Aussies launch air strikes against ISIS!

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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They have joined in the multinational approach to checking and destroying ISIS from the air with their flying machines. I salute them for this as all of us should...
 

No, we all don't know what the old lady said, so please tell us...
 

Anyone happen to watch the ISIL member (probably American or Canadian judging by his English) on video standing in front of the opposition soldiers and holding a pistol.. The soldiers, he said, were digging their own graves.. and he murdered them.. Are we close getting to a point that Air Strikes are ineffective? Are we getting closer to going in and kicking their murdering arces? I'm not a War Hawk, by anymeans... but these sadists should be stopped. We turned a blind eye to Hitler when all the signs pointed to what he was doing to the Jews.. Sometimes there has to be a stand taken before history repeats itself.. Thoughts?
 
It's the Crusades all over again....and that didn't work. We'd better try harder this time or many more heads will be severed
regardless of the methods used to put a stop to this hideous animal practice.
 
Sorry, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I find the timing of the escalation and person leading these barbaric executions suspect. Yes, I know, I'm likely waaaaaayyyyyyyyy off base, but still.
 
QuickSilver said:
Anyone happen to watch the ISIL member (probably American or Canadian judging by his English) on video standing in front of the opposition soldiers and holding a pistol.. The soldiers, he said, were digging their own graves.. and he murdered them.. Are we close getting to a point that Air Strikes are ineffective? Are we getting closer to going in and kicking their murdering arces? I'm not a War Hawk, by anymeans... but these sadists should be stopped. We turned a blind eye to Hitler when all the signs pointed to what he was doing to the Jews.. Sometimes there has to be a stand taken before history repeats itself.. Thoughts?
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If we send our soldiers back into bloody war again and sit back,again,to watch those planes landing at Dover Air force base filled with body bags.Im gonna really scream....
If we send 50,000 of our men into battle and the rest of our buddies ,the allies,send the same amount then I might calm down.
 
Davey Jones said:
If we send our soldiers back into bloody war again and sit back,again,to watch those planes landing at Dover Air force base filled with body bags.Im gonna really scream....
If we send 50,000 of our men into battle and the rest of our buddies ,the allies,send the same amount then I might calm down.
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Do you see an option? Air Strikes don't seem to be slowing them down. OR.. just let them over-run the middle east and gain strength? That's an option too. Maybe not a bad one... So long as we don't have our troops killed. I agree about our Allies.. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Don't expect them to do anything other than the bare minimum.. and lip service.
 
QuickSilver said:
Do you see an option? Air Strikes don't seem to be slowing them down. OR.. just let them over-run the middle east and gain strength? That's an option too. Maybe not a bad one... So long as we don't have our troops killed. I agree about our Allies.. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Don't expect them to do anything other than the bare minimum.. and lip service.
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I think that today all Britain CAN offer is the bare minimum, sadly our services have been so run down over the last few years, we don't have many ships, jets etc.It's quite scary how little we have actually.However, if all the countries got together and sent what they had...... that would count!
 
oakapple said:
I think that today all Britain CAN offer is the bare minimum, sadly our services have been so run down over the last few years, we don't have many ships, jets etc.It's quite scary how little we have actually.However, if all the countries got together and sent what they had...... that would count!
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The same applies in NZ, however I did hear our PM say our SAS troops will be deployed.
The bombings have pushed ISIL back from the Turkish border, I'm waiting to see when Turkey takes a stand, they have enough tanks on the border at the ready.

 
Well, unless those airstrikes are combined with taking away all the support that ISIS gets (funding, arms, medical intervention, safe haven and training) from the countries as implicated in the following article, this could very well go on indefinitely. And according to numerous articles that I've read, including the attached, Turkey, a NATO ally, is right up there leading the pack. If there really is a drive to bring down ISIS, why do we not hear that Washington has taken a stance against Saudi or Turkish support? Why do we not hear from my own country and other threatened countries, that America must stop handing out money and whatever else (training, etc) to whichever terrorist group they choose for that day, to be used for their own purposes? Silence on the part of the world on that score. And the world pays or more specifically, the civilians pay.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2014/10/isis-turkey-and-propaganda-of.html#more

As for your comment AprilT: Sorry, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I find the timing of the escalation and person leading these barbaric executions suspect. Yes, I know, I'm likely waaaaaayyyyyyyyy off base, but still.

Over time, many 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be right. Just Google 'conspiracy theories that are right' and you can find lots of examples. So really, being a conspiracy theorist is not a bad thing at all. It simply means that you aren't willing to go along with the herd and accept whatever the talking heads want to dish up for you. It means you are a skeptic and require real, definitive and unbiased proof of whatever those same talking heads are 'repeating' as gospel. So hang on to your 'aluminum pie plate' hat and always look for real info.
 
QuickSilver said:
Do you see an option? Air Strikes don't seem to be slowing them down. OR.. just let them over-run the middle east and gain strength? That's an option too. Maybe not a bad one... So long as we don't have our troops killed. I agree about our Allies.. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Don't expect them to do anything other than the bare minimum.. and lip service.
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Not for the first time you have had a go at the allies, perhaps you should consider the fact that the allies are just sick of jumping to the U.S. president the same as Bliar did with Bush invading Iraq....which in my opinion if that hadn't happened perhaps IS wouldn't have such a foothold now.
 
