4 Iranian Hostages Released Over Last Year For 400 MILLION DOLLARS in CASH

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When four hostages held by Iran were released after negotiations over the last year it just wasn't about unfreezing assets tied up since they took the Embassy hostage in 1979. Apparently Iran demanded cash, 400 MILLION DOLLARS in cash. Not just access to their money/assets but cash.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/40...isoners-released-raising-questions-2016-08-02

Sounds like a ransom but for contrived peace and relations to proceed I guess it's best to pay the kidnapper.
 

Yeah, then President Weakling is up there yesterday, in front the PM of Singapore ranting about a US Presidential-candidate from another Party being 'unfit' to secede him. That's embarrassing and rude in itself.

Now we find he paid ransom for our hostages.

The Shah-case from 1979 was still being litigated in The Hague, Nederlands.

-From 1979, paid on the exact same day as the 4 were released, in 2016. 37-years in between.

In other words, with the case still being litigated, the White House just pays the money... not waiting to see if The Hague's lawyers decide for/against us. Second of all, why was the money delivered (in Euros and Swiss Francs) in an unmarked cargo-plane? If it's legal, deliver it in American-dollars and a serial-marked cargo plane.

It's no coincidence, that's for sure. Our Kimono-Wearer In Chief paid ransom.

Thus since, Iran has detained 2 Americans and a host of other International hostages. Welcome to Obama's America, World. Not only have we given the go-ahead for more hostage-taking by despotic-regimes, we allowed a despotic-regime to continue with its nuclear-program: inspection-free (unless we give them a 30-day written request to inspect, ahead of time). We cannot be trusted.

I don't think the President will be laughing about who's unfit for Office today.
 

It pays to check one report against others. This is what I discovered with a bit of googling
The US owed the money to the Iranians since 1970. Plus interest.

The Drudge Report, Fox News, Donald Trump, and a host of other right-wing institutions are in a tizzy today over a report in the Wall Street Journal that the United States government sent a secret plane stuffed with $400 million in Swiss francs and euros directly to Tehran back in January, at precisely the same time Iran agreed to release four American detainees. “Obama Paid $400M ‘Ransom’ to Iran,” is how the New York Post is playing the story. Trump himself is calling it a “scandal.” What people seem to be missing is the fact that, while the Journal is the first to report that the payment was made in cash, literally everything else about the story—the money, the prisoner release, the quid pro quo allegations—was reported back in January.

First, a little backstory to explain how we got to this point: Earlier this year, the United States entered into an agreement with the Iranian government aimed at freezing Iran’s nuclear weapons program. As part of a whole bunch of peripheral issues surrounding that deal, there was a matter of four American citizens that were being detained in Iran on rather dubious charges, as well as $1.7 billion that Iran was demanding from the U.S. in restitution for an arms deal that went south back in the 1970s.

Back then, the U.S. and the government of the Shah agreed on a $400 million deal for fighter jets. The Shah delivered the money, but then he was deposed in the Iranian Revolution of 1979, so the Americans never delivered the jets. The American government did, however, hang on to the cash.

Ever since, the Iranian government has been trying to re-claim the payment in international courts, along with $1.3 billion in interest that’s accumulated over that time. As one of those peripheral issues, the U.S. agreed to pay the money back. This was pretty well known among people paying close attention, because President Obama said as much when it was all announced back in January. The New York Times reported at the time:

Mr. Obama also announced the resolution of another argument between Tehran and Washington that dates to the Iranian revolution, this one over $400 million in payments for military equipment that the United States sold to the shah of Iran and never delivered when he was overthrown. The Iranians got their money back, with $1.3 billion in interest that had accumulated over 37 years.​

On or about the same day that the initial payment of $400 million was made, the four Americans were released, with three on a Swiss Air Force plane headed to Geneva, and one headed back to the United States.

At the time, there was speculation from U.S. Speaker Paul Ryan and others that the payment amounted to a ransom for the four Americans. White House press secretary Josh Earnest attempted to deflect those charges in press conference on January 19, 2016:
Q: [O]n Sunday, we learned that the United States made a payment to the government of Iran of $1.7 billion. Was this tied to the deal that led to the freedom of the Americans that were being held in Iran?

