Chicago Police Reported To Have A Blacksite For Prisoner Interrogation

What I AM very pleased about is Rahm Emanuel is now facing a run off with Chuy Garcia in April. I've never liked Emanuel...... He's an arrogant SOB... Much more Republican than Democrat... I'm hoping he loses.
 
QuickSilver said:
What I AM very pleased about is Rahm Emanuel is now facing a run off with Chuy Garcia in April. I've never liked Emanuel...... He's an arrogant SOB... Much more Republican than Democrat... I'm hoping he loses.
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You just refuse to talk about that clothes line. A typical liberal. Want to tell everyone else how to run their life, but wont do anything concrete to further the cause.

Drying your clothes on a clothes line will save lots and lots of electricity. And electricity comes from that evil coal. I would think you would be out there right now putting up that clothes line. But no, you would rather set in your home, warmed by coal, and peck on the puter and tell everyone else how to run their lives.

Gene
 
QuickSilver said:
Why are you so obscessed with my laundry??

:dunno:
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Back when we were discussing the merits of solor power, fossil fuels, etc. and I was talking about the conservation work I had donr on my farm. You said there was nothing you could do except maybe buy solar panels, but they were too expensive. I kept telling you that a clothes line would save a lot of electricity. And you kept avoiding the issue.

I planted 6,000 trees, you can put up and use a clothes line. There are things we can all do, within our means, to save energy. Dont just talk about it. Do something.
 
Of course the Chicago Police Department is denying what goes on there.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-police-deny-black-compound-215350183.html

Saw another report where they said if there's a problem with no officially logging in prisoners that is what should be investigated.

Also on the Chicago PD as a whole msnbc did a report on statistic manipulation including not reporting or ignoring crime for statistic sake. I think it was a Chris Hayes report. I've heard of statistic manipulation for decades. Locally we had departments who classify thefts or stolen items as "missing" among other things. The point being if they are actively falsifying or avoid use the official procedures would they think twice about not logging a prisoner in the system.
 
WhatInThe said:
Of course the Chicago Police Department is denying what goes on there.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-police-deny-black-compound-215350183.html

Saw another report where they said if there's a problem with no officially logging in prisoners that is what should be investigated.

Also on the Chicago PD as a whole msnbc did a report on statistic manipulation including not reporting or ignoring crime for statistic sake. I think it was a Chris Hayes report. I've heard of statistic manipulation for decades. Locally we had departments who classify thefts or stolen items as "missing" among other things. The point being if they are actively falsifying or avoid use the official procedures would they think twice about not logging a prisoner in the system.
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Oh come on...... These are upstanding Law enforcement officers.... It's a thankless job.. and yada yada yada.. They should be praised... and not condemned!! Police always get a bad rap... They are dealing with all the low life riff raff day after day. The people taken to that place likely deserve it!!!!! :oops:.. Wrong thread!! lol!!


The point I am making... and believe me.. I'm not defending the CPD.. BUT it seems that this PD is the only one people here want to dump on... WHY? Could it be that it feels kinda like you are dumping on President Obama because he lived in Chicago? Why are you not defending the CPD for doing what they need to do to keep the criminals in line? Or at least attempt to... I know that if it were any other place but Chicago.. the Obama haters here would be defending their actions to the hilt..
 
QuickSilver said:
Oh come on...... These are upstanding Law enforcement officers.... It's a thankless job.. and yada yada yada.. They should be praised... and not condemned!! Police always get a bad rap... They are dealing with all the low life riff raff day after day. The people taken to that place likely deserve it!!!!! :oops:.. Wrong thread!! lol!!


The point I am making... and believe me.. I'm not defending the CPD.. BUT it seems that this PD is the only one people here want to dump on... WHY? Could it be that it feels kinda like you are dumping on President Obama because he lived in Chicago? Why are you not defending the CPD for doing what they need to do to keep the criminals in line? Or at least attempt to... I know that if it were any other place but Chicago.. the Obama haters here would be defending their actions to the hilt..
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Right now let's face it a police department black site is something new besides the unfortunate "usual" abuses. And if true practices going on like this in the same building district/precinct would mean the higher ups some where knew. The big issue in this story beside physical treatment would be to make sure a suspect/prisoner is put into the system as soon as possible.

