Coronavirus

toffee

Senior Member
Location
uk
medical centre in brighton has closed its doors -which is bad thing to happen 'got more breakouts in some of
our hospitals not looking good here ...
 

Catlady

Senior Member
Location
Southern AZ
UPDATE ON CORONAVIRUS:

Coronavirus by the numbers
The total number of confirmed coronavirus 2019-nCoV cases across the world is 40,561 and 910 deaths have been reported. Japan's Health Ministry says another 60 people on Carnival Corporation's (NYSE:CCL) Diamond Princess ship have tested positive to bring the total number of people infected to 130. Capital Economics estimates the coronavirus will cost the world economy $280B in Q1 and send global GDP in reverse (quarter over quarter) for the first time since 2009. Still, the longer-term view from analysts isn't so gloomy. "We assume the virus will be contained soon, and that lost output is made up in subsequent quarters so that world GDP reaches the level it would have done had there been no outbreak by the middle of 2021," notes Capital Economics. The People's Bank of China is busy taking action to prop up the economy, injecting 1.7T yuan of liquidity into the market and instructing banks not to call in loans for companies based in the virus-stricken Hubei province.
 

win231

Senior Member
Location
CA
I just saw a news report that said the Princess Cruise ship is now a "Floating Incubator."
It reminded me of the Carnival Triumph cruise ship a few years ago where the plumbing quit working & it became a "Floating Toilet." Over 4,000 passengers slept on the upper deck in pouring rain.
If I had to choose one, I'd pick the "Floating Incubator." The other option would make me jump overboard.

Just makes 'ya wanna take a romantic cruise.....
 

medical centre in brighton has closed its doors -which is bad thing to happen 'got more breakouts in some of
our hospitals not looking good here ...
I looked up that story as I'm coming over in about 5 weeks. It says out of the 8 people in UK with virus, two are GP's. At this point, no cause for 'undue' concern. I'm in the group that believes that most western countries can contain outbreaks as we have much better tracking and facilities.
The article mentions:
"....Meanwhile, the Department of Health has introduced new measures in England that mean those in quarantine will not be free to leave their accommodation, and can be forcibly sent into isolation if they pose a threat.
The move comes after a passenger on the first UK flight from Wuhan, who is being held in quarantine on the Wirral, had been "threatening to abscond" despite signing a contract agreeing to the isolation period....".


I stated in a post the other day that I had every confidence that civil liberties would be suspended for carriers. Now, it begins