MR. EARNEST: Jon, this is actually the result of a long-running claims process that had been at The Hague. In 1979, there was obviously an Iranian revolution that abruptly severed relations between our two countries. And prior to that revolution, the U.S. government had entered into an agreement with the then-Iranian government to transfer about $400 million in military equipment to the Iranian government. Once the revolution took place, obviously that equipment was not transferred, but we also didn’t return Iran’s money either.... And for more than 30 years now, the Iranians have been using this claims process at The Hague to try to recover that $400 million....

Q: Okay, but as I understand it, the Department of State announced this payment of $1.7 billion to the government of Iran just before the plane carrying the freed Americans landed in Geneva. You’re really telling me that this is an absolute coincidence that this payment just happened to coincide with the precise moment when the American prisoners were flying to freedom?

MR. EARNEST: Jon, I think we’ve made pretty clear that this is not a coincidence. The fact is, these kinds of diplomatic opportunities—
Q: ecause Paul Ryan has suggested this was a ransom payment. You saw his statement.

MR. EARNEST: He’s wrong about that.

More here: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/tha...wha-1784775010


 
See post #2 in this related thread.

Or,

FOXnews.com said:
It was their money,” Kirby told Fox News, noting the funds had been frozen and it “made no sense for us to continue to drag out their claim.” He argued the “compromise” struck with Iran worked to the “taxpayers’ benefit” because potentially billions more could have been on the line.
In a written statement, Kirby said the negotiations over the Americans and over the settlement were even conducted "by different teams on each side." He said: "The funds that were transferred to Iran were related solely to the settlement of a long-standing claim at the U.S.-Iran Claims Tribunal at The Hague."
However, the Journal says U.S. officials acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible.


Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics
 
Iran never heard of cashiers checks, money orders, treasury checks, electronic or wire transfers and/or a debit card? Paypal? Iran's assets and/or accounts were frozen not robbed of cash. Funny during the first hostage crisis in 1979 the release of the hostages was facilitated by the release 7.9 Billion in assets by big banks. The Fed and banks got the money to Iran. Iran actually used a Citibank lawyer to help broker negotiations in 1980. And yet 36 years later with advances in technology, currency transactions and/or payment options Iran chose/demanded to be paid cash like a drug dealer in a back alley rather than use a bank.

http://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/30/b...s-a-1-billion-wild-card-in-the-iran-deal.html

And that unfortunately that was another cash for hostages deal with the same kidnappers-Iran.
 
See "whatinthe" - I told you, no problemo. Obama said so and it's only "right wing" folks getting in a tizzy.

And now you have to nit-pick about "frozen" vs "stolen". You must be an Obama-hater. Money stacked on pallets secretly flown into a foreign nation is a perfectly normal way of conducting international relations.


 
It pays to keep informed and NOT listen to FOX.... That money has been owed to Iran.. and is THEIR money...

Believe what the heck you want... you are going to anyway, if Fox tells you to.
 
It pays to keep informed and NOT listen to FOX.... That money has been owed to Iran.. and is THEIR money...

Believe what the heck you want... you are going to anyway, if Fox tells you to.

It's just easier for some folks to put their minds into "park", and suck up whatever FOX spoon-feeds them.
 
400-mill in unmarked bills.... Wheel it in, boys.

The US Treasury had it printed special, then laundered it through Europe. Gosh. I'm sure glad we honored our debt to the Shah.
 
Actually, I think your treasury didn't print any bills for this but collected that amount of money in other currencies.

'Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane, according to these officials. The U.S. procured the money from the central banks of the Netherlands and Switzerland, they said.The money represented the first installment of a $1.7 billion settlement the Obama administration reached with Iran to resolve a decades-old dispute over a failed arms deal signed just before the 1979 fall of Iran’s last monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi./
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-1470181874


So relax folks, it's a first instalment of what is owed to Iran. And somewhere I read something about it having to be done in other currencies because you have a law on the books that prohibits America using your own currency for some reason. Sorry but I just can't find where I read that.
 


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