Black Teen handcuffed while White Teen allowed to sit on couch

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Snow74 said:
Nope you can’t possibly leave I need a target for my frustrations…
( I am kidding) so enough of this not here anymore…tis rather tiring dude!🤦‍♀️
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Oh no, I'm not and would not leave of my own choice. Not yet anyway but I just read things and get a feeling that maybe some people aren't all that comfortable having to consider things that they'd rather not. No, I'd only leave if I were forced to.
 

True but sometimes when we look at the things we aren’t comfortable with, we might ask ourselves what is it that causes us to feel that way and to change it if it’s something that we feel would make the world even just a little better, for myself and those around me. We don’t have to like every idea that comes our way but just because it makes one feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be addressed. Think of an elephant in the living room. Everyone can see it and or knows it’s there, but let’s not talk about it, because it makes some of us feel uncomfortable.
 

Alligatorob said:
My wife is a social worker counselor, an MSW. When we lived in Florida she had a private practice in an office in a small town. One day she had a black person, a client, waiting to see her. The black man decided to wait outside, it was a nice day, he walked around the property and sat on the porch.

A neighbor called the police and reported him as a suspicious person. Fortunately the police were pretty good about it, and after talking to the man and my wife all ended peacefully.

However in the almost 10 years she was in that office no one ever called the police to report any of her white clients. Most of her clients were white.

The black man just took it in stride, made no complaints and was cooperative with the police. However I am sure he knew what was happening... he had to have.
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Prejudice is deeply en-grained in the psyche, most people will deny that it's there. Even with "enlightened" folks that make a conscious effort to treat people equally....the prejudice is hardwired
 
It could be fear is a part of the equation too. Statistically speaking, certain racial and age groups commit a larger proportion of crime when compared to how much of the population they make up. It doesn’t make it right or mean that there is never any prejudicial feeling involved but the police don’t have time to ask questions about situations that appear, in their judgement, to be out of control already. That’s probably why they were called, something bad was going on. And as far as I know, police officers come in all races and genders. I’m sure that there must be a few black officers who, now and then, are a little tougher on a white or other race suspect than they might be on someone of their own race. It’s more of an “Us against Them” really though, in most cases, I’d hope. Good vs Evil, I’m speaking of, not race against race.
 
Irwin said:
Yep, one of my neighbors is a... how shall I say this... an ardent watcher of Fox "news" and believer of all the propaganda that comes from those kinds of media outlets. I don't trust him one bit. I actually bought a handgun just in case for protection in case he flips out and starts shooting up the neighborhood. That was several years ago when things were really crazy, though. It might have been during the BLM protests.
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Did you notice the headline of
Outrage over Black teen handcuffed in mall fight

was by CBS news.
I like a variety of news outlets. As I posted eliminating the hype & only watching the fight helped me come to the conclusion that situations puffed up keeping racial tensions high is what media outlets look for.

I wasn't outraged simply because I looked at the fight in the video , skipping the talking heads & interview, then decide for myself the why of the sensationalism.

Kids have been in fights forever over a variety of things. IMO the only thing new in this was making it a racial issue. One thing that stood out for me was the size of those teens. I don't think if alone that female officer would have fared well.
 
I just watched the video again and it looked like the Black teen was throwing most of the punches. The Hispanic teen was just trying to wrestle him down, and then did throw a punch just before the fight was broken up. But the Black teen definitely was the more aggressive fighter, and his aggression didn't let up when the police arrived at the scene, which is probably why he was handcuffed and not the Hispanic teen.
 
Nothing new in the USA.

https://abc7ny.com/bridgewater-commons-mall-racism-fight-internal-affairs/11568025/

When the cops arrived the bigger teen (White Hispanic) (high schooler) was on top and punching away on the smaller middle schooler Black teen. The female cop pulls off the white teen and gently gave him a seat on the couch. The male officer immediately tackles the black teen to the ground and handcuffs him. Even though he was on the bottom taking a trashing, the cops immediately decided that he was the problem. Embedded racism.

It reminds me of cop murdered by a cop back in the 70's. A plain clothes black cop was chasing a white suspect. A white uniform cop came upon the situation and ended up killing the black cop.

Only in America!

This stuff happens hundreds of times a year. We only get to see what is recorded.

Bonus paid vacations for the cops. The police will investigate themselves. Conclusion will be the cops did nothing wrong.
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Even the white kid recognized he has privilege.

“I knew it was wrong, and I knew there was gonna be problems when they did that,” 15-year-old Joey, who was involved in the fight, said. “They didn’t go for me.”

Tuesday night, he told PIX11 News — with his mother’s permission — that he couldn’t believe he wasn’t also placed in cuffs.

“I didn’t understand why,” the teen said. “I even offered to get handcuffed as well.”

Joey’s friend, Sienna Freidinger, filmed the video. She said the officers’ responses weren’t “fair.”

