Another baby dies in a hot car, left there by her Grand Mother.

I was comparing the gun death situation in the USA, where little kids shoot themselves, or a sibling with a hand gun. Both the death by gun and the death by heat in the USA involve adult negligence. The chances of a child in Canada shooting themselves with a hand gun are near zero. That was my point. AS much as you may not like to have it pointed out, the USA is awash in guns, and many kids have died because of that fact. Of all the words that I wrote.....You fastened on "purse " as something important ? JimB.
Yes, you rarely miss an opportunity to dis on the US. Congratulations on yet again turning a US tragedy into a way to prove to the world how wonderful Canada is and how terrible the US is. Insecure much?

If you think most Americans are unaware of our problems, please think again.

By the way, Canada is far from perfect - I have a sister in the Toronto area who can attest to that - but most on the forum wouldn't dream of pointing out the imperfections in Canada and other countries. Bad manners, you know. Not to mention glass houses/stones and specks in another's eye when there are logs in one's own.

While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that when Americans hear of tragedies or difficulties in Canada, we stand beside you, mourn your losses, sympathize with you and hurt with your people. We don't point out how you screwed up or try to prove how much better we have handled a similar situation.

You live in a wonderful country. No argument. Enjoy it. You also happen to share a border with a powerful country whose citizens would give our very lives to protect your country from any outsiders who even thought about messing with you. That's how strong the US's sense brotherhood and commitment is to our beloved neighbor to the north.
 

At first I thought it sounded like a brilliant idea to put their purse in the back seat but...no...because no one thinks it's going to happen to them. No loving mother is EVER going to say to themselves, "I think I might leave my child in the car".

I do think it's possible to do it unintentionally because of many mental health reason. What if they have Attention Deficit Disorder? What if their medication or diet is causing brain fog or being confused.

@helenbacque ,I think you have something there....put the seats in the front seat where the mothers can see them.
Since this was the Grandmother, one would think that if she had mental health conditions or brain fog from medications, that the parents wouldn't permit her to watch their child, but perhaps they may not know the extent of the GM's absent mindedness. But then again, I realize that we all make mistakes. Fortunately most of them have small consequences, but not always. I wonder if there are any on SF whose parents forgot them somewhere, and had to come back for them. That happens too.
 
Yes, you rarely miss an opportunity to dis on the US. Congratulations on yet again turning a US tragedy into a way to prove to the world how wonderful Canada is and how terrible the US is. Insecure much?

If you think most Americans are unaware of our problems, please think again.

By the way, Canada is far from perfect - I have a sister in the Toronto area who can attest to that - but most on the forum wouldn't dream of pointing out the imperfections in Canada and other countries. Bad manners, you know. Not to mention glass houses/stones and specks in another's eye when there are logs in one's own.

While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that when Americans hear of tragedies or difficulties in Canada, we stand beside you, mourn your losses, sympathize with you and hurt with your people. We don't point out how you screwed up or try to prove how much better we have handled a similar situation.

You live in a wonderful country. No argument. Enjoy it. You also happen to share a border with a powerful country whose citizens would give our very lives to protect your country from any outsiders who even thought about messing with you. That's how strong the US's sense brotherhood and commitment is to our beloved neighbor to the north.
Thank you StarSong.
Too bad Canada doesn't have any senior forums up there where the OP can be as insulting as he wishes.
 

Women hardly ever go anywhere without their purse. I think we can agree on that ? How about this for a idea............Put your purse in the BACK SEAT, which would force you to actually LOOK in the back seat before you walk away from the vehicle ? link. https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/texas-1-year-old-girl-dead-left-in-sweltering-hot-car-for-10-hours/ Simple idea. Would it help the number of kids who die in hot cars ? Perhaps. What do you think ? JimB.
According to the article, this happened 2 years ago.
 
Yes, you rarely miss an opportunity to dis on the US. Congratulations on yet again turning a US tragedy into a way to prove to the world how wonderful Canada is and how terrible the US is. Insecure much?

If you think most Americans are unaware of our problems, please think again.

By the way, Canada is far from perfect - I have a sister in the Toronto area who can attest to that - but most on the forum wouldn't dream of pointing out the imperfections in Canada and other countries. Bad manners, you know. Not to mention glass houses/stones and specks in another's eye when there are logs in one's own.

While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that when Americans hear of tragedies or difficulties in Canada, we stand beside you, mourn your losses, sympathize with you and hurt with your people. We don't point out how you screwed up or try to prove how much better we have handled a similar situation.

You live in a wonderful country. No argument. Enjoy it. You also happen to share a border with a powerful country whose citizens would give our very lives to protect your country from any outsiders who even thought about messing with you. That's how strong the US's sense brotherhood and commitment is to our beloved neighbor to the north.
"I have a sister in Toronto " Congratulations. Come up and visit sometime. Would this be a good time to quote a certain US cabinet secretary, who was quoted as saying........"the 911 terrorists came from Canada " ? Or the US president who threatened to cut off Canada's ability to sell materials in the USA ? I have to think about the last time "Americans laid down their lives, to protect Canada " ? Would that be Korea, or Vietnam ? Yes your country is a very powerful international military power, so much so that it has only "Not been in a state of war " for 12 years since your rebellion way back when. JImB.
 
