Astra Zeneca covid vaccine now banned in Australia

chic said:
Australia has now prohibited the use of its covid 19 Astra Zeneca vaccine.
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Here is what I found on Australian Department of Health's website. No mention of a prohibition, but apparently it is no longer being made available.

Approval for use in Australia

From Monday 20 March 2023 Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) is no longer available. The information on this page is for those that have previously received a primary course and/or booster dose of AstraZeneca.

AstraZeneca was approved for use as a primary course and booster dose in people aged 18 years and over.

The TGA provisionally approved it for use in Australia as a primary course on 15 February 2021.

The TGA provisionally approved for use in Australia as a booster on 8 February 2022.

Pfizer, Moderna, or Novavax COVID-19 vaccines were preferred over AstraZeneca for people aged under 60 years. This was based on the higher risk and observed severity of a rare side effect called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS) after receiving AstraZeneca in people aged under 60 years compared with people aged 60 years or older.

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/our-vaccines/astrazeneca
 
Alligatorob said:
Here is what I found on Australian Department of Health's website. No mention of a prohibition, but apparently it is no longer being made available.

Approval for use in Australia

From Monday 20 March 2023 Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) is no longer available. The information on this page is for those that have previously received a primary course and/or booster dose of AstraZeneca.

AstraZeneca was approved for use as a primary course and booster dose in people aged 18 years and over.

The TGA provisionally approved it for use in Australia as a primary course on 15 February 2021.

The TGA provisionally approved for use in Australia as a booster on 8 February 2022.

Pfizer, Moderna, or Novavax COVID-19 vaccines were preferred over AstraZeneca for people aged under 60 years. This was based on the higher risk and observed severity of a rare side effect called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS) after receiving AstraZeneca in people aged under 60 years compared with people aged 60 years or older.

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/our-vaccines/astrazeneca
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6, April. 2023
A controversial Covid-19 vaccine — linked to a very rare but serious side-effect— has been quietly discontinued in Australia, the federal government has confirmed. The AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, sold under the brand name Vaxzevria, has not been available to the Australian public since March 20.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...t/news-story/b917f53dfbefa9342e9c3218724c58f8
 

Mike said:
There is a man here who is taking them to court for MURDER,
his young wife, mother of their two children, died one week, I
think, after she had the AstraZeneca vaccine, he can get nobody
to support him, the government is not interested.

The Coroner ruled that she died as a result of the vaccine.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/lisa-shaw-death-covid-vaccine-26665329

Mike.
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People die from the flu vaccine, too, but like the covid vaccine, it's extremely rare.

In August 2021, Newcastle coroner Karen Dilks said Ms Shaw had died from a very rare "vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia", a condition which leads to swelling and bleeding of the brain.
 
@Mike I couldn't read the article very well without accepting cookies, but on the face of it appears as though a man is trying to get someone charged for murder over his wife's death from the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Its a little hard to judge without more facts, but to prosecute someone for murder over a legally approved drug would seem to make little sense. I don't know your laws, or ours very well, but to do such a thing here one would have to prove some kind of fraud, or negligence, or knowledge that the drug was going to kill her before hand. Just the fact that on rare occasion complications can lead to death, particularly when it was disclosed and public knowledge should not be sufficient. If it were we'd pretty much put all drug manufacturers, sellers, and prescribers out of business. All drugs, and foods for that matter, carry some risks just a part of life.

Here in the US anyone can file a civil suit over anything, even without any merit. Doesn't mean they will get far, but filing the suit is easy. Maybe something like that has happened?
 
Murrmurr said:
6, April. 2023
A controversial Covid-19 vaccine — linked to a very rare but serious side-effect— has been quietly discontinued in Australia, the federal government has confirmed. The AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, sold under the brand name Vaxzevria, has not been available to the Australian public since March 20.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...t/news-story/b917f53dfbefa9342e9c3218724c58f8
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Thanks, that article makes it sound like it was AstraZeneca's decision, not the government. Hard to tell from the government's website.
 
AstraZeneca was made available in Australia early on during the pandemic for a couple of reasons.

Our government of that time was rather lax about ordering supplies of vaccines from overseas and Covid19 was just getting going in OZ. Also, we were able to do a deal to manufacture AZ here in our own laboratories.

We were in the process of trialling a home grown vaccine but for some reason that I cannot remember the trial was scrapped.

My first two Covid vaccinations were AstraZeneca but the last two have been Pfizer. No problems.

I am assuming that we are no longer manufacturing any vaccines ourselves under licence. We will be importing the vaccines that have already been proven in the northern hemisphere against the latest variants. That is one advantage that we have - our Winter is approaching and Covid is starting to break out. There has been time to study the latest variants before they arrive here. I believe the latest one is named Arcturus and has arisen in India.
 
SeniorBen said:
People die from the flu vaccine, too, but like the covid vaccine, it's extremely rare.
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Found some interesting statistics.
I think it kind of puts things in perspective. These are probably just approximate numbers and a bit of apples to oranges, but close enough. The Covid vaccine is about as hazardous as aspirin... maybe less so.
 
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Alligatorob said:
Found some interesting statistics.
I think it kind of puts things in perspective. These are probably just approximate numbers and a bit of apples to oranges, but close enough. The Covid vaccine is about as hazardous as aspirin... maybe less so.
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To put a perspective on the number of deaths, 230,283,056 people are considered fully vaccinated in the US alone. It's still not a huge number of deaths, but it doesn't include those who came near death and were successfully treated.

Deaths and injuries caused by the Astra Zeneca vaccine have been mostly blood clots and thrombosis. Thrombosis is extremely dangerous if the free-floating clot can't be located and stopped or removed before reaching the heart or brain.
 
Murrmurr said:
@Alligatorob - from the aspirin deaths link, I looked to see if intentional overdose was specified. I don't think it's there, but they're probably in the count.
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Maybe, as I said this is a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, but the point that the Covid vaccine is no more dangerous than aspirin holds, even if the exact numbers don't. Elsewhere I read that 30% of aspirin deaths are the result of low dose anti-heart attack use.

All drugs we take and foods we eat can have adverse effects, the key questions should be do they do more good than harm, save more lives than they take, and is there anything we can do to make them safer.

"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison." Paracelsus circa 1500
 
@Murrmurr , found this paper that indicates 1,745 suicide deaths by aspirin and other related over the counter pain killers in an 18 year period. That's about 100/year. Assuming a population of 300 million that would be 1/3 of a person per million. A lot lower than the total aspirin death rate.

Suicide-related over-the-counter analgesic exposures reported to United States poison control centers, 2000-2018
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32715560/
 
" From Monday 20 March 2023 Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) is no longer available.
The TGA provisionally approved for use in Australia as a booster on 8 February 2022.
Pfizer, Moderna, or Novavax COVID-19 vaccines were preferred over AstraZeneca for people aged under 60 years. This was based on the higher risk and observed severity of a rare side effect called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS) after receiving AstraZeneca in people aged under 60 years compared with people aged 60 years or older. "
- per Dept of Health, Australia

Also, AZ's vaccine was found less effective than other vaccines against the more contagious B variants of COVID, which are now predominant in most countries. Currently, the dominant variant nationwide is XBB.1.5, with 87.9% of cases, followed by XBB.1.9.1, with 4.6% of cases.

The COVID virus is mutating constantly; it's the nature of viruses and why they will always be with us, in one form or another.

" The newest COVID is Variant XBB.1.16, nicknamed Arcturus, part of the cluster of XBB variants now dominant in Australia. The rise of Arcturus has seen it listed on the World Health Organisation's watch list. Deakin University chair of epidemiology Professor Catherine Bennett said the information out of India, where the variant is rampant, suggested it looked a bit different. "They're describing this pink eye, or like a viral conjunctivitis, which is a bit unusual," she said. "
– https://www.canberratimes.com.au/st...19-variant-in-australia-could-cause-pink-eye/
 
Alligatorob said:
@Mike I couldn't read the article very well without accepting cookies, but on the face of it appears as though a man is trying to get someone charged for murder over his wife's death from the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Its a little hard to judge without more facts, but to prosecute someone for murder over a legally approved drug would seem to make little sense. I don't know your laws, or ours very well, but to do such a thing here one would have to prove some kind of fraud, or negligence, or knowledge that the drug was going to kill her before hand. Just the fact that on rare occasion complications can lead to death, particularly when it was disclosed and public knowledge should not be sufficient. If it were we'd pretty much put all drug manufacturers, sellers, and prescribers out of business. All drugs, and foods for that matter, carry some risks just a part of life.

Here in the US anyone can file a civil suit over anything, even without any merit. Doesn't mean they will get far, but filing the suit is easy. Maybe something like that has happened?
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Sorry for the delay Alligatorob, here is a different link, I don't
think it asks for cookies! Instead of accepting them, if you go
to other options, or choices, many have, "Reject All Cookies",
then go down and click save my choices.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lternative-file-suit-against-AstraZeneca.html

Mike.
 
Mike said:
There is a man here who is taking them to court for MURDER,
his young wife, mother of their two children, died one week, I
think, after she had the AstraZeneca vaccine, he can get nobody
to support him, the government is not interested.

The Coroner ruled that she died as a result of the vaccine.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/lisa-shaw-death-covid-vaccine-26665329

Mike.
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I never could think of a good reason to exclude these vaccines from litigation. Maybe had the governments approached it a different way, like putting caps on lawsuits would have been one idea.

The truth about these vaccines cold never be more valuable than it is today. It would be worth any amount if the government would hire a lab that is considered 100% reliable and tell us after their experiments and investigations just what the truth is. The main worry would be corruption by paying off people to lie for profit.

I doubt if the majority of people sincerely believe everything that is being told to them by the governments. So many different illnesses and deaths are being blamed on the vaccine, but is it?
 
Been There said:
The truth about these vaccines cold never be more valuable than it is today.
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I agree, but even if we had the best version of the truth possible I suspect there are many who would not believe it. We do have a lot of good science based information now, but many do not either take the time to look at it or just don't believe anything positive about the vaccines. This should not stop us from trying to do a good unbiased review of what happened and is happening.
Been There said:
So many different illnesses and deaths are being blamed on the vaccine, but is it?
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There is some truth to this, however the important question is on balance do the vaccines reduce the risk of illness and death. Are the risks worth the benefits? I think the data does support a benefit, overall reduced risk.
Been There said:
I never could think of a good reason to exclude these vaccines from litigation.
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Without it we probably would not have gotten the vaccines we got as quickly as we did. Drug companies are subject to lots of litigation and big judgements, they would not likely have wanted to release the vaccines without this protection. Or so I believe.
 
chic said:
Australia has now prohibited the use of its covid 19 Astra Zeneca vaccine. This vaccine had been mandated a year ago. Another vaccine now deemed unsafe and ineffective.
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Strangely it is the other one that caused me such discomfort for about 2 months, on my fourth jab. I very much feel for those who had such a terrible reaction, at least I was ok. It's all been such a nightmare and I am changed as a person on every level.

I used to be strong, healthy and confident pre-pandemic. I am now weak, depressed and very anxious, my health has broken down due to the sheer stress and isolation of the whole thing.
Still, nothing compared to those who died terribly and the grief of those left behind.
 
Rose65 said:
Strangely it is the other one that caused me such discomfort for about 2 months, on my fourth jab. I very much feel for those who had such a terrible reaction, at least I was ok. It's all been such a nightmare and I am changed as a person on every level.

I used to be strong, healthy and confident pre-pandemic. I am now weak, depressed and very anxious, my health has broken down due to the sheer stress and isolation of the whole thing.
Still, nothing compared to those who died terribly and the grief of those left behind.
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Is there anything you an do that your insurance will pay for to help yourself to feel better?
 
chic said:
Is there anything you an do that your insurance will pay for to help yourself to feel better?
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Here in the UK we don't have insurance.
I just felt very unwell for some weeks after the fourth jab, the Moderna. It seemed to churn my body up completely and frightened me.The first 3 jabs Astra Zeneca, were no problem, except a sore arm.
 

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