Construction begins on new border wall




"Until recent years immigration was mostly full legal."

Not true. There were 8,600,000 unauthorized immigrants living in the US in the year 2000, and another 1,600,000 illegal immigrants apprehended at our Southwest Border that very same year according to two sources!


Back in the 1980s, Reagan gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.
Supposedly that was to be the one and only time illegals would be
made legal and thereafter the border would be strictly controlled.
You see how well that worked out. This wall is yet another fairy tale.

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BobF: Your opening sentence implies a short time ago the way I understand it. But the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act was passed to address the growing illegal immigration population between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000. That's a lot of illegals.

This problem has been around for decades. Not just in "recent" times. Or due to recent administrations.



Great minds think alike... I was posting about Reagan while you were.

It's not PC to mention the "Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965"
which changed US immigration law from favoring European countries
which founded the nation, to favoring the third world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965


As the landowner in the parable of the wheat field said:

"An enemy hath done this."


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BobF: Your opening sentence implies a short time ago the way I understand it. But the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act was passed to address the growing illegal immigration population between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000. That's a lot of illegals.

This problem has been around for decades. Not just in "recent" times. Or due to recent administrations.

What some may imply what I meant is why I mentioned 1950 and 1960. Go back to my note in this thread of #23.
to get away from the year 2000. When the Bracero rules were stopped after the end of WWII was when the major run to enter and squat and demand welfare really began.

Many US and immigrants were unhappy with those efforts at the time.

I would like to see the US operate more like those folks in Denmark are doing.
 

When the Bracero rules were stopped after the end of WWII was when the major run to enter and squat and demand welfare really began.


WW2 was the beginning of the end.

Putin [proudly] says Communists won WW2. He's right.

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A few years back I was working with a Russian lady in Colorado. She was here legally, married and had children. She spoke highly about the US and our quality of life compared to her life in Russia. I think she was speaking of St Petersburg. Her biggest complaint about the US was that they were unable or not going to, accept her father into the US.

By her description living was much more restricted than in the US. Very small units for families. More like sheds in the US. So putin thinks he won WWll? let us hope those stats stay over in Europe. Australia, Canada, and the US still stand as the better places to live and our housing standards are much more delightful than most of the rest of the world.
 
In all my days, I've seldom heard such non-sense as coming from the anti-wall/pro-illegal people. The wall is intended to dramatically SLOW the tsunami of people. It would be nice if it could totally stop the illegals, but that's, of course, impossible.

People who say the wall will never work, is like saying since we can never stop bank robbers, we should do nothing to slow them down. Nonsense, I say. Banks have dozens of anti-robber technologies. Bullitt-proof glass, exploding dye packs, silent alarms, armed guards, cameras etc, etc.

The same philosophy applies to hardening our borders. Stronger, taller walls, razor-wire, infra-red cameras, thousands of new border guards, drones, Natl Guard watchers, high-tech devices to detect tunneling, U.S. Coast Guard to watch for and catch drug smugglers/illegals, and other secret technologies.

Additionally, there are hundreds of check points scattered along our interior highways, Immigration and customs Enforcement (I.C.E), raids on work places.

Already there are new and tougher laws to punish repeat offenders. We are now separating children from their parents and placing the children in safe, comfortable shelters, while the parents are housed in special detention facilities without any possibility of "bonding out". As word begins to spread, fewer and fewer even attempt to cross illegally

There may not be any perfect solution but every little bit helps.

What we CAN NOT do is post "WELCOME" signs that say, Come one, come all. No limits.
 
A few years back I was working with a Russian lady in Colorado. She was here legally, married and had children. She spoke highly about the US and our quality of life compared to her life in Russia. I think she was speaking of St Petersburg. Her biggest complaint about the US was that they were unable or not going to, accept her father into the US.

By her description living was much more restricted than in the US. Very small units for families. More like sheds in the US. So putin thinks he won WWll? let us hope those stats stay over in Europe. Australia, Canada, and the US still stand as the better places to live and our housing standards are much more delightful than most of the rest of the world.


Nations can be rebuilt from wars if their racial, cultural, moral and spiritual foundations are intact.

When Putin says Communists won WW2, he is referring to the cultural marxist degeneration
and destruction of the racial, cultural, moral and spiritual foundations of all Western nations
since WW2. There has also been economic destruction that has occurred over the past decades.
When I was a child, one man's blue collar salary could buy a house, support a stay-at-home
mom and several children. Try doing that today. The cultural marxist end game is flooding
the West with endless third world immigrants which will be the final death-knell.

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Not all of the US have turned their backs on God. But many have.

We should also redo some of the ways our government in the US operate. We need to have time limits on the Congress.

Senators should be limited to 3 terms. That would be 18 years.

Now also we should have a limit on the Representatives of 9 terms. Also 18 years.

We have representatives that complain about the wealthy ones in Congress that are messing things up. I know one of those is from California money and is one of the biggest mess ups in the Congress. Time for a change there.

Too many of the problems we have today are due to the miscalculations of the socialist types and union thuggery ways of making changes. All of the problems of our Congress need fixed. We need to get back to the Constitution and make sure the Congress votes per the electorate and not for some party and their ideas.
 
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This country (Britain) is the easiest country in the world for illegals to get into. They know their chances of being deported when caught are very slim.
Criminals escaping justice in their own country claim "I will not get a fair trial if you send me back" so they are granted asylum and continue their criminal activities here. They come here in their droves. The camps at Calais and other French ports are proof of how easy it is to get here and stay.
 
