Consider this: Using the F-Word is not illegal but telling lies is

VintageBetter

VintageBetter

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As someone whose ex-spouse lied to her repeatedly, for years, every time he said "I love you" the last years we were together, I would much rather put up with hearing anyone say the F-word than put up with a liar.

Lying in contracts, business matters and on official documents is a crime. Cussing up a blue steak is not.

So, which bothers you the most? Lying or the F-word?
 

VintageBetter said:
As someone whose ex-spouse lied to her repeatedly, for years, every time he said "I love you" the last years we were together, I would much rather put up with hearing anyone say the F-word than put up with a liar.

Lying in contracts, business matters and on official documents is a crime. Cussing up a blue steak is not.

So, which bothers you the most? Lying or the F-word?
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I can relate, my ex-wife is a prolific liar, but always acted oh-so-proper about avoiding profanity...pretending to be the goody two shoes church mom.

So yea, I'll take a potty mouth over a phony person any day.
 

the .. SVENGOOLIE .. MOJO

But most all successfully / business men / Politicians / Lawyers are!
How about all the Famous who do Video Advertisements?
Let’s face it “Tongue in Cheek“ has become the Earths Present for the Universe.

The Radio and TV has been broadcasting at high power for over 100 years and
Is out there “For Over a Century“ of light years now. It’s very degrading.

Ever buy salted Spanish peanuts to just find out they are shelled peanuts.
Most all business partnerships break up due to theft and lies. Now LLP’s
 
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Ideally I would like a partner who does not lie to me and does not tell me to F-off! Both would be deal killers for me.

In a way had my ex started using profanity it might have been an early warning sign of her devious ways which, of course, included years of lies of omission, as well as openly false statements.

It’s not an either or situation, IMO. Best to avoid both profanity and lies. Neither are justified in civil discourse.
 
I promised both my wives that I would never, ever lie to them.
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Unless of course it was more convenient that telling the truth....

The F-word, like the N-word, is typically used in such a way to be offensive. It isn't the word that offends, it is the intent of the speaker..
 
I think one is as bad as the other. My dad used to say, "Liars will steal and stealers will lie."

My dad was very protective of his tools and when I was 12, I borrowed a screwdriver to work on my bike. I forgot to put them back on his pegboard so he noticed right away one was missing. I left it outside where I was working on my bike and it rained that night and it had a little rust on it. When he asked me if I used them, I said no and I knew I lied to him.,

Well, he found them and there was no doubt in anyone's mind that I had used them because it was only my mom and sister left and they didn't know one end from the other. (That's a joke.) He asked me again and this time I confessed and he still punished me by not allowing me to have my bike for 2 weeks. That's when he told me his meme.
 
FIrst place is LYING...can't stand a liar. Liars should be erased from existence. My two ex wives were the world's greatest liars.

Second place is Cussing, especially the F word. Those sounds are not pleasing to the ears or brain. Very annoying.
 
VintageBetter said:
As someone whose ex-spouse lied to her repeatedly, for years, every time he said "I love you" the last years we were together, I would much rather put up with hearing anyone say the F-word than put up with a liar.

Lying in contracts, business matters and on official documents is a crime. Cussing up a blue steak is not.

So, which bothers you the most? Lying or the F-word?
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Lying...by a hundred miles. I cannot stand it..it's like a physical pain to me when I know someone's lying to me....
 
oldman said:
I think one is as bad as the other. My dad used to say, "Liars will steal and stealers will lie."

My dad was very protective of his tools and when I was 12, I borrowed a screwdriver to work on my bike. I forgot to put them back on his pegboard so he noticed right away one was missing. I left it outside where I was working on my bike and it rained that night and it had a little rust on it. When he asked me if I used them, I said no and I knew I lied to him.,

Well, he found them and there was no doubt in anyone's mind that I had used them because it was only my mom and sister left and they didn't know one end from the other. (That's a joke.) He asked me again and this time I confessed and he still punished me by not allowing me to have my bike for 2 weeks. That's when he told me his meme.
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see, I don't agree that all thieves are liars., I'm sure there's many thieves who would fess up if they were confronted..... when you know someone is a thief, you can hide stuff from them.... you can't hide from a Liar.... they not only fill you full of false info... they insult your intelligence by thinking you're a fool... as well
 
You know talking about using the F word... which I use myself on occasion... but lately even celebrities are using it on stage. Example.. yesterday Adele.. swearing like a sailor on stage.. people don't pay to hear that.. and I get fed up hearing some say that we should accept it as a normal way of people expressing themselves.. well,I disagree. I don't want to be in a restaurant or a pub, and the next table are Effin' and Jeffin' every other word..

