Brexit: Flying to the U.S.

oldman

oldman

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This question is especially directed to the good people living in England. How or will Brexit have an effect on people wanting to fly to the U.S.?

I have heard from different pilots that Brexit may change plans for those people that live in England and desire to fly to the U.S.
 

There's not supposed to be any change whatsoever... Brexit is just about the way the Uk deals with Europe essentially..in fact if anything we are likely to gain more from the USA, and vice versa than we already are now..

I'm very happy that the Members of parliament voted tonight to a NO... NO Deal EVER..Brexit...so it's back to the drawing board and looks like we'll not be leaving at the end of the month after all, and things will be further extended.

can't say much more than that unfortunately..due to the no politics discussion rule, but I hope that answers your question Oldman :D..
 
So, are you saying that England is staying with the EU?
 

NO, absolutely not, but we are supposed to leave at the end of this month, but we can't leave on a No Deal basis..which is what we had, so now MP's have voted for No deal to be taken off the table.. which means more discussions will take place extending our leave date!!

That's as basic as I can put it without going into a great big politcal discussion
 
I'm in U.S., but have been following Brexit news for some time. You have probably read articles showing scenarios for 'no deal' exit that would, in fact, affect air transport. Politico has an article on that showing how connectivity within Europe (as far as flights), would be affected and the ability to add new routes stopped. But again, it's a 'no deal' scenario which was just voted against the other day.
On the positive side (for the U.S.), the pound sterling has been hit hard, and it's a 'bargain' to travel to the U.K. If a deal finally comes through, the pound will rally a bit (maybe 5% according to some currency experts).
 
I wish we could discuss the Brexit issue here, as I am totally befuddled by it. I don't really understand what the European Union is, for starters.
 
Here is an article from my union that may interest you and is the reason why I even raised the question. I did not regard it as political, but if the moderators do, then they are free to remove it. It was not my intention to make a political issue out of this conversation. I hope that you are able to view the article. I found it to be quite interesting and start some of us to think about what "may be."

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com...xit-affect-commercial-flights-in-america.html
 
I believe in 2020?, Americans will need visas as well as a passport to visit Europe. I assume the UK will also require them.
But as far as Brexit is concerned, it seems the UK is fractured. It can't remain in the EU, while 50% of the nation wants out, but it can't leave because 50% of the nation wants it to remain. To me, it seems as though there is a frustration, in the UK, that "the good life" has passed from the grasp of most. And that loss is blamed on the EU.
 
hollydolly said:
As for relations with the USA...we're told things will just be strengthened, but then like everyone we're lied continuously by politicians so who knows what the truth will be..

I did find this however...


https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-01-21/5-reasons-americans-ought-care-about-brexit
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So, after reading the article, I have to wonder what's the upside for those that wanted Brexit? It appears to me that this may be an issue that was voted for to try to make some of us suffer or maybe "suffer" is a bad word,perhaps I should have wrote some type of a payback. It appears to me that most everyone is going to come out on the losing end one way or another. I don't think this is a political issue at all, even though politics in involved. To me, it seems to be more of an economics issue. It appears that there's more to lose than to gain, but I may be speaking through my hat.

I have to be completely honest here. I have not followed Brexit from the beginning, so I am kind of picking up on it in the middle and because of that, I am still somewhat confused as to what the expectations are on both sides. Am I making any sense to you people that do understand Brexit?

What will become of the sterling? Is it expected that the pound will be devalued or gain ground against other currencies? This almost sounds like what we here in America call. "deflation." It's very confusing. Much like the royalty line and how the different positions become what they are; e.g.; how does a Princess become a Queen or a Prince become King? And, what the heck is a Baron, Duke and an Earl? Don't even try to explain that to me. When I was in England just a few years ago and when I would buy something, I just held my money out and told the clerk to take what I owed.
 
In fact the rub here is that the public were lied to..or should I say misinformed, or not informed at all when the went to the polls to vote to leave or remain in the European Union, and I believe if there was to another vote today there would be many more voting to remain..

However in a very tight nutshell..the reason that so many people voted for brexit was simply because we've lost control of our own borders.. we can't breathe without Germany telling us how and when....

Our open borders have caused huge problems here with uncontrolled immigration.. and hospitals, schools, housing is are in dire danger of collapsing, .. people waiting 6 months for treatment for Life threatening illnesses for example ..pushed the hand and hearts of the British people to try and regain control of their own country again...

We're told that economically we'll eventually gain, ..but we can only wait and see... we have no more information than anyone else in the world reading in the media.. it's all been a huge shambles, not helped by a stumbling Prime Minister who is determined despite everyone else, to do things how she would like to do it...
 
OK, so now it’s all beginning to make sense. I read the same in another article that also stated that if the vote were held today, Brexit would probably be voted to be kept. You seem to be very astute with issues in your country.

I don’t follow politics, but do try to keep up with economics. I majored in chemical engineering in college and a second major in economics. The two doesn’t hardly fit, do they?
 
hollydolly said:
In fact the rub here is that the public were lied to..or should I say misinformed, or not informed at all when the went to the polls to vote to leave or remain in the European Union, and I believe if there was to another vote today there would be many more voting to remain..

