Paladin1950
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Any other site covering this? It's one of those irritating pay walls again. Raping dogs? I feel like puking. Lock the degenerate away.
Australian Zoologist Imprisoned for 10 years for serious abuse of animals.
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Absolutely true. No nation considers itself bound by the Mosaic Law. In fact, in ancient times, the only one that felt that way was Israel because it considered itself bound by a covenant with God.
Exodus 19:1-8
All that the Lord Has Spoken We Will Do
The rest of the world was not, and never has been bound by that covenant. Today, from a Christian standpoint,, neither are the Jews since Christians believe that Jesus replaced The Mosaic Law with a new and better covenant.
Matt 26: 28
For this is my blood of the New Covenant which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
New Covenant Scriptures
4 Bible verses about The New Covenant
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hollydolly
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Mobilman44
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It was asked, "why the need to share this?"
Well, for one reason, it underscores the fact that "the wonderful woman / man / kid that lives down the street and everybody loves..... may be committing horrible crimes".
In example, my nephew (good looking Italian kid) walked past John Wayne Gacy's house many days a week on his way to/from his part time job. There was no indication whatsoever that this man was the indescribable sick, perverted killer he really was.
By the way, this discovery in part was the basis for my nephew to become a policeman and he retired as a captain.
Well, for one reason, it underscores the fact that "the wonderful woman / man / kid that lives down the street and everybody loves..... may be committing horrible crimes".
In example, my nephew (good looking Italian kid) walked past John Wayne Gacy's house many days a week on his way to/from his part time job. There was no indication whatsoever that this man was the indescribable sick, perverted killer he really was.
By the way, this discovery in part was the basis for my nephew to become a policeman and he retired as a captain.
The Bible also commands "Though shall not kill". How does Mosaic law balance the two?
It is more accurately translated as you shall not murder.
Exodus 20:13-24 NIV
13 “You shall not murder.
Difference between Kill and MurderThe King James Version (KJV) of the Bible renders the sixth commandment in Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17 as “Thou shalt not kill.” This wording gives the impression that it is always wrong to take a human life, with no exceptions. It is a wrong impression, for the Bible elsewhere allows for the execution of certain criminals (Genesis 9:6) and killing in the context of warfare (1 Chronicles 19:18). So the command “Thou shalt not kill” cannot be taken in an absolute sense.
In fact, the KJV’s wording of “Thou shalt not kill” is needlessly broad and inexact to the point of impairing clarity. Nearly all modern translations, including the New King James Bible, correctly render the original Hebrew wording as “You shall not murder” (NIV) or “Do not murder” (CSB). The Amplified Bible words it this way: “You shall not commit murder (unjustified, deliberate homicide).”
What is the difference between “you shall not murder” and “you shall not kill”? | GotQuestions.org
That interpretation I agree with, so there is an agreement on that. However, as we know, the Bible is full of metaphoric phrases and aphorisms and hidden meanings. Therefore, my interpretation of your post 24 is a final judgment death, not earthly. As killing a person for lusting after an animal is, to me Murder, not justified. Other punishment, yes. Do you have any biblical historical facts that indicate your version was carried out execution?
In reality, was it ever carried out. Probably.
In reality, was it ever carried out. Probably.
No, it isn't merely my personal version. It is the universally accepted understanding of those scriptures that they were meant to be understood literally. And no, the Bible is not open to any and all possible interpretations. As is true of all literature, the statements exist within a semantic, historical, and cultural context which determines meaning.
These are always taken into serious consideration. since if they are not, then conclusions which are totally out of kilter with the intended meaning and with the rest of the Bible will be reached. So all these were considered when concluding that the punishment was literal and not metaphorical was reached.
Acts 7:54-60
The Stoning of Stephen
54 When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.
1 Kings chapter 21: 13:
"Naboth cursed God and the king." So they took him outside the city and stoned him to death with stones. 14Then they sent to Jezebel, saying, "Naboth has been stoned; he is dead."
Joshua 7: 25.
The people of Israel then stoned to death Achan and his family. They made a fire and burned the bodies, together with what Achan had stolen, and all his possessions. 26 They covered the remains with a big pile of rocks, which is still there. Then the Lord stopped being angry with Israel.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua 7&version=CEV
1 Samuel 30:6
And David was greatly distressed because the people spoke of stoning him, because the soul of every man grieved for his sons and daughters. But David found strength in the LORD his God.
John 8:59
At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
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Of course you have a right to your opinion and I respect that right. So I am merely responding to your request for evidence.
Neither is the first clause of the First Amendment, and it trumps any biblical nonsense. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Very true. The dude who recently attempted to blow Trump's brains out looks like a decent kid.
Dogs, chickens, horses, goats, cows, etc. A nauseating example of just how depraved humans can become.
Believe me, the 1st is one of the most litigated by the Courts. As you point out, if the Bible is to be Universal, then everyone on Earth must have the same opinion on meaning, which they do not.
LoveTulips
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I'm not going to read it HD but my response is to torture that person and then kill him.
oscash
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I heard about that disgusting person on the news the other day. I'm sure he'll get his just deserts when he is in prison. I was only watching a program on the t.v. last night titled Born to Kill. This person had a very strange upbringing as his mother rented out rooms in their house.
Well, she had relationships with many men and the son, who was only 6 at the time had to endure all of this, and she made him sleep with his sister, who in turn used to get undressed in front of him. . This in turn made him sexually molest and murder women in his community. He was eventually caught and imprisoned for many years. He should have got the death penalty for all the pain and suffering caused to the whole community.
George1959
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Yes, but you wrote that the 6 year old son had to endure forced incest with his mother and sister. I don't want to exculpate him, but is he in this case not a victim also? It is quite possible that the crimes of his mother against him later forced him to molest and murder women, but without his mother's evil behavior against him it possibly wouldn't have happened.
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oscash
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George 1959: This is quite possible why this happened, but I'm sure many people have had to endure terrible things that happened to them in life, but that didn't make them murder others. People who survived concentration camps, molested by the clergy and others too numerous to mention, they are survivors. I'm sure some people are just plain evil.
Mobilman44
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We all know the old saying.... "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree".
That was coined before DNA was studied, and of course the DNA of the parents is transferred to the offspring. The two parents transfer it in varying percentages, IMO ranging from 1 plus 99 percent to 50 plus 50 percent - with usually one parent's "identity" being more prevalent than the other's.
Using my family as an example...
- my oldest son is very much like me in so many ways.
- my daughter is her mother in pretty much every way.
- my second son is like me physically, but has the mindset of his mother.
- my third son is like his mother in general appearance, but has my mindset.
As my Wife says.... "it's DNA, and not much you can do about it"!
That was coined before DNA was studied, and of course the DNA of the parents is transferred to the offspring. The two parents transfer it in varying percentages, IMO ranging from 1 plus 99 percent to 50 plus 50 percent - with usually one parent's "identity" being more prevalent than the other's.
Using my family as an example...
- my oldest son is very much like me in so many ways.
- my daughter is her mother in pretty much every way.
- my second son is like me physically, but has the mindset of his mother.
- my third son is like his mother in general appearance, but has my mindset.
As my Wife says.... "it's DNA, and not much you can do about it"!