm.
 
C'est Moi, the "screwy" part I can agree with. But I don't think anyone in this family (or ex-family) is "cashing in." The series was produced as a TV miniseries and written and directed by other people; Mia and Dylan seem to desperately want to make their story heard. Well, imagine how you would feel if you discovered that your boyfriend was sexually abusing your (and his) 7-year-old daughter, then he marries another daughter of yours, who is of legal age but just barely, and then for years afterward calls you a liar who made the whole thing up about the 7-year-old. And the kid grows up to be obviously permanently traumatized. Why the yawn? Do you think it doesn't matter if it took place in the past, rather than last week?

I think Mia just wanted to clear her name and get the truth out there. Dylan also. The case was never prosecuted, so Mia, Dylan, and most of the rest of the family feel that Woody rightfully should be in prison, not receiving Golden Globe awards.

The way it looks to me, this is about ego and truth, and exposes a man who is almost certainly a pedophile who abused his own kid for years. I don't think money has anything to do with it.
 
I haven't seen this documentary, but way back, I do remember Allen being a self described sex nut. This was long before he knew Farrow. He'd been in therapy for a very long time, so nothing in this case about what I've read surprised me at all.
 
I think Woody killed her career. She says he told her she'll never work in this country again. I don't know how he managed that.

She works for some charitable foundation, dealing with world hunger, mainly in Africa.
 
This documentary shows Mia to be a generous, kind woman who has suffered so much at the hands of Woody Allen, she didn't deserve it IMO.

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Farrow and Sinatra’s romance started like so many other Hollywood romances. The pair met on the set of a movie. While filming Von Ryan’s Express, the couple fell for each other. Sinatra was nearing 50 and had already been married twice before, including to starlet Ava Gardner. Farrow was a 19-year-old virgin who made a name for herself in Hollywood after spending a few years modelling.

Sinatra died in 1998, 30 years after he and Farrow parted ways. Sinatra spent more than 20 years with his fourth wife, Barbara Sinatra. Still, rumors about the friendship, and possible love affair, that Sinatra and Farrow shared after their divorce persist. It’s rumoured that Ronan Farrow, Farrow’s son with Allen, might actually be Sinatra’s biological child. Farrow hasn’t exactly denied it, and the resemblance is uncanny.

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https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/why-did-frank-sinatra-and-mia-farrow-divorce.html/
 
Sunny said:
C'est Moi, the "screwy" part I can agree with. But I don't think anyone in this family (or ex-family) is "cashing in." The series was produced as a TV miniseries and written and directed by other people; Mia and Dylan seem to desperately want to make their story heard. Well, imagine how you would feel if you discovered that your boyfriend was sexually abusing your (and his) 7-year-old daughter, then he marries another daughter of yours, who is of legal age but just barely, and then for years afterward calls you a liar who made the whole thing up about the 7-year-old. And the kid grows up to be obviously permanently traumatized. Why the yawn? Do you think it doesn't matter if it took place in the past, rather than last week?

I think Mia just wanted to clear her name and get the truth out there. Dylan also. The case was never prosecuted, so Mia, Dylan, and most of the rest of the family feel that Woody rightfully should be in prison, not receiving Golden Globe awards.

The way it looks to me, this is about ego and truth, and exposes a man who is almost certainly a pedophile who abused his own kid for years. I don't think money has anything to do with it.
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Yawn because they all sound like nutcase liars, including Mia and Dylan. More dirty laundry that may or may not have ANY basis in fact, just National Enquirer fodder. Enjoy.
 
Yes, Sunny, I loved Annie Hall and Woody's early movies. Was never a fan of Mia's. I recently watched a newer movie, a Coney Island one. Boring. Annie Hall is one of the great movies. La de da.
 
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