10 year olds may have participated in mob attack/ransacking of Philadelphia convenience store

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WhatInThe

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10 year olds may have participated in a 100 person mob attack & ransacking of a Philadelphia convenience store. Adults upwards of 30 years old also involved. Robberies up 40% in the city this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ob-100-looters-stormed-Philadelphia-WaWa.html

Also if one watches/listens to one of the videos online a customer asks an employee if they are going to make her a sandwich as stuff is flying/being tossed around in the mayhem.
 

OMG, I saw a blip of this last evening. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I wonder how this is going to end. They will have walk up convenience stores where you request your items and pay through a window if this keeps up. '[;ppp <--- A tabby walks across a laptop.
 
I imagine that if this kind of behavior keeps up, stores in certain areas of town will simply close down and leave unruly people no where to attack.
It is quite impossible for the police to be everywhere at once. Nothing short of a full, ultra heavy military presence could have any impact.
 
Whatin The,
You have read my post and it seems you do not approve. If so, what would you do if YOU were in power ? Hmm?
 
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Whatin The,
You have read my post and it seems you do not approve. If so, what would you do if YOU were in power ? Hmm?
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No it's something to think about with big city crime in particular. But it will never happen in the US. By law the US military isn't supposed to be involved in civilian law enforcement. The public has complained the police have too much military equipment as is.

Although these mobs do pose a riot scenario. Cities will have to call in more local departments and agencies like the state police or sheriff's departments. And these mayors would have to request assistance. Pressure would have to be put on the mayors and local politicians to call for help.

And juveniles need to be called out on small crimes like loitering, littering, under age smoking anything. Personally jr and high schools in particular should have mandatory community service programs including going into neighborhoods to pick up trash and clean up graffiti. Maybe if the juveniles see the consequences of the mess they and their peers make they wouldn't be so anxious to participate or be ok with it.
 
There's no doubt that working in a convenience store is a risky job. Most of them are open all night, and there's only one person on duty. God only knows what kind of wacko will walk in and start looting or shooting.

@WhatInThe, you're right, there should be consequences for young people who commit these types of crimes. I think that going into it, they already know that if they're caught, not much will come of it but a slap on the wrist.

Bella ✌️
 
WhatInThe said:
No it's something to think about with big city crime in particular. But it will never happen in the US. By law the US military isn't supposed to be involved in civilian law enforcement. The public has complained the police have too much military equipment as is.

Although these mobs do pose a riot scenario. Cities will have to call in more local departments and agencies like the state police or sheriff's departments. And these mayors would have to request assistance. Pressure would have to be put on the mayors and local politicians to call for help.

And juveniles need to be called out on small crimes like loitering, littering, under age smoking anything. Personally jr and high schools in particular should have mandatory community service programs including going into neighborhoods to pick up trash and clean up graffiti. Maybe if the juveniles see the consequences of the mess they and their peers make they wouldn't be so anxious to participate or be ok with it.
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Yes, you are correct about military can not be involved in civilian law enforcement, under the Posse Comitatus Act. However, there are a few exceptions. The National guard CAN become involved if the state's Governor calls them out.
It seems to me that IF they were merely present, that alone might have an impact on gangs.

Going off thread a bit, IMO, it is pasted time for the National Guard to routinely patrol our Southern borders. Moreover, it wouldn't cost the taxpayers much, if anything, since we already pay them.
 
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People have figured out that the only thing between them and everything in a store is one or two unarmed clerks. Every item is conveniently placed on a shelf for the taking. That is the modern store design's Achilles heel. Stores rely on their customers' honesty, and the fear of being caught, and punished. But, let's face it, not one of those 100 store thieves will ever be charged,
 
WhatInThe said:
And juveniles need to be called out on small crimes like loitering, littering, under age smoking anything. Personally jr and high schools in particular should have mandatory community service programs including going into neighborhoods to pick up trash and clean up graffiti. Maybe if the juveniles see the consequences of the mess they and their peers make they wouldn't be so anxious to participate or be ok with it.
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And there you have one of my "beefs"- the trend of referring to minors as 'children,' as if they're in no way responsible for their actions. Anybody can make an honest mistake, but cases I've seen in recent years are far from mistakes- vicious, violent crimes, including murder.
 
JaniceM said:
And there you have one of my "beefs"- the trend of referring to minors as 'children,' as if they're in no way responsible for their actions. Anybody can make an honest mistake, but cases I've seen in recent years are far from mistakes- vicious, violent crimes, including murder.
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As brazen as they were they also knew it was wrong because they didn't hang around and were in a hurry. Also a mob. Mobs move fast and act on impulse. Why did they have the impulse to ransack/loot that store-prices too high, they weren't hired, messed up an order?
 
JaniceM said:
Some do things they know are wrong just because they can.
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Yup. Not every criminal act is driven by politics, racism, religion, finance etc it's a crime committed by a criminal. Many criminals simply don't bother to control their impulses and urges.

What is bad here they say there were adults around 30 years old in that mob so what kind of message does that send to the youth.
 
How about this.........You want to enter my store "? First hand over a photo ID card that identifies YOU. THEN you can come in and shop, BUT the doors stay locked, until you have paid for the goods you bought . Then you leave through the "man trap double door exit system ". The first exit door opens by remote release by the store security officer, then once the person is in the man trap, the second door opens, and the first door locks again. That controls the exit doors. JimB.
 
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How about this.........You want to enter my store "? First hand over a photo ID card that identifies YOU. THEN you can come in and shop, BUT the doors stay locked, until you have paid for the goods you bought . Then you leave through the "man trap double door exit system ". The first exit door opens by remote release by the store security officer, then once the person is in the man trap, the second door opens, and the first door locks again. That controls the exit doors. JimB.
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The way things are going, that wouldn't be too far off.
 
There is a certain political element that has taken a soft on crime stance including the DA of Philadelphia.

Lawrence Samuel Krasner (born March 30, 1961) is an American lawyer who is the 26th district attorney of Philadelphia. Elected to the position in 2017, Krasner, a progressive, campaigned on a platform to reform elements of the criminal justice system, including to reduce incarceration.
 
Chet said:
There is a certain political element that has taken a soft on crime stance including the DA of Philadelphia.

Lawrence Samuel Krasner (born March 30, 1961) is an American lawyer who is the 26th district attorney of Philadelphia. Elected to the position in 2017, Krasner, a progressive, campaigned on a platform to reform elements of the criminal justice system, including to reduce incarceration.
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Chet. Here in Canada the Crown prosecutors are NOT elected, they are appointed by the Attorney General of the Province, so their ability as trial lawyers is what matters. None of them keep a win/lose chart, and they cannot express a opinion on political affairs in public. AS a result we don't have the kind of problem you mentioned . JimB.
 

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