However in a very tight nutshell..the reason that so many people voted for brexit was simply because we've lost control of our own borders.. ....Our open borders have caused huge problems here with uncontrolled immigration.. and hospitals, schools, housing is are in dire danger of collapsing, .. people waiting 6 months for treatment for Life threatening illnesses for example ..pushed the hand and hearts of the British people to try and regain control of their own country again........
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Yes. There are some parallels of Brexit to the immigration concerns in the U.S., and the economic concerns with China. Also, some good old-fashioned nationalism. Same issue that many countries are facing, but severely complicated by all the 10's of thousands of contracts that are tied to being an EU member. People are the same all over the world --- they start the flag waving and make patriotic gestures for their country, but are totally uninformed as to how business/banking/currency/macro (and micro) economics are impacted.
Unfortunately, the economists believe (and of course, could be wrong), that once Brexit happens, The UK economy will be negatively impacted. Lower GDP, devalued currency, and a lot of costs increasing. For example, did anyone realize that the UK is one of the largest trash exporters in the EU, and it's going to cost you dearly to keep exporting that trash. The tarrifs on rubbish are projected to rise exponentially. To use the expression: ''who woulda thunk it?".
 
What a mess. I wonder if travel between the U.S. and Britain will be impacted? Does this mean no tourism for a while?
 
See, the part that I don’t get (understand) is why when England exits the EU will or would the currency be devalued and why?

You are so right. England is experiencing some of the same disastrous issues that the U.S. is experiencing with immigration. We spend probably the better part of our budget on immigration and the issues surrounding it, along with the wars and healthcare than any other budget items.

I really wish we could straighten out the immigration issues, so that we could find some middle ground that would appease the majority.

One of the items on my bucket list is no longer available to me. I had always dreamed of flying on the Concorde after my retirement. What a magnificent plane. What I wouldn’t have given to be able to be in the cockpit until it reached it’s cruising altitude.
 
oldman said:
See, the part that I don’t get (understand) is why when England exits the EU will or would the currency be devalued and why?
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First, do I assume you realize UK kept their currency and did not go with the Euro? No one knows what will happen to the currency, for sure. Currency is very complicated. I looked into this, at length, years ago, thinking I would dabble in investing in currency. Gave that up quickly. It's not possible to give you a short answer as to why currency changes. If you're interested in what most people would think is a very dry subject:
Advantages and disadvantages of devaluation | Economics Help


 
retiredtraveler said:
First, do I assume you realize UK kept their currency and did not go with the Euro? No one knows what will happen to the currency, for sure. Currency is very complicated. I looked into this, at length, years ago, thinking I would dabble in investing in currency. Gave that up quickly. It's not possible to give you a short answer as to why currency changes. If you're interested in what most people would think is a very dry subject:
Advantages and disadvantages of devaluation | Economics Help
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yes indeed we did retain our own currency against the European Union adopting the Euro, thank goodness we did, the Euro devalued just about everything when it was first adopted... and this of course means we don't have any problems with returning to Sterling after we eventually divorce the EU...

Do remember though , we as a country have only been a member of the EU since 1975, The common market as it was then.. . We were promised the same type of wonders then to join as we are now for leaving.. no-one can know exactly how this will play out in the future much less us Brits, whose quality of lives will all depend on it..
 
"This question is especially directed to the good people living in England. How or will Brexit have an effect on people wanting to fly to the U.S.?"


I'd like to answer your question, but I'm not qualified as I live in Scotland.
 
Laurie said:
"This question is especially directed to the good people living in England. How or will Brexit have an effect on people wanting to fly to the U.S.?"


I'd like to answer your question, but I'm not qualified as I live in Scotland.
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LOL...I should have noticed that, I'm usually first to pick up on that being a Scot myself but living in England... :D
 
retiredtraveler said:
First, do I assume you realize UK kept their currency and did not go with the Euro? No one knows what will happen to the currency, for sure. Currency is very complicated. I looked into this, at length, years ago, thinking I would dabble in investing in currency. Gave that up quickly. It's not possible to give you a short answer as to why currency changes. If you're interested in what most people would think is a very dry subject:
Advantages and disadvantages of devaluation | Economics Help
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I read the article. It really does sound like what we here in America call, “deflation.” If the price of goods going out of your country cost less than the cost of the same good produced here in the U.S., that may cause some fluctuations in currency rates. Years ago when the Japanese Yen was really high, I traded dollars to buy yen. Actually, I relied on my broker’s guidance to do my trading, but we made money. No, I didn’t get rich. I really did it just to try to learn what all was involved when trading currencies. I made a few bucks and got out. That was my only effort trading currencies. I didn’t like doing it and at that time thought it to be very risky.

I find this Brexit issue to be interesting. I wished that I would have started reading about when it was first being thought about, but I had the wrong impression of what it was all about.

Would it be possible for someone to tell me in a short story what brought this all about? If not, I guess that I could get the answers on the internet.
 

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