Christianity Without The Resurrection

fmdog44

fmdog44

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Just wondering how or if Christianity would have expanded without the resurrection. Thoughts?
 

If so you're left with a possibly deluded guy who was extremely selfless and good and wanted those who listened to him to be the SAME. Nope. Would never work without the main event
 
fmdog44 said:
Just wondering how or if Christianity would have expanded without the resurrection. Thoughts?
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Christianity models itself on Judaism which is the world's oldest monotheistic religion, dating back nearly 4,000 years. Followers of Judaism believe in one God who revealed himself through ancient prophets. The history of Judaism is essential to understanding the Jewish faith, which has a rich heritage of law, culture and tradition.
We know, of course, that the Jews did not accept Christ as the Messiah. Jews believe Jesus of Nazareth did not fulfill messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah. Judaism rejects Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, messiah or holy.
It's only speculation but it would be my guess that another form of Judaism might have occurred, just as the orthodox sect of Judaism did.
 

horseless carriage said:
Christianity models itself on Judaism which is the world's oldest monotheistic religion, dating back nearly 4,000 years. Followers of Judaism believe in one God who revealed himself through ancient prophets. The history of Judaism is essential to understanding the Jewish faith, which has a rich heritage of law, culture and tradition.
We know, of course, that the Jews did not accept Christ as the Messiah. Jews believe Jesus of Nazareth did not fulfill messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah. Judaism rejects Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, messiah or holy.
It's only speculation but it would be my guess that another form of Judaism might have occurred, just as the orthodox sect of Judaism did.
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Actually, Zoroastrianism is even older than Judaism (https://blogs.getty.edu/iris/in-search-of-one-of-the-worlds-oldest-religions/#:~:text=Sometimes called the official religion,the late second millennium B.C.E.).
 
officerripley said:
Actually, Zoroastrianism is even older than Judaism (https://blogs.getty.edu/iris/in-search-of-one-of-the-worlds-oldest-religions/#:~:text=Sometimes called the official religion,the late second millennium B.C.E.).
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Quite so, but Zoroastrianism is a multi-faceted faith centred on a dualistic cosmology of good and evil and an eschatology predicting the ultimate conquest of evil with theological elements of henotheism, monism, and polytheism.
Judaism, on the other hand, is the oldest monotheistic faith.
 
horseless carriage said:
Quite so, but Zoroastrianism is a multi-faceted faith centred on a dualistic cosmology of good and evil and an eschatology predicting the ultimate conquest of evil with theological elements of henotheism, monism, and polytheism.
Judaism, on the other hand, is the oldest monotheistic faith.
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Oh. (I guess being an atheist, I don't see much diff. betw. monotheism and the other isms. I'm not saying there's no diff.; I just can't see it.)
 
I don't doubt that there have been several ancient religions, while not wide spread have existed but have faded from existence. Some may have left a minutiae of clues as to their existence for religious scholars to explore. This, in no way answers the OP's question at all. Up to those who care to ponder.
 
There are those who would argue that The Resurrection never happened at all, but that the body of Jesus was moved by the Apostles to an unknown grave. Whatever, it has been the basis of Christianity and why it is perceived today as being evil is a conundrum.
 
Just wondering how or if Christianity would have expanded without the resurrection. Thoughts?

What is your motive for asking?
 
fmdog44 said:
Just wondering how or if Christianity would have expanded without the resurrection. Thoughts?
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So when you say "expanded" is it safe to say that the resurrection would be a big 'selling point' with prospective converts?

My view: I was raised as a Christian(Lutheran), went to Bible School, regular worship services, and for several years attended parochial school. So in my life Jesus, his ministry and ultimate crucifixion have been the important(to me) facets of my Christian faith. Whether or not he arose from the dead is immaterial, His soul being accepted into Heaven is sufficient.
 
Lewkat said:
That is not what I said, Sunny.
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You said "perceived as evil"
"it has been the basis of Christianity and why it is perceived today as being evil is a conundrum."
Do you mean it's been openly dissed by people? I also don't understand what you said. Explain, please.
 
Pepper said:
You said "perceived as evil"
"it has been the basis of Christianity and why it is perceived today as being evil is a conundrum."
Do you mean it's been openly dissed by people? I also don't understand what you said. Explain, please.
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Christianity is being perceived as evil by some other religions. The destruction of churches and artifacts are just one example.
 
I don't believe that the tenets of any religion have much to do with its appeal. I think it's is how well established it is within a culture., I don't know of any referendum where you were presented a menu of religions, and had to pick one. You grew up in a culture, which favored one brand of religious thought. That's why you don't find thousands of Shintoists shines in the US's bible belt.
 
All things perceived are only as real as you would have them to be. What is truth if not believed?
 

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