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/n...nj-mall-scuffle-ignites-critique-of-policing/
 
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Nosy Bee-54 said:
Nothing new in the USA.

https://abc7ny.com/bridgewater-commons-mall-racism-fight-internal-affairs/11568025/

When the cops arrived the bigger teen (White Hispanic) (high schooler) was on top and punching away on the smaller middle schooler Black teen. The female cop pulls off the white teen and gently gave him a seat on the couch. The male officer immediately tackles the black teen to the ground and handcuffs him. Even though he was on the bottom taking a trashing, the cops immediately decided that he was the problem. Embedded racism.

It reminds me of cop murder by cop back in the 70's. A plain clothes black cop was chasing a white suspect. A white uniform cop came upon the situation and ended up killing the black cop.

Only in America!

This stuff happens hundreds of times a year. We only get to see what is recorded.

Bonus paid vacations for the cops. The police will investigate themselves. Conclusion will be the cops did nothing wrong.
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Even the white kid recognized he has privilege.

“I knew it was wrong, and I knew there was gonna be problems when they did that,” 15-year-old Joey, who was involved in the fight, said. “They didn’t go for me.”

Tuesday night, he told PIX11 News — with his mother’s permission — that he couldn’t believe he wasn’t also placed in cuffs.

“I didn’t understand why,” the teen said. “I even offered to get handcuffed as well.”

Joey’s friend, Sienna Freidinger, filmed the video. She said the officers’ responses weren’t “fair.”

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/n...nj-mall-scuffle-ignites-critique-of-policing/
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That's actually a better video. The Hispanic kid was just as aggressive and should have been cuffed.
 
dseag2 said:
As usual. So very sad that Black mothers have to have "the talk" with their sons about how to survive in our society.

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This could have been posted in Tired of sensational Headlines because I think the headline was for sensationalism.

Strickly watching the video. Eliminating the bias by news anchors & the mother. Rather than condemn the police officers IMO they should receive an accommodation for quick decisive action that was ended with no physical injury or death.

What I saw was two people fighting, a crowd watching. Not teens, not black or white just two people fighting that in a split second the police that responded needed to do something.

My reason for an accommodation.
That something was to take control of the situation. I didn't see hesitation trying to decide which officer would grab which combatant. I saw it took 5 seconds to accomplish getting control of a violent situation. I didn't see use of a gun, taser, baton, or night stick. Just the training I believe they would have been given.
 
I'm so glad for cell phone video-ing so the truth can be exposed. I remember when I was young 'learning' that it was okay if the police arrested an innocent black man 'because he's probably guilty of something else anyway'.
I have a Black Lives Matter sweatshirt and I'm afraid to wear it out of the house. Even in my own house, there were workmen in the house (new windows!) this week and I was careful to put my fleece vest on over my sweatshirt.
 
Aunt Bea said:
It's sad that our society is not as quick to condemn the children's behavior in the mall as they are to condemn the responding police officers.
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Right, the news anchors are all about the police being investigated because they handcuffed a black teen who was in a fight and not the white kid. Ebone thinks the police should be fired and the black teen keeps saying his friend was being teased so, "I jumped in and it turned into a fight.." Right. He used his fists when words would have been just fine.

At no time has anyone said maybe they shouldn't have been fighting in the mall. That doesn't seem to matter at all, it's just a matter of everything being "fair." They all sound like five year olds saying they shouldn't be punished for stealing toys because Johnny down the street stole toys and he didn't get punished. What do we say to that five year old? We don't care! You stole! Stealing is wrong and you will be punished.

I'll never forget when my brother got in a fight in front of the school. My parents were furious. They weren't interested in the reason why or whether or not the other boy got in trouble. They were so mad I was afraid to come out of my room for days.

Police are going to start checking race before they step in and if a black person is involved they'll just pretend they have something more important to do. Then we'll all be less safe.
 
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HoneyNut said:
I'm so glad for cell phone video-ing so the truth can be exposed. I remember when I was young 'learning' that it was okay if the police arrested an innocent black man 'because he's probably guilty of something else anyway'.
I have a Black Lives Matter sweatshirt and I'm afraid to wear it out of the house. Even in my own house, there were workmen in the house (new windows!) this week and I was careful to put my fleece vest on over my sweatshirt.
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What did you see in the video?
 
It seems as though nearly every time there is a sensational news report about the police "overreacting" in a situation involving a Black, the videos show that person acting in a belligerent manner, and refusing to cooperate with the police. Perhaps if some of these "victims" behaved and followed the cops instructions, such incidents would be rare.

All this "anti-police" attitude is doing is to increase the crime and killings occurring in the lower income neighborhoods, and making the police less willing to respond quickly to those areas. People should be careful of what they wish for....as they may get it.
 
Nathan said:
Prejudice is deeply en-grained in the psyche, most people will deny that it's there. Even with "enlightened" folks that make a conscious effort to treat people equally....the prejudice is hardwired
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Absolutely, I know I have it. Nothing I can do about the hardwiring thing, just be aware of it and try not to act on it, be careful not to treat people differently or bad.

Oh, and that link goes to a really good article, I suggest folks click on it.
 

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