300 Bodies in Mass Grave

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Sorry to post about something so gruesome and frankly, sad. You know, we read about practices from hundreds of years ago and sometimes lower our heads in shame - but this! 1980 doesn't seem so distant to me, and the very fact it was all built on lies which will now no doubt resurface suffering for others, it's truly tragic.

SOURCE: Royton Cemetery mass grave: Babies and children among 300 bodies found

A mass grave containing more than 300 bodies, including babies and children, has been uncovered.

An unmarked burial site at Royton Cemetery in Oldham contained 145 stillborn children, 128 babies and young children and 29 adults, local councillors said.

The discovery of the grave, which is about 12 ft (3.6m) by 12ft, was made by a woman from Royton while she was searching for the last resting place of her twin brothers, who died in 1962.

Councillors Maggie Hurley and Jade Hughes said it was a "heartbreaking revelation" and have called for a memorial to be built for all those buried there.

The woman told councillors, who assisted in her search, that her parents had never been able to say goodbye to her twin brothers.

One of them had been stillborn and the other had died within five hours of birth, she said.

Before the 1980s, stillborn babies were taken away from families who were not given any details of what happened to their babies or where they were buried.

Medical staff would tell bereaved parents their children would be buried alongside "a nice person" who was being buried that same day – often without giving them the opportunity to say goodbye.


Instead, the babies were interred in mass graves.

In a statement released by the Royton Independents, councillors Ms Hurley and Ms Hughes wrote they had been "profoundly affected" by the "heartbreaking revelation" of the mass grave being found.
 


Some things are beyond sad, aren't they? It's the dishonesty of it. Other than, perhaps, deaths in war or during a pandemic, I struggle to imagine why a country like the UK should be using mass graves. Let alone mass graves that aren't marked. Since this was policy, you have to assume there are such sites in other parts of the UK. It's just terrible.
 
Some things are beyond sad, aren't they? It's the dishonesty of it. Other than, perhaps, deaths in war or during a pandemic, I struggle to imagine why a country like the UK should be using mass graves. Let alone mass graves that aren't marked. Since this was policy, you have to assume there are such sites in other parts of the UK. It's just terrible.
I don’t believe that there was anything malicious or criminal in the use of these burial sites but it is very sad.

There have been different customs here in the United States over the years.

It seems that the length of pregnancy has a great deal to do with determining how things are normally handled.

For stillborn infants and small children most of the old line professional morticians offer their services free of charge.

Burial customs vary from cremation to burial in a separate grave or in the grave of a trusted family member or loved one.

I can’t say if any of it is right or wrong, only that everyone should be given an option to do what seems best for them and their situation.
 
A cousin (a generation older than me) once told me that she had lost a baby sister, probably around 1910. She wanted to visit the grave, and learned that in those days, babies were usually buried in unmarked graves. That was in the U.S. It was not unusual, and probably the mass graves weren't either.

I think the truly horrifying thing was all the deaths of infants and children, not how they were buried.
 
I don’t believe that there was anything malicious or criminal in the use of these burial sites but it is very sad.

I agree there's nothing malicious here, let alone criminal. I worry that women who lost children back then, that has relied on the tale they were told, are going to learn the truth now. That's just horrible to think about. I don't personally want any memorial left to me. No grave, no bowl of ashes.
 


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