As a democracy; UK has voted against air strikes in Syria , and boots on the ground; although SAS have been there for ages..

Turkey, a member of NATO, is refusing to do anything; just watching; because they have been fighting the Kurds for years..

So, using literal thought; can't we air strike IS with some dead bodies with Ebola, and just leave them....
 
Viruses don't discriminate between combatants and others, but you knew that, didn't you Vivjen?

Sometimes patience is required to win a war.
We need to play the long game and hang in there until we have checkmate.
 
Not for the first time you have had a go at the allies, perhaps you should consider the fact that the allies are just sick of jumping to the U.S. president the same as Bliar did with Bush invading Iraq....which in
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my opinion if that hadn't happened perhaps IS wouldn't have such a foothold now.
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Or perhaps we realize you really aren't that helpful to us... Stay out... I don't think anyone is going to miss the UK.. No one here really gives a rat's patoot.. lol!!

As for "having a go" at our so called ALLY? I like many Americans believed that the people of the UK were our friends.. and ally. I have learned much differently having participated on other forums. I was kind of taken aback at the animosity so many brits have against the USA.. what else can you expect. NO.. I'm not particularly enthralled any longer. Neither are many Americans.. Keep pokin' that stick in our eye.... and what can you expect.??
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Viruses don't discriminate between combatants and others, but you knew that, didn't you Vivjen?

Sometimes patience is required to win a war.
We need to play the long game and hang in there until we have checkmate.
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I agree DW.. it's going to take a long time to wipe out this scourge.. AND it will take patience. I hate to say it.. but perhaps it's going to take more than air strikes.. It appears that ISIS has over run a city right on the Turkish boarder.. Turkey is still sitting on it's hands.. They are next.
 
One man's story from Kobane

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...ice-from-kobane-battl-201410910315549674.html

I am originally from Aleppo but I had to leave when ISIL arrived. It was horrible. We saw horrible things. ISIL is so brutal, even Satan himself would cower. They kill people in their homes. In some places, we saw blood streaming from homes. The red blood of humans, our brothers, innocent people.

It's then that I decided to join the YPG, to help fight against ISIL in any way that I could. I want to rid the world of this evil.
I went to Kobane, to stay with relatives who gave shelter to me and my family.

During the fighting, we heard many times that Turkey would eventually step in and help. We heard the US would intervene. Some said that Europe would probably join too. But days passed, and nothing. We're still waiting. And this was even before ISIL advanced towards Kobane. We had hope then that we would fight hard now, and then help would come. We didn't have enough weapons. But the Kurds are brave.
Young boys and girls are fighting. Have you ever heard of girls fighting anywhere? But our girls fight. And many of our girls have died fighting. One young girl was captured by ISIL. Do you know what they did to her? They beheaded her. A woman. They beheaded a woman. Then they threw her body in the water. She was a strong girl.

A lot of families had to leave their homes only to save their girls. In Aleppo, ISIL used to come and take our girls. They raped them, they they killed them. The daughter of my dear neighbour, she did not want to fight them, but they killed her too.

In Kobane, they've killed many women fighters too. They are barbarians. They don't care if it's a woman or a man. They are not Muslims. This is not how Muslims behave. I am Muslim. I could not even imagine committing such barbarous acts.
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QuickSilver said:
Or perhaps we realize you really aren't that helpful to us... Stay out... I don't think anyone is going to miss the UK.. No one here really gives a rat's patoot.. lol!!

As for "having a go" at our so called ALLY? I like many Americans believed that the people of the UK were our friends.. and ally. I have learned much differently having participated on other forums. I was kind of taken aback at the animosity so many brits have against the USA.. what else can you expect. NO.. I'm not particularly enthralled any longer. Neither are many Americans.. Keep pokin' that stick in our eye.... and what can you expect.??
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Perhaps those people got sick and tired of being puppets to the U.S.
 
Vivjen said:
As a democracy; UK has voted against air strikes in Syria , and boots on the ground; although SAS have been there for ages..

Turkey, a member of NATO, is refusing to do anything; just watching; because they have been fighting the Kurds for years..

So, using literal thought; can't we air strike IS with some dead bodies with Ebola, and just leave them....
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Turkey is also guilty of enabling ISIS despite the fact that they are a NATO ally. Why is America so silent on that score? Hmmmm, going to have think that one through...oh wait, there's this: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/201...a-of.html#more

As for your ebola suggestion, you'd probably have to find a family where they despised their dead 'ebola cousin' anyway to get around family attachments and traditions. Might be tough to do.
 
Not sure what you mean Debby... but I'm not sitting back and letting my country be bashed or belittled... Not ever.. especially not by "furners" lol!! Seems like others can stand up for their countries, but Americans are supposed to sit back and take the bad mouthing.. If we stand up for our country, we are being Arrogant and obnoxious... Well... So be it... It that's what I'm being.. then I have one word.. Tough.. AND perhaps two... Tough S
 

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