Oh right, your "Freedom of Speech " is only reserved for Merican's, right ? Funny how that works, isn't it ? JimB.
I wasn't sure if your hatred was for all Americans, primarily American veterans, all women, or just the human race in general. You'd be fun to analyze... but not gonna stoop to that level. Bless your heart, James. If I wouldn't know any better, I'd think your jealousy of Americans would be stifling and overwhelming to you... have you tried applying for citizenship? We'd love to welcome you. No... seriously! :rolleyes:
 
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"I have a sister in Toronto " Congratulations. Come up and visit sometime. Would this be a good time to quote a certain US cabinet secretary, who was quoted as saying........"the 911 terrorists came from Canada " ? Or the US president who threatened to cut off Canada's ability to sell materials in the USA ? I have to think about the last time "Americans laid down their lives, to protect Canada " ? Would that be Korea, or Vietnam ? Yes your country is a very powerful international military power, so much so that it has only "Not been in a state of war " for 12 years since your rebellion way back when. JImB.
I do visit Canada regularly. In fact I was there last summer and plan another trip come springtime.

If you're suggesting there are no loose cannons in Ottawa and elsewhere who spout stupid statements or recommend ridiculous policies, then I recommend you look a little deeper.

You will not draw me into a pissing match over countries and politicians. Most are well aware there is no perfect country on the planet. Canada included.
 
Another tragic story. So many children and pets die each year this way. I think they should attach an AirTag to their child and then setup an alert on the phone. When the phone is separated from the AirTag an alarm will go off. This feature is called notify when left behind. If they walked away from the car with the AirTag still inside an alarm would sound on their phone. Samsung's smart tags have the same feature.
 
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No parent gets in a car and thinks that they might leave their child or purse in the car. If you’re that foggy on that day, nothing is going to help. My DIL said that lately she’s left her purse in the backseat a few times. Not a problem because her child is 19. She’s just lucky that no thieves saw it.
 
Yes, you rarely miss an opportunity to dis on the US. Congratulations on yet again turning a US tragedy into a way to prove to the world how wonderful Canada is and how terrible the US is. Insecure much?

If you think most Americans are unaware of our problems, please think again.

By the way, Canada is far from perfect - I have a sister in the Toronto area who can attest to that - but most on the forum wouldn't dream of pointing out the imperfections in Canada and other countries. Bad manners, you know. Not to mention glass houses/stones and specks in another's eye when there are logs in one's own.

While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that when Americans hear of tragedies or difficulties in Canada, we stand beside you, mourn your losses, sympathize with you and hurt with your people. We don't point out how you screwed up or try to prove how much better we have handled a similar situation.

You live in a wonderful country. No argument. Enjoy it. You also happen to share a border with a powerful country whose citizens would give our very lives to protect your country from any outsiders who even thought about messing with you. That's how strong the US's sense brotherhood and commitment is to our beloved neighbor to the north.
Very well said.
 
Oh good gracious, you're right! So he was trolling us to start another gun conversation? :( Why is this allowed here?
Looks like you got caught there @jimintoronto, trolling this forum with a two year old story September 11, 2021 2:49am so you can rant and rave about guns again and bash the USA? Be better. You reflect poorly on the good Canadian people.
 
Yes, you rarely miss an opportunity to dis on the US. Congratulations on yet again turning a US tragedy into a way to prove to the world how wonderful Canada is and how terrible the US is. Insecure much?

If you think most Americans are unaware of our problems, please think again.

By the way, Canada is far from perfect - I have a sister in the Toronto area who can attest to that - but most on the forum wouldn't dream of pointing out the imperfections in Canada and other countries. Bad manners, you know. Not to mention glass houses/stones and specks in another's eye when there are logs in one's own.

While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that when Americans hear of tragedies or difficulties in Canada, we stand beside you, mourn your losses, sympathize with you and hurt with your people. We don't point out how you screwed up or try to prove how much better we have handled a similar situation.

You live in a wonderful country. No argument. Enjoy it. You also happen to share a border with a powerful country whose citizens would give our very lives to protect your country from any outsiders who even thought about messing with you. That's how strong the US's sense brotherhood and commitment is to our beloved neighbors
I was living in Detroit in 1973 when this commentary appeared on CKLW, a very popular Canadian radio station. It is by Gordon Sinclair, a famous commentator. I apologize in advance for getting away from the subject of children left in hot cars, but I'm tired of standing by and listening to my country being bashed.

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e55a...MDk3OEVCRCZ2aWV3PWRldGFpbCZGT1JNPVZJUkU&ntb=1
 
I have often read in the newspaper, about a policeman having
to break a window of a car, because a dog was left in it on a
hot day!

Oddly I have never heard of a similar rescue of any child left
in a hot car.

