Another shooting- charter school

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A shooting at an educational program for at-risk youth in Des Moines, Iowa, left two students dead and the program’s founder seriously injured, authorities said

At 12:53 p.m. Monday, Police and fire personnel responded to a report of a shooting at 455 SW 5th Street, which houses the non-profit called Starts Right Here, Des Moines police said in a news release.

They found the shooting victims, who were taken to hospitals. The names of the slain were not released.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/des-moines-shooting/index.html

https://who13.com/news/charter-school-shooting/

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Saw one report it's a school for troubled kids. Throw in a rapper(was trying to help kids) and a vendetta what can go wrong.
 
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JaniceM said:
The "rapper" has genuinely been trying to help kids.
And the previous, similar incident nearly a year ago occurred at a regular public High School.
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I know and should have noted but the killers/shooter didn't. For some reason rappers good or bad are too frequently a magnet for this stuff.
 
WhatInThe said:
I know and should have noted but the killers/shooter didn't. For some reason rappers good or bad are too frequently a magnet for this stuff.
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Well, considering the previous incident I mentioned, I'd venture a guess that he was simply in the wrong place at the same time, similar to the 'bystanders' in the previous incident.. and that the students who were killed were probably the targets.
 
JaniceM said:
Well, considering the previous incident I mentioned, I'd venture a guess that he was simply in the wrong place at the same time, similar to the 'bystanders' in the previous incident.. and that the students who were killed were probably the targets.
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I don't know for some reason rappers are the target all too often. Again some good and bad. In the 1990s they didn't want competition. Throw in drug money they wound up being a front for some organizations.
 
JaniceM said:
Somewhat different from well-known rappers:
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The good ones are out there but it's seems once a month a rapper is shot. The have a huge fan base. Shot rappers are TMZ and Daily Mail staple.

Too bad those kids got killed basically on their last chance before adulthood.
 
WhatInThe said:
The good ones are out there but it's seems once a month a rapper is shot. The have a huge fan base. Shot rappers are TMZ and Daily Mail staple.

Too bad those kids got killed basically on their last chance before adulthood.
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Well, there are individuals who rise above difficult backgrounds and use what they learned to try to lead kids (and others) in the right direction: https://www.willkeeps.com/about/
and there are those who choose the opposite approach:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur

as only a couple of examples.
 
Sorry I don't mean to take up a lot of space here..

One "suspect" is 18, charged with two counts of first-degree murder, one count of attempted murder, and one count of criminal gang participation.
As the other two aren't identified, they're probably minors.

The two deceased students were 16 and 18 years old.
 
JaniceM said:
Well, there are individuals who rise above difficult backgrounds and use what they learned to try to lead kids (and others) in the right direction: https://www.willkeeps.com/about/
and there are those who choose the opposite approach:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur

as only a couple of examples.
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@WhatInThe My son has been a Hip Hop artist and producer since he was 23. He was a member of two different groups, which he produced and one I managed for a short time. I traveled with them to their competitions and performances. The young men found out early on that the mostly White promoters (at that time) and big wigs in the game did not want to sign and promote artists who produced positive rap. After all, that wouldn't fit the stereotypical view of young Black men, would it?! They found out that Gansta Rap sold and that's what was constantly promoted but somehow KRS One and Kool Moe Dee became mainstream. as did MC Hammer. KMD wrote songs like Knowledge is King. His lyrics were tight and educational. Then of course there was The Queen...Queen Latifah rapping about Unity and not letting men disrespect women. All positive Rap is...is poetry. Some of it is gritty because its poetry about the experiences these young men and women grew up with. My son's group members wrote some really great songs featuring lyrics about staying in school, not doing drugs, listening to and learning from the wisdom of elderly people and not allowing scantily clad women to lead you (men) astray.

It's unfortunate that Rappers caught up in the madness that is the music business and the competition it brings, as well as other undesirable elements, wind up dead. It's a fast, hard life.

Re the OP: No words!! :mad: As I've said before, this is just getting to be too much. If I were school age...I'd be afraid to go to school. :cry:
 
OneEyedDiva said:
@WhatInThe My son has been a Hip Hop artist and producer since he was 23. He was a member of two different groups, which he produced and one I managed for a short time. I traveled with them to their competitions and performances. The young men found out early on that the mostly White promoters (at that time) and big wigs in the game did not want to sign and promote artists who produced positive rap. After all, that wouldn't fit the stereotypical view of young Black men, would it?! They found out that Gansta Rap sold and that's what was constantly promoted but somehow KRS One and Kool Moe Dee became mainstream. as did MC Hammer. KMD wrote songs like Knowledge is King. His lyrics were tight and educational. Then of course there was The Queen...Queen Latifah rapping about Unity and not letting men disrespect women. All positive Rap is...is poetry. Some of it is gritty because its poetry about the experiences these young men and women grew up with. My son's group members wrote some really great songs featuring lyrics about staying in school, not doing drugs, listening to and learning from the wisdom of elderly people and not allowing scantily clad women to lead you (men) astray.

It's unfortunate that Rappers caught up in the madness that is the music business and the competition it brings, as well as other undesirable elements, wind up dead. It's a fast, hard life.

Re the OP: No words!! :mad: As I've said before, this is just getting to be too much. If I were school age...I'd be afraid to go to school. :cry:
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and those who do produce positive rap deserve more exposure and recognition. (y)
 
and this kid- the 18-year-old shooter- already had numerous other charges against him during last year.. multiple incidents.. weapons, drugs.. which, if had been dealt with appropriately at the time, would have prevented yesterday's situation.
 
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