Academy Awards

Pepper said:
It is not normal to assault the comedian, Will Smith should have been kicked out instead of staying & grinning. The offensive one was Will Smith, not Chris Rock.

Everyone screams about their "Freedom of Speech" so Chris was free to speak and Will was free to hit him? Chris is a small man and macho Will towered over him. Tired of this sick culture unleashed in 2016.

So, Jon, what say you, or do I have to beat it out of you?
eta LoL, no fighting ;)
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Sick culture in Hollywood started in 2016? More like 2016 culture had it's origins there. Sure, he's a New Yorker, but very much Hollywood narcissism influenced.
 
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jerry old said:
these people are actors, how do you tell what is real and what is acting?
it is a frivolous event that merits no attention o_O
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I've long believed that. I'd never even know when they were held unless something makes headlines like this incident or I see sidebar news stories in more quiet years.
 

Well, it's not like this is the first time an actor has pulled a stunt to grab the spotlight at the Academy awards...anyone remember Jack Nicholson mooning everyone including the cameras on stage during his acceptance speech? I don't even remember what he got the award for. I only remember the shock heard round the world.

Nothing new. A streaker ran on the stage in 1974. Angelina Jolie said she was in love with her brother and then kissed him on the lips at the after party. 1973 Marlon Brando sent Sacheen Littlefeather onstage to decline his Best Actor win on his behalf to protest the way Native Americans were treated in Hollywood. Adrian Brody accepted his award and grabbed Halle Berry in a surprisingly warm embrace while planting a kiss on her lips.
 
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Alligatorob said:
Have to confess that I only skimmed your post and some of the others, my bad. I missed your point.

CODA does sound like an interesting movie, I'll see it when I can, will look for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CODA_(2021_film)
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I understand that this incident unfortunately stole what the award show is really suppose to be about and people really get interested in that sort of thing more than what really the show was suppose to be about. I don't blame anyone here because that news is all over the place.

I highly recommend seeing the film CODA and I do feel you will really enjoy it.
 
If nothing else, now everybody knows about alopecia. I'd never heard of it before.

It's interesting that the Academy Awards this year and last year had movies about the hearing impaired nominated for Best Picture. Last year, The Sound of Metal, which was about a drummer who went deaf, was nominated for Best Picture but didn't win. This year, CODA won Best Picture.
 
SeniorBen said:
If nothing else, now everybody knows about alopecia. I'd never heard of it before.
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My sister's boyfriend has alopecia. Not a hair on his body for 2 decades so I guess it isn't going to grow back. It often does if you complete a full course of the medication.

Actor Anthony Carrigan has alopecia. He plays NoHo Hank in a series I watch called Barry, and he's hilarious. He played a villain in Gotham and was in some other TV series and a few movies.
 
SeniorBen said:
If nothing else, now everybody knows about alopecia. I'd never heard of it before.

It's interesting that the Academy Awards this year and last year had movies about the hearing impaired nominated for Best Picture. Last year, The Sound of Metal, which was about a drummer who went deaf, was nominated for Best Picture but didn't win. This year, CODA won Best Picture.
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Both films are really good. CODA however I thought was a bit better.
 
Not that it matters to others, but, regardless of who was right or wrong, here's what I took away from this whole deal;
I see the “conservative case for letting someone publicly diss your wife to your face” was trending hard the other night. I wouldn’t rule out at all the whole pimp slap thing the other night was staged to save an Oscars show that has drawn flies for years. But even if so, it's still dismaying to see how many men think the guy who stood up for his wife, or pretended to, is the bad guy. We have truly gone soft. Oh, and I've heard all the arguments to the contrary, and they're all bad.
 
squatting dog said:
But even if so, it's still dismaying to see how many men think the guy who stood up for his wife, or pretended to, is the bad guy. We have truly gone soft. Oh, and I've heard all the arguments to the contrary, and they're all bad.
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If you're suggesting that because Will Smith took offense at a stupid joke he was justified to leave his seat, go up on stage and strike a man he towered over, then shout from his seat and drop the F-bomb on camera, I completely disagree with your position. A physical response to a comedian's bad joke is unacceptable. Comics can cope with being heckled but not being assaulted. What you minimize as a "pimp slap" nearly knocked Rock off his feet.