I don't know if it doesn't happen, or if they don't want to upset
people, but I am sure that it does happen.

Mike
 
This is more the kind of thing that happens to children in Canada;
https://www.ems1.com/ems-products/n...r-old-found-frozen-to-death-TaDMUMLl9g9RP1FF/

Let's face it, it's horrible when a child dies but there are millions of people caring for children every day, occasionally someone is going to be distracted and something bad will happen. I'd rather go to prison for twenty years than be the adult responsible for one of these deaths. They will never forgive themselves.
 
Okay... but we're talking about the children left in hot cars in Canada (which is what the link was that I pasted.) Also, curious about why you mentioned a "purse" in the back seat when just as many men leave babies in cars. Where did guns enter the conversation? You're the OP of this, and there's nothing about guns at all. 🤷‍♀️

Perhaps keeping the baby-bag (diapers, etc) on the passenger seat would be a reminder that there is a baby
in the backseat.

I know people can be forgetful, but .. :(
I thought I read years ago that there was a gizmo out that detected weight in the back seat when the driver's door opened. Maybe it was never put into use, don't remember.

I couldn't imagine leaving a baby in the back seat, I'm painfully aware whenever my dog is with me in the car, and never forget about his well being.

I imagine some people may have a lot on their minds, stressed, have problems, are hurried, etc. That may make something like this tragedy happen.

I can't imagine how a mother or father or sibling would feel if they accidently left a baby in a hot car to suffer and die. The sadness and guilt would be tremendous, although nothing will bring that baby back again. :(
 
I have traveled to a lot of countries that have denounced the U.S. I have heard us called some really ugly, foul names. We were ordered not to get into discussions or debates over which country was better or worse. I used to hear from people that would say, “You Americans this and you Americans that.” We would just smile and nod at them. We knew they were mostly just jealous because they weren’t in our position.

Germany was the country that surprised me. Although Germans would never admit their jealousy for the U.S. the women always were very friendly to us in the clubs. Sometimes this could cause a problem. It was the MidEast countries that would like to have destroyed us.

I always would just tease them and from time to time take their picture. They hated having their picture taken. I would tell them I was going to put their picture on the front cover of Time.
 
I was living in Detroit in 1973 when this commentary appeared on CKLW, a very popular Canadian radio station. It is by Gordon Sinclair, a famous commentator. I apologize in advance for getting away from the subject of children left in hot cars, but I'm tired of standing by and listening to my country being bashed.

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e55a...MDk3OEVCRCZ2aWV3PWRldGFpbCZGT1JNPVZJUkU&ntb=1
On June the fifth, 1973, over his broadcast on CFRB Toronto,
Mr Gordon Sinclair, one of Canada's most respected broadcasters
Had some thoughts concerning his American neighbor.
These are his words:

The United States dollar has taken another pounding on German,
French, and British exchanges this morning,
Hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany.
It has declined there by 41 percent since 1971,
And this Canadian thinks it's time to speak up for the Americans
As the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people in all the world.
As long as sixty years ago,
When I first started to read newspapers,
I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtze.
Well, who rushed in with men and money to help?

The Americans did, that's who.
They have helped control floods on the Nile,
The Amazon, the Ganges, and the Niger.
Today, the rich bottom land of the Mississippi is underwater,
And no foreign land has sent a dollar to help.
Germany, Japan, and to a lesser extent Britain and Italy,
Were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans
Who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts.
None of those countries is today paying even the interest
On it's remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
It was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted
And swindled on the streets of Paris
And I was there, I saw that.
When distant cities are hit by earthquake,
It's the United States that hurries in to help; Managua,
Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples.
So far this spring,
59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes
Nobody has helped.

The Marshall Plan, the Truman Policy
All pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries,
And now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent,
War-mongering Americans.
Now, I'd like to see just one of those countries
That is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build it's own airplanes.
Come on, now you, let's hear it!

Does any country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing jumbo jet,
The Lockheed Tristar, or the Douglas Ten.
If so, why don't they fly them?
Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or a woman on the moon?
You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon,
Not once, but several times, and safely home again.
You talk about scandals,
And the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at.
Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded.

They're right here on our streets in Toronto.
Most of them, unless they're breaking Canadian laws,
Are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend up here.
When the Americans get out of this bind,
As they will, who could blame them if they said to hell with the rest of the world.
Let somebody else buy the bonds.
Let somebody else build or repair foreign dams,
Or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.
When the railways of France and Germany and India were breaking down through age,
It was the Americans who rebuilt them.
When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke,
Nobody loaned them an old caboose.
Both of them are still broke.

I can name to you five thousand times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.
Can you name to me even one time when someone raced to the help of the Americans in trouble?
I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone.
And I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around.
They'll come out of this thing with their flag high, and when they do,
They're entitled to thumb their noses at the lands
that are gloating over their present trouble. I hope Canada is not one of these.
But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians.
And finally, the American Red Cross was told at it's 48th annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.
This years disasters, with the year less than half over,
Have taken it all, and nobody, but nobody, has helped.
 


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