One thing I have noticed is that immigration issues have been hidden by the liberal media from the general population, and not only in this country. One thing that too many people don't understand is that numbers count and they are add up.
 
This country (Britain) is the easiest country in the world for illegals to get into. They know their chances of being deported when caught are very slim.
Criminals escaping justice in their own country claim "I will not get a fair trial if you send me back" so they are granted asylum and continue their criminal activities here. They come here in their droves. The camps at Calais and other French ports are proof of how easy it is to get here and stay.


One thing I have noticed is that immigration issues have been hidden by the liberal media from the general population, and not only in this country. One thing that too many people don't understand is that numbers count and they are add up.


Great and important comments.

The few nations in Europe who appear to be resisting or refusing the swarm of immigrants are in Eastern Europe... ironically former Warsaw Pact nations... like Hungary, Poland and Slovenia [former allies of USSR.] They also tend to be anti-EU and pro-Putin. So it appears to be driven by international politics.

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But these immigrants are not trying to get into Eastern Europe. They want to come to Britain because they know we are 'soft' with them here. Many get taught how to apply for and get benefits so that they need not work. many get priority over housing for them and their families.
Not long ago a TV celebrity moved out of London to the live in a country village. When he was asked by the media why he moved he said "Because here everyone speaks English"
 
But these immigrants are not trying to get into Eastern Europe.


Immigrants want to go where they can get the most welfare.
But the EU wants to redistribute them among all EU nations.

The EU tried to get ALL member nations to take in their quota of immigrants...
but Hungary's PM [and others in Eastern Europe] have protested.

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This country (Britain) is the easiest country in the world for illegals to get into. They know their chances of being deported when caught are very slim.
Criminals escaping justice in their own country claim "I will not get a fair trial if you send me back" so they are granted asylum and continue their criminal activities here. They come here in their droves. The camps at Calais and other French ports are proof of how easy it is to get here and stay.

But the very geography of GB should make it difficult for illegals. At least you don't have them swarming over the border since you are basically a large island.
 
Yes Britain is an island but there are thousands of lorries coming into our ports from mainland Europe every day and the port customs check staff are overworked and just cannot cope with the large amount of traffic. Many of these lorries are owned and run by people smugglers, some contain twenty or thirty illegals. For every one caught there is around a hundred that get through. Most of these illegals are from Eastern Europe, Hungary, Romania, Albania etc; Many of them travel across several countries to get to Britain. Why? Because they know the chances of them being sent back where they came from are very slim.
 
Most of these illegals are from Eastern Europe, Hungary, Romania, Albania etc; Many of them travel across several countries to get to Britain. Why?



Immigrants were illegally getting into Finland from Russia... but they were not ethnic Russians.
Immigrants from the Middle East were also illegally entering western Europe via Eastern Europe.
But most of them were going through Turkey.

The former head of NATO, Breedlove, said Putin had "weaponized" the illegal immigrants.
I'm not sure exactly what that means... Putin might be sneaking in a huge fifth-column
demographic army disguised as war refugees.

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...The former head of NATO, Breedlove, said Putin had "weaponized" the illegal immigrants.
I'm not sure exactly what that means... Putin might be sneaking in a huge fifth-column
demographic army disguised as war refugees.
"Weaponizing" the illegal immigrants means that Syria and it's key backer Russia are hiding criminals, extremists, and fighters, into the flow of immigrants in an effort to destabilize Europe. I first read about it 4 or 5 years ago when intelligence revealed communications describing it as the modern day "Trojan Horse".
 
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"Weaponizing" the illegal immigrants means that Syria and it's key backer Russia are hiding criminals, extremists, and fighters, into the flow of immigrants in an effort to destabilize Europe. I first read about it 4 or 5 years ago when intelligence reveled communications describing it as the modern day "Trojan Horse".



And cultural marxist fifth-columnists already entrenched in western Europe media and government
are helping Putin bring in that Trojan Horse.


Here is a quote from a 2016 BBC news article:

" Russia and Syria are deliberately using migration as an aggressive strategy towards Europe, the senior Nato commander in Europe has said.

US Gen Philip Breedlove said they were "weaponising" migration to destabilise and undermine the continent.

He also suggested that criminals, extremists and fighters were hiding in the flow of migrants."


more at link

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35706238

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I've said before, and I'll keep saying, that we are witnessing the downfall of The West.

It began with the radicalization of our youth by teachers and professors. The cancer has now metastasized.

I wish I could say more.
 
I've said before, and I'll keep saying, that we are witnessing the downfall of The West.

It began with the radicalization of our youth by teachers and professors. The cancer has now metastasized.

I wish I could say more.


I'll say more. The massive demographic army which is invading North America and Europe
is an asymmetric weapon of war. But because of western cultural marxist PCism... it is a
powerful weapon that can't be defeated [the enemy knows this.]

My take is...

This is the Gog/Magog globalist invasion spoken about in Ezekiel 38/39 and Rev 20:7-9.
Discussing religion is probably discouraged here and I will not belabor the point. But you
will not hear this from anyone but me. The Gog/Magog "war" is happening now and
the main theater of war is North America and Europe... because in them are the last
remnants of the Christian "camp of the saints" who Gog/Magog seeks to totally destroy.

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Many of us have been frightened for a very long time. We have tried and tried to get people the see what is happening. Instead of listening, the cultural Marxists just pushed their agendas harder. The enemy have backed us into a corner. Even an animal will fight when cornered and frightened.
 


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