I live in a nice area.. the problem with it is that it attracts people on summer days.. from not so nice areas..

there was a classic example today. We were walking along the towpath at the side of the canal where I live, and people here are well spoken,. but there was 2 canoes, with 2 adults and 2 kids on each. They were obviously a group together. One female started suddenly shouting at the child who I guess was about 3 years old... Screaming at him.. '' gerroff, my effin' Glasses, you nearly broke them . you effin' little Fu**ker, and she's grabbed the little boy by the scruff of the neck and spun him round on the boat to face the opposite direction.

All the while the Child is screaming at the top of his lungs.. (this foul language and abuse of the child.. on a beautiful stretch of our river)... I said to my friend, that little boy will grow up with the horrors of boating, because of this... all he'll remember is being sworn at, hit, screamed at ( it's illegal to hit children here )

I actually took a photo of them, and the presumed father.. looked up at me from the boat , and smiled... in a kind of ''kids will be kids type of thing''.. but I was appalled.. not only at the loud swearing.. but the screaming at the kid, and the manhandling of him... but my point is that never ever when I was a kid did I ever hear an adult swear at anyone much less their children in public...
 
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so you can imagine the scene.. here's the pictures from today... not of the abusive woman..

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the 2 canoes were in the water right opposite this house ( not theirs )... and we were on the canal bank on the right

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We were on the skytrain here in Vancouver, BC and this young couple came on with a baby in the carriage. The father kept saying to the mother, " can you not get him (baby) to shut the f...up?" I was horrified and obviously staring and the father says to me, "What are you staring at?" My husband said to me just ignore him. To quote Pinky above in her quote, I was appalled! And when I got home, I phoned transit police that I think that this father would be trouble on the train. I don't know if anything happened. What did I expect to happen right??
 
Telling the police lies is illegal, but they can lie w no consequence. And no answer at all in response to their questions is taken as an assumption of guilt, but in the US we can remain silent and not be anointed w the presumption of guilt as long as we express that we are exercising our 5th Amendment right to stay silent.
 
Pinky said:
When I was living in Adelaide, I witnessed child abuse in the supermarket. A couple with 3 children were hurling swear words and smacking their children about. I was so appalled, I couldn't speak.
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Hi Pinky:. I was in a supermarket near my home and a woman in front of me had lost the plot with her little boy. I didn't think he was doing anything wrong and was laughing with a little boy. Well, she suddenly slapped him so hard across the face and he started crying, I turned to the lady standing behind me and said she should be reported, to which the woman said, "Keep out of it you might attract more than you bargained for". That poor little boy, imagine what he must get at home?
 
I watched a Sylvester Stallone movie. He had hostaged the city with a bomb and was in a Car in an underground Subway. He used the F word so many times in the Movie I never need hear it again. I am filled up with the F language used as a misnomer.
 
Pinky said:
When I was living in Adelaide, I witnessed child abuse in the supermarket. A couple with 3 children were hurling swear words and smacking their children about. I was so appalled, I couldn't speak.
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And you can't always do anything about it. In some communities you can call the police, but in others, no. The cities are too large. No one is going to come out to take a police report in those cities.
 
To everyone reporting child abuse in stores and public places:

Remember that nowadays, unlike in the old days, all these stores have cameras now. If you see this today you can and should make a police report because the police can get access to the videos.

Same if you see a hit-and-run accident. Maybe you didn't get the license plate of the car, but there are cameras outsides of stores now, and video doorbells on houses, so if you call it in after rendering aid to any victims and seeing that they get medical care, if needed, just give the police a description of the vehicle and they can get access to videos if they need to.
 
VintageBetter said:
And you can't always do anything about it. In some communities you can call the police, but in others, no. The cities are too large. No one is going to come out to take a police report in those cities.
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but they will in our Cities.. the police won't come if you're burgled or have your car stolen,,, but if there's a report of a child being abused, they're out very fast
 
I've dealt with many liars in my life, family, employees, and my ex, I hate it. I've also heard the F bomb my entire life, use it myself on ocassion.

I don't want to be around either if it's habitual, but will tolerate the F word, but will not tolerate a liar.
 
My ex was a gambling addict. She lied about stuff all the time. She even lied about things that didn't matter. Some of the lies were so stupid, I wondered why she would lie about it. Me- "Are you taking a shower?" Her- "no", as she steps out of the shower, dripping wet. I could never figure out why she would lie about insignificant things, when there was no reason to lie.
 

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