There have been numerous other police abuses/department in the news of late including LAPD officers shooting/over shooting suspects unnecessarily-then 'cleared'. Phila police got caught on video apparently lying about a suspect reaching for gun. The Miami Beach department got caught using poorly chosen pictures for target practice. In the Ft Lauderdale area a cop beat/harassed a homeless guy at a bus stop and a Broward jail employee got caught dragging a mental patient/defendant through a hallway. Unfortunately this is the usual stuff. But a black site or unofficial jail that's news worthy for now.
 
Personally, I truely believe that if the "Black Site" were in Birmingham Alabama, Miami, Florida, or even Phoenix Arizona... it would be aproved of by some here.. It would be seen as the police doing what they needed to do to handle the criminal element... BUT.... because it's Chicago....this is a bad thing. Again... I'm not defending the CPD... Just pointing out some double standards. AND... I'm still saying it's because Obama is from Chicago.. so anything and everything that can paint Chicago in a bad light is something that just might be tied to the President.

To me it's just more fascist cops making their own rules and breaking laws.
 
But a black site or unofficial jail that's news worthy for now.
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I would have thought so. I fail to see why this issue isn't being taken seriously because if it is true, it is a denial of civil rights and liberties and makes a mockery of the phrase "Land of the free". It should be above partisan politics.

To me it's just more fascist cops making their own rules and breaking laws.
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Just? There's nothing just about this allegation. :eek1:
 
QuickSilver said:
Personally, I truely believe that if the "Black Site" were in Birmingham Alabama, Miami, Florida, or even Phoenix Arizona... it would be aproved of by some here.. It would be seen as the police doing what they needed to do to handle the criminal element... BUT.... because it's Chicago....this is a bad thing. Again... I'm not defending the CPD... Just pointing out some double standards. AND... I'm still saying it's because Obama is from Chicago.. so anything and everything that can paint Chicago in a bad light is something that just might be tied to the President.

To me it's just more fascist cops making their own rules and breaking laws.
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Chicago has a "reputation" for a reason other than Al Capone or Daley & Kennedy. By the late 1990s and early this century Chicago was statistically one of the most corrupt departments by complaint in the country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/us/15chicago.html

 
Dame Warrigal said:
I would have thought so. I fail to see why this issue isn't being taken seriously because if it is true, it is a denial of civil rights and liberties and makes a mockery of the phrase "Land of the free". It should be above partisan politics.





Just? There's nothing just about this allegation. :eek1:
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Yes JUST.... Many of the police here are out of control and have taken on a military presence. The Black site shouldn't surprise anyone.. I'm not shocked at all.. In fact, I would be willing to bet that Chicago isn't the only big city that has one... it's the only one that has been found out about.
 
QuickSilver said:
Yes... because there are no mobsters or crooked politicians in NYC... or Jersey?? Bridgegate anyone? lol!!
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It's not just routine political corruption. When the Chicago Police Department gets the most complaints per population there is something wrong there. The MOST. Read the title of the NY Times article again-Chicago police EXCEED the national average in police abuse complaints/cases.
 
WhatInThe said:
It's not just routine political corruption. When the Chicago Police Department gets the most complaints per population there is something wrong there. The MOST. Read the title of the NY Times article again-Chicago police EXCEED the national average in police abuse complaints/cases.
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I agree... these are nasty cops and the whole department should be canned... and started from scratch... They all need to go..
 
The complaints about the domestic mainstream media are validated more everyday. It's pretty bad when local media is out done by the international press. Ok they didn't initiate the story but at least follow up on it.

http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/guardian_homan_square_chicago_media.php

Setting aside things like budgets I think politics plays a huge role in mainstream media news coverage in that they don't want to alienate any sources they have on a particular topic. They rather have smaller less significant stories year round making it seeeeem like they have it covered.
 

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