Are gas prices “driving you crazy?”

This morning as I was arriving at the gym, I noticed a gas price of $3.89 at one of those big Race Trac gas stations across the street. When I came out 90 minutes later, the price had shot up to $4.09. The only thing that changed was that Biden had made his announcement banning Russian oil. The multi national oil companies are going to reap YUGE $$$$.
 
Nosy Bee-54 said:
This morning as I was arriving at the gym, I noticed a gas price of $3.89 at one of those big Race Trac gas stations across the street. When I came out 90 minutes later, the price had shot up to $4.09. The only thing that changed was that Biden had made his announcement banning Russian oil. The multi national oil companies are going to reap YUGE $$$$.
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Worldwide crude oil commodity prices have been skyrocketing for the past two weeks or so. Here's a chart for the last month. It went from $89.36 a barrel to $124.59 in that time, and has really ratcheted up since Ukraine was invaded. The trajectory has been a fairly steady, steep climb since the third week of February.


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Here's some interesting factoids about oil and it's journey. :cool:
It takes between 21 to 35 days for a Russian oil tanker to get to US ports to be offloaded. It takes between 35 and 60 days for a tanker from the middle east to make the same trip.

It takes about 10 hours to load the tanker and up to 24 hours to unload. So, even at an idle, it's burning fuel. If it has to wait in port to get an unloading dock, it can take up to 3 days. The average tanker burns 2,625 gallons of diesel per hour.

Now, 22.38 pounds of CO2 are created from burning just 1 gallon of diesel. So, in 1 hour, a tanker ship hauling oil to a refinery in the US creates roughly 58,757 pounds of CO2 per hour. Averaging the travel time of the tankers, that's 26.67 million tons of CO2 per trip.
In comparison, your car creates between 6 to 9 tons of CO2 per "YEAR". o_O

Without getting all math crazy with how many tankers come to the US in a year, to say nothing of how many have to return to their home, could someone please explain to me how drilling our own oil and moving it through pipelines along with importing oil from Canada (again... our ally) via pipeline would not be more environmentally "green" and way more cost effective for us, and at the same time put a dent in (our enemy) Russia's bank account.

Again... there's that pesky smell test.
 
I don't drive but my son does. His car has been in 3 different shops for months due to peculiar and tragic circumstances but finally the engine was ordered so hopefully he'll be getting it back soon. He commented yesterday though that he's not so sure he wants it back now (jokingly, of course) because he's been coughing up boo-koo bucks each week to take Ubers to his job which is several towns away. There's a gas station near our apartment but I didn't take notice today of what the price was but GasBuddy.com lists it at $4.25 for regular. It also shows that the average gas price in N.J. is $4.32 and the lowest $3.49. I wouldn't be surprised if the lowest price is at Costco pumps.

Ooooh...I feel sorry for Hummer owners now! Seriously though...I hope this war doesn't lead to gas shortages (either real or manufactured) so that people have to wait in long lines for hours just to get some gas.
 
I suppose I will just have to find a way to reduce other purchases, because now that I finally retired and have time, I really want to go places and later this summer probably sell my house and travel by car around the US (slowly, like one 8 hour drive to a new location each month) before I get too old to do it.
 
StarSong said:
If we're going to start judging what people are driving let's also judge those who fly for business or vacations, or people who live in areas with extreme temperatures, but use energy to keep their homes a comfortable 68°-72° year round. Or those who use snowblowers instead of shoveling. Or use power mowers and tractors instead of old fashioned push mowers. Or turn lights on during daylight hours. Or. Or. Or.

Each of us could improve the level of energy we use. Prices will be going up for everyone.

Beware the slippery slope of accusation, my friends. When I point a finger at you there are four more pointing back at me.
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are people who use power mowers causing disruption to everyone else by parking them on roads not built to take them, and creating huge traffic jams in small streets ... or people who use snowblowers.. how are they affecting people on a daily basis.. or those who fly for business are they preventing people getting to work by jamming up the roads on a school run, ?

Lets get this into perspective...
 
hollydolly said:
are people who use power mowers causing disruption to everyone else by parking them on roads not built to take them, and creating huge traffic jams in small streets ... or people who use snowblowers.. how are they affecting people on a daily basis.. or those who fly for business are they preventing people getting to work by jamming up the roads on a school run, ?

Lets get this into perspective...
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My comment was in response to a post that only addressed fuel usage and prices at the pump.

Other than in a few old cities and towns, American streets and highways are wide enough to accommodate huge trucks and SUVs.

However I've done some international travel to areas of the world with quite charming older cities and villages, so I
certainly understand your point.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I do some driving every day. Last two times I filled up I paid $3.19 gal. Not bad at all.
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Today I filled up at $3.93 gal., gas prices have fluctuated in the past, gone up and then way down again. I will pay the current cost, I'm sure there were lower cost stations in my area, but I wasn't going to chase them down to save a few cents. I'm not even sure how much of this cost related to the Russian war against Ukraine, but whatever the cost, it's worth it.

Much respect for President Zelensky and the people of Ukraine who have suffered so much injury, death and destruction from this murderous dictator for no reason other then his own ego and thirst for power and control.

The Ukrainian people are strong, united, courageous and patriotic. I wish I could say the same for some people in this country. They are risking their lives to protect their Capitol, while traitors here attack our Capitol, and threaten hanging and murder. Something wrong with that picture. Sad state for the United States of America....not so united these days. :(
 
SeaBreeze said:
Today I filled up at $3.93 gal., gas prices have fluctuated in the past, gone up and then way down again. I will pay the current cost, I'm sure there were lower cost stations in my area, but I wasn't going to chase them down to save a few cents. I'm not even sure how much of this cost related to the Russian war against Ukraine, but whatever the cost, it's worth it.

Much respect for President Zelensky and the people of Ukraine who have suffered so much injury, death and destruction from this murderous dictator for no reason other then his own ego and thirst for power and control.

The Ukrainian people are strong, united, courageous and patriotic. I wish I could say the same for some people in this country. They are risking their lives to protect their Capitol, while traitors here attack our Capitol, and threaten hanging and murder. Something wrong with that picture. Sad state for the United States of America....not so united these days. :(
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Brava, SeaBreeze. Well said! We are $1.50/gal higher here, but your words ring true just the same.

During the height of pandemic restrictions (and the widespread whining about it) I often reflected on the massive sacrifices made by my parents, grandparents and great-grandparents during WWII, with very little complaint. Their fervent prayers were to have both war fronts end swiftly, to not have that unbearable telegram delivered to their home, and to have their loved ones return home safely.
 
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