'Canada' Loves Nazis?

No big deal. If you think there's nothing more to be said, then don't say it. However, I do not see that as a reason for restricting other people's free speech.

If anyone wishes to carry on, who are you to say they should not?
 

No big deal. If you think there's nothing more to be said, then don't say it. However, I do not see that as a reason for restricting other people's free speech.

If anyone wishes to carry on, who are you to say they should not?


Never said anyone couldn't continue talking did I? I 'asked' if it's time to shut it down.

Do you have anything new ideas or thoughts on the matter to offer? Do you have any comments on the numerous links and facts that I've proffered here? Have you looked at any of those links? What are your feelings on a government that refuses to uphold in principal the very kinds of laws that exist in it's own country? Any thoughts on the 42 people who were deliberately burned to death by those neo-Nazi's in Odessa? What are your thoughts on a government that funds the overthrow of an elected government? What do you think about mainstream media not giving people ALL the information that is easily available on a situation that has as much importance as this one?

I think that the safety of the world could very well be at stake as the situation in Ukraine/Russia and with American meddling carrying on and now the Canadian governments 'brown nosing' support, so I have no problem talking about this stuff. I only suggested that as it seemed all had been said and there was a lull, perhaps 'maybe it's time we shut this down'. But you go for it and bring along more information to further our understanding.
 
I see where most parties are coming from. Russia not only has history with NAZIs they are trying to drum up support and sympathy for THEIR causes. I see the US voting against it because we are the United States, not the United Nations. The UN produces resolutions and defacto treaties which the US Senate must approve for the US to follow. It's a slippery slope in multiple ways including you open the door even more to UN rule, not the US legislature, president or people. Also by singling out one party it opens the door to subjugating another party to similar resolutions which in turn could be used by the UN or a one world government to pick off opposing parties and thought one by one.

Just because one is against a particular piece of legislation doesn't not mean they are against the spirit of a law/resolution or do not already have such policies in place.
 

Do you mean when Russia had to stop the Nazi's from overthrowing Stalingrad? Considering how many died in those five months, I'd have a problem with Nazi's, 'neo' or otherwise, on my doorstep. Wouldn't you? And what have you read in the way of Putins speeches and answers to the questions we all want to know? What he is hoping will happen is that ALL countries learn to respect one another, do business reasonably, with one another and for each country to respect the autonomy of every other country. I've read a few speeches and that's what he is saying.

Why the USA didn't sign that resolution is because they have been funding and advising those neo-Nazi's who took over Ukraine. Can't give them money and then sign a resolution calling for Not Supporting Them, right?

You want to talk about 'subjugating' by any one party? You've just described the modus operandi of the American government. I don't know if you are American, but if you are, that is how your country operates. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Libya, Syria, Cuba, Iran. Sometimes its with wars that America starts then stops when the country is in shambles or it's done with sanctions. And now Russia is in America's sites.

Behind the scenes, America puts pressure on other countries to go along with their sanctions. France and Russia had a contract that they signed a few years before this all started. France was going to build two ships for their navy. The Russian sailors over the past four months have been training on it to take it home and it was to have been delivered a couple weeks ago. America pushed France to refuse delivery (because of the sanctions you know), and it was anybody's guess whether the ship would be delivered and at the last minute, France refused to turn it over despite the contract and I believe payment had been accepted for it. They will be fined and penalized for breaking this contract which was worth $1.24 billion.

The back story is that in June, America slammed France with a $9 billion dollar fine because they did business with Sudan, Iran and Cuba. But the record now shows that they told France, that if they don't honour the contract, America will kindly waive $8.1 billion dollars of that fine, otherwise it's going to cost them $9 billion. I'm not a law expert but I read one journalist calling it 'blackmail'.

So which country is actually guilty of subjugating others?

When the UN, the gathering of all the countries of the world and with a clear majority, sign a resolution to not support the 'descendant' of one of the most vicious and violent political groups in the history of the world, for any one country to not sign on without hesitation shows very clearly that they are in full support of that group. If nothing else it is hugely symbolic in a very positive way to sign on because it shows a united commitment to fight a known evil. And Canada and the US refused to sign it.

It seems to me that morally, there are no grey areas on a question like this. And there is no 'they support the spirit of the law' and I only make that statement because there is ample supported evidence of America's financial aid and guidance to that very same violent and vicious group. I don't make this up and I don't point it out maliciously because my own government is right up there, doing it's best to act the big shot and cause trouble. We are America's 'yes man' or 'groupie' or whatever you want to call it, in this endeavour.

Is this what we elect our governments to do? Do we want them going around the world making trouble and fomenting unrest everywhere? Putting us at risk of some kind of WW3?

Frankly, I don't know if this ship can be stopped before we all pay. History will have to play itself out I suppose in whatever way it does. But maybe, the more people who really know, maybe there is a chance that at some point in the future, there will be change. Maybe when a new society has to start up from the scraps of humanity that survive and can crawl out of the rubble. Do you think we'll have learned by then? That making Peace is better than making War?
 
Never said anyone couldn't continue talking did I? I 'asked' if it's time to shut it down.

Do you have anything new ideas or thoughts on the matter to offer? Do you have any comments on the numerous links and facts that I've proffered here? Have you looked at any of those links? What are your feelings on a government that refuses to uphold in principal the very kinds of laws that exist in it's own country? Any thoughts on the 42 people who were deliberately burned to death by those neo-Nazi's in Odessa? What are your thoughts on a government that funds the overthrow of an elected government? What do you think about mainstream media not giving people ALL the information that is easily available on a situation that has as much importance as this one?

I think that the safety of the world could very well be at stake as the situation in Ukraine/Russia and with American meddling carrying on and now the Canadian governments 'brown nosing' support, so I have no problem talking about this stuff. I only suggested that as it seemed all had been said and there was a lull, perhaps 'maybe it's time we shut this down'. But you go for it and bring along more information to further our understanding.

No, that's why I stopped posting on the original subject.

However, I have no objection to other people doing so, and, unlike you, have no desire to see the thread closed.
 
Why are you trying to paint a particular 'agenda' on me Laurie? It almost has a touch of animosity. I think if you go back and reread comments 47, 50 and 52, you will see that I wasn't trying to 'shut it down' arbitrarily but was responding initially to what appeared to me to be a fading interest. Not only that, but I also was becoming uncomfortable with the possibility that others here might view my comments as 'preaching' inasmuch as I seemed to be the only one bringing facts to the discussion which necessitates rather long comments.

And regarding your 'unlike you, have no desire to see the thread closed down', like I said, I started the thread and I can talk about this stuff at length.
 

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