Climate Change

[BobF]

Sorry that you believe that the US ability to get into problems around the world is the problem. Don't you ever look at the charts that are so ready to look at that show our debts at 7.5 trillion when the Democrats took over the last two years of Bush's term, and that includes the debts accumulated over the years from about 1980 till then, but now with Democrat spending and Obama's uncontrolled spending it is over 18 trillion debt. That is just in the recent 8 years of additional debt.

Here is one chart that shows the swing of debt related to political relationships of the US. Lots do not like it but then truth often hurts. And for that US government agency you posted that says the US is as dirty as China. What can you expect from our current government that is busy pushing their idea of what is right and wrong. We no longer have an open government run by Congress. We have what has turned into a closed government that is run by the White House making demands then demanding the Congress pay for them, no debates about right or wrong.

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/...-to-gdp.html?federal-debt-to-gdp-politics.gif

Advisor Perspectives dshort

Federal Debt and Tax Brackets Debt-to-GDP The Historical Context The Political Context

 

[Debby]

Sorry that you believe that the US ability to get into problems around the world is the problem. Don't you ever look at the charts that are so ready to look at that show our debts at 7.5 trillion when the Democrats took over the last two years of Bush's term, and that includes the debts accumulated over the years from about 1980 till then, but now with Democrat spending and Obama's uncontrolled spending it is over 18 trillion debt. That is just in the recent 8 years of additional debt.

Here is one chart that shows the swing of debt related to political relationships of the US. Lots do not like it but then truth often hurts. And for that US government agency you posted that says the US is as dirty as China. What can you expect from our current government that is busy pushing their idea of what is right and wrong. We no longer have an open government run by Congress. We have what has turned into a closed government that is run by the White House making demands then demanding the Congress pay for them, no debates about right or wrong.

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/...-to-gdp.html?federal-debt-to-gdp-politics.gif

Advisor Perspectives dshort

Federal Debt and Tax Brackets Debt-to-GDP The Historical Context The Political Context

That's a great image that shows the debt to GDP Bob. But when I suggest that this all began 50 years ago, I'm talking about the attitude that the US has to use conflict or intervention as a resolution to disputes, raise and destroy other governments and inclusive of setting up military bases around the world. After all, the US has been supporting your military corporations very well for decades...debt, debt, debt! Remember, 27,000% profit in 50 years! That didn't happen because America is the gentle nation.

And there are only nine other countries that have bases in other countries. Russia's bases are mostly right around their country (which makes sense) and in Syria which has been an ally for years. Yours are all over the place. So you want to talk about costs, how about the costs of maintaining all of those? And Obama didn't set them all up by the way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_overseas_military_bases

And in all of that, the US has made a practise of supporting groups trying to overthrow governments like in Ukraine and in Syria and Libya. But Ukraine wasn't the first although the funding ($5 billion) started back in 1991 and Obama wasn't president than was he? http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/ Running other governments and supporting them costs money! Maybe that should end? Do you think?

And as far as your actual debt, well 2008 saw a financial disaster that reached critical mass under Bush and he simply handed the reins over to Obama who then rehired all the same financial monsters and shuffled them around to different positions and 'change' died. And your military continued to function around the world, and the bankers who 'owed so much' to Bush and past presidents and the Fed, got their bonuses......and here you are with an un-repayable debt.

Do you really think that the GHG's became an issue only in the last eight years? Seriously? Geeze, admit failings when and where they happen instead of trying so hard to be so partisan and then be glad that somebody is finally trying to help this planet regain health. Good grief, we're all responsible for the effects of climate change, including you. We all (no matter which administration or who we are) are to blame. There are very few that even make a serious effort to cut our own footprint down to a minuscule size. Actor Ed Begley is one of them who walks the talk....do you? I know I don't do nearly as good as folks like him although I do the easy stuff like most of us.

 

[Debby]

I think the world is at a turning point and we have the capability of creating a better place, a better planet to live on. But everyone, every government has to have the will to live according to international law, respect for one another's differences and a desire to benefit all, equally. Part of that by the way, the part about living according to international law and respect are two things that Putin and Lavrov have called for repeatedly over the past couple of years. Repeatedly. And the response is disrespect, sanctions.

The US has so much to offer the world, due in part to size and then too the gathering together of so many individuals with so much to give. But what I see around the world and in the US in particular, is a protectionism kind of policy and frequently to the detriment of other nations and too often, for the sake of personal benefits of those in authority over us. Lobbyists, politicians and investors in (deadly equipment and support services) are laughing all the way to the bank. At the very least, the citizens should be getting thank you cards from them because taxpayers have been such a blessing to them!

When your Pentagon decides that the US will destabilize the ME, what on earth causes us all to stand around wringing our hands and asking, "how did this happen"? When my government axes our scientists whose sole job is to advise how to protect our environment, is it not ridiculous when he ignores the world, as everywhere else, the talk inevitably turns to 'how to protect the environment'? Personal interests Bob and you and I are low on the totem pole of concerns.

If you aren't going to recognize any of this and are simply going to work at painting Obama as THE problem that's your prerogative. But our (the worlds/nations) problems didn't start when Obama was elected, they began long, long before that.