Chopping down the Hadrian's Wall Tree

Scum! Hope this is costing them a fortune in legal bills, since the legal penalty will probably be small. Wonder if they managed to keep their jobs, family and friends.
 

Jules said:
Scum! Hope this is costing them a fortune in legal bills, since the legal penalty will probably be small. Wonder if they managed to keep their jobs, family and friends.
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I would hope so.... because as you say Jules the likelihood is that the penalty will be small .despite the country being outraged at this senseless vandalism..
The tree stood alone for 100 years butted up against Hadrians wall.. an Iconic and historic feature
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What would be 'the appropriate punishment'?

@HD..was the tree "in the national trust"
That they could " put a value to it"
That they would have to re-pay?

It 's really disheartening..
There are not 'enough words':-\ :-\
that I have for them.
 

I’m a bit confused by the timeline reported in various news articles. They all seem to claim the tree was around 100 years old, but I’m fairly sure it’s much older than that.

Back in the 14th century, Robin Hood personally prevented that very same tree from being chopped down. It’s right there in the historical documentary, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991). In fact, I believe the tree isn’t technically owned by the National Trust at all -- it belongs to Kevin Costner. You even see him say so in the clip below.

There may have been some boundary changes over the centuries, as the clip also seems to suggest that Nottinghamshire county boundary once extended so far north, it almost touched the Scottish border near the Roman remains of Hadrian's Wall!


 
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Since they caught the 2 unrepentant grinning moron faced perpetrators, and lots of Brits now know their names, where they live and their sorry attitudes, I'll be glad when I read how someone gives them pain. Likewise here in the USA West, each year one will read about a few urban cretins vandalizing damaging various world class famed park features. Most recently were some using stone cutting tools to extract ancient Native American artwork from boulders. Usually monetary fines are underwhelming so I welcome more pain from citizens to send a clear message.
 
You can't believe these 2,,Morons are the right name for them,. Despite having taken video of themselves chopping it down, then sending it to people.. then taking a huge wedge of the tree home in the back of one of their pick-up trucks... and sending a photo of it to contacts
The elder of the 2, 39 year old.. said he leaves the keys of his landrover in the ingnition so anyone who comes along can use it.
Said even tho' when pointed out that the Metadata on his phone showed he was within yards of the tree at the time it was felled... said... It wasn't me, I'm being set up...

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Idiots, and dangerous at ones at that !


... as an aside I think someone should check his birth certificate as well...he looks 59 not 39
 
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hollydolly said:
Update on this story...

These 2 have appeared in court today to chopping the century old tree down.. for no other reason than ''fun'' it would seem...


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Two groundworkers filmed themselves cutting down one of Britain's most famous trees with a chainsaw before boasting about their 'moronic mission', a court heard today.

Daniel Graham, 39, and Adam Carruthers, 32, from Carlisle, Cumbria, are on trial accused of felling the historic Sycamore Gap tree, which sat in a dip next to Hadrian's Wall in Northumberland, in an act of 'mindless vandalism'.

The friends allegedly felled the tree 'in a matter of minutes' having driven 40 minutes from Carlisle to the tree in the late hours of September 27 2023 in Graham's Range Rover.


After chopping down the Sycamore Gap tree – which had stood for at least a century – Carruthers, who had received a video of his young child from his partner, allegedly told her: 'I've got a better video than that.'

Minutes later, Graham sent a video said to show the pair felling the tree to Carruthers' phone, Newcastle Crown Court heard.

Graham and Carruthers are on trial accused of causing criminal damage without lawful excuse to the tree – to the value of £622,191 – and to Hadrian's Wall, a Unesco World Heritage Site, to the value of £1,144, caused when the tree fell across it.

On the first day of their trial, prosecutor Richard Wright KC told the jury that the pair showed 'expertise and a determined, deliberate approach to the felling.'

'First, they marked the intended cut with silver spray paint, before then cutting out a wedge that would dictate the direction in which the tree would fall,' he said.

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One of the men then cut across the trunk, causing the sycamore to fall, hitting the wall.

'Whilst he did that, the other filmed the act on Graham's mobile telephone.

'Though the tree had grown for over a hundred years, the act of irreparably damaging it was the work of a matter of minutes.

'Having completed their moronic mission, the pair got back into the Range Rover, and travelled back towards Carlisle.'

The pair are also accused of taking a wedge of wood from the tree after it was felled as a 'trophy' to 'remind them of their actions, actions that they appear to have been revelling in.'


Pair accused of felling Sycamore Gap tree were on 'moronic mission'
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My blood pressure goes high just thinking about this.
I hope they get prison for this.
 
The sad thing is, there are significant numbers of others with similar attitudes and lack of common sense. All are not merely of low intelligence as people due to neural plasticity, can develop flawed mental processes by their lifestyle, especially being around other like types and relatives. Group stupidity is like a contagious social disease. Making such worse in this era is the many that consume drugs that diminish their mental abilities even more. Those constantly dulling their minds with alcohol being most common. And some are naturally drawn to actions for shock sake, as though such will impress like moronic others how their peanut sized brain is larger than the pea brain of their buddies.

Today, news has an American tourist in Rome trying to climb over a spiked fence for a selfee that ended up impaled.

Screaming US tourist impaled on Rome’s Colosseum fence while possibly seeking selfie in horrifying scene

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