The only thing "soft" about this incident was Smith's ability to deal with a joke that annoyed his wife. His grandstanding will color everyone's perception of him from this point forward, mostly not in a good way.

it's a strong bet that after this incident, stage access points at future entertainment award and comedic shows will be manned by security, just as they are at rock concerts. Comedians will start rightfully stipulating their contracts include security during corporate events. All they'll need to say is, "I don't want someone going all Will Smith on me. "

Re CODA: I don't have an Apple TV subscription so I'll see it when or if it becomes available to the non-Apple world.
 
StarSong... I suggest nothing. I could care less about any of these bloated ego actors. My point, and it is my opinion only, was and still is that I'm astounded that so many men think the any guy who stood up for his wife, is the bad guy. Makes me think society would prefer that men don't stand up and defend their spouse. Never going to happen in my universe.
 
squatting dog said:
StarSong... I suggest nothing. I could care less about any of these bloated ego actors. My point, and it is my opinion only, was and still is that I'm astounded that so many men think the any guy who stood up for his wife, is the bad guy. Makes me think society would prefer that men don't stand up and defend their spouse. Never going to happen in my universe.
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Is Will Smith a bad guy, I don't think so. Do I think what he did by assaulting another man bad behavior and could he have handled it much better. Absolutely Yes.
 
Okay, I'm going to admit that, in theory, I would love my man to get up and defend me like that. I don't know how I'd feel if it actually happened right in front of me, but it sounds good from here.

Then again, Jada Pinkett Smith is kind of a badass and probably could have defended herself. Which also sounds really good to me, better actually. Maybe I would have gotten up and punched Chris Rock myself... in the throat.

She was probably more pissed at her husband than at Chris Rock.
 
Medusa said:
Jada Pinkett Smith is kind of a badass and probably could have defended herself.
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Exactly. She could have saved this for a Red Table talk.

It’s one thing for a man to defend his wife’s honour, it’s another to hit someone else for a questionable comment. Being compared to Demi Moore in her prime isn’t exactly an insult.

If anyone deserved a reprimand later, it might have been the female comedian earlier in the show who made a comment referencing Jada’s extracurricular affairs.
 
Jules said:
Exactly. She could have saved this for a Red Table talk.

It’s one thing for a man to defend his wife’s honour, it’s another to hit someone else for a questionable comment. Being compared to Demi Moore in her prime isn’t exactly an insult.

If anyone deserved a reprimand later, it might have been the female comedian earlier in the show who made a comment referencing Jada’s extracurricular affairs.
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I didn't see it, the awards or the incident, so I'm not familiar with some of your references, but I agree about commenting on Jada's personal life. Sheesh, was it a Jada Roast?
 
Silent Rose said:
Then the security that is probably paid quite well at this award show did not do their job. Even if he refused he should have been made and escorted out by security as he assaulted another person.
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At first I thought this too, until I read a comment from https://www.newsfromme.com/ on March 27th.

As he said, what if Will had refused to go (which we now know he did) and there’d been a further physical altercation. Or Jada had refused to leave. Etc. I’m not sure of linking to Marc’s blog so am not quoting it.
 
squatting dog said:
StarSong... I suggest nothing. I could care less about any of these bloated ego actors. My point, and it is my opinion only, was and still is that I'm astounded that so many men think the any guy who stood up for his wife, is the bad guy. Makes me think society would prefer that men don't stand up and defend their spouse. Never going to happen in my universe.
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There's a difference between standing up for someone you love and assaulting a comedian on stage over a perceived insult.

A reminder: women stand up for our friends and loved ones on a regular basis. (Even on this very forum.)
I've done it hundreds or possibly thousands of times over the course of my lifetime. Never did I think it required physical violence.
 
Jules said:
At first I thought this too, until I read a comment from https://www.newsfromme.com/ on March 27th.

As he said, what if Will had refused to go (which we now know he did) and there’d been a further physical altercation. Or Jada had refused to leave. Etc. I’m not sure of linking to Marc’s blog so am not quoting it.
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I understand that, but the thing is this is an entertainment show we are all talking about. One, I would have not had security come out to his seat and ask him to leave in front of everyone. I would have asked him and Jada to come back to a separate room and speak to them both there with security there and not ask them to leave , but tell them they had to leave. That way they would have been separated from the audience and if they would have put up a stink the audience would not have become aware of it. Security people should know how to handle these sorts of situations.
 

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