A Link Between Pot Use And Mass Shooters/shootings?

Sunny said:
I think it's much too easy to draw conclusions that one thing causes another, just because those two things coexist. A murderous psychopath smokes pot? People jump to the conclusion that there is a causative factor there. It would be just as easy to say he smokes regular cigarettes, or drinks beer, or drinks water (something in the water supply), or his mother's middle name begins with an R. Studies have shown that there is a connection? Bingo, we've solved the problem!

To me, it makes much more sense to say mass shootings are caused by cruelty, child neglect, hateful, baiting politics, racial/religious prejudice, ignorance of warning signals, etc. To the best of my knowledge, there is absolutely no evidence linking weed and violence. If anything, it probably works the opposite way, by making heavy users too "relaxed" and laid back to do anything whatsoever!
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I agree there are alot of contributing factors to the manufacture of a mass murderer. Probably takes a perfect storm of events, variables, mental health, family issues etc.

What I see with pot is I think there is a misnomer that it only makes people mellow which from personal experience I've found to be the opposite or not the only thing it does. Same for many of these psychiatric drugs like SSRIs etc. Sometimes pre existing conditions like personality, life events & experiences and personal health will offset any of the desired effects of these drugs. And which is why heavy/regular use shouldn't be ignored on any level.
 

WhatInThe said:
I think depends on the personality. I've known people very angry or aggressive people and pot did not/does not calm them. They went from moody, awnry etc to blatantly nasty & abrasive . Anything I've heard about most drugs is that it lowers inhibition and impulse control. So if a person is laid back and care free(not a contrived act for peers) that's probably how pot or other drugs will affect them. If a person is normally nasty moody the beast is that much closer to coming out.

With pot in the case of many young killer/shooters they tend to be disgruntled males where pot and other drugs will not get rid of long standing resentments, beliefs, attitudes etc partly because they have become ingrained and/or reinforced over time.
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I don't disagree, but, I think a beast/monster probably lies within everyone if they think their future is hopeless, they have no achievable goals or dreams. ( Almost like becoming a senior citizen..lol ) What is alarming many of these persons come from what appears to be a stable environment, but they break.
 
'stable environment'

They say some of the busiest drug dealing locations in the big cities are richer suburbanites coming in to score. I've seen those from a stable environment go to drugs. Sometimes it starts as experimentation or party which they don't want to stop. Sometimes I think many have it too easy. In a lack of appreciation sense.

Also if one had "a" stable environment maybe delinquency is a form of rebellion. In these mass murderers minds maybe they are rebelling. I will say they say the El Paso shooters/murderer's father was a life time drug addict and alcoholic who didn't go sober until the last decade. To top it off the father is into somekind of psycho babel self help poop. But that should a child confused, bitter or depressed not homicidal.
 

norman said:
A common trait among mass killers: Hatred of Women.." Dat be what Sweetie say to me when I argue wit her!"
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Hatred of women and/or lack of a father in the picture. In the Newton case the killers family was divorced ie his father not in the picture. Not sure what the exact resentment was with mass murder Lanza. Maybe he blamed for the broken family or since she was the only parent in the picture she was only one 'giving him' orders.
 
I've read of several mass shooters on prescription psych meds and think that's a much bigger risk factor. Big Pharma probably loves or even arranged for the pot connection article. The more areas that legalize marijuana, the more pharmaceutical companies stand to lose.
 
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WhatInThe said:
A link between pot use and mass shootings?

https://nypost.com/2019/08/07/the-link-between-pot-and-mass-shootings-may-be-closer-than-we-think/
Cites various studies and statistics. Emphasizes increased mental illness or issues among younger males which can coincide with increased pot use. Correlation not causation I get that but considering many of these shooter/KILLERS had a history of some mental problems, issues etc one has to wonder did how much of role did pot and other drugs including SSRIs play. These killers might have been mixing pot with other drugs prescribed or not, they could've self medicated and since there are some studies linking pot use to schizophrenia wether it exacerbates an existing condition or produces similar symptoms in young users the role of intoxicating drugs should be investigated.

Personally I think pot would have to be variable in a perfect storm of current events, health, social life etc. By itself I don't think it would produce a mass killer. Maybe a violent or angry person but killer?
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Seriously? While pot isn’t a perfect drug for anyone, I highly doubt that it’s a significant factor in any of these types of horrendous crimes. Most people who use are passive users.

Many people with mental disorders self medicate and sometimes mix things together that are dangerous but I’d say the main reason for this is existing mental disorders which aren’t properly being treated.
 
RadishRose said:
The Newton CT child school murderer killed his mother first.
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That's the only thing he did right. She knew he was mentally ill & bought him guns & lots of ammunition. She is to blame for the 26 deaths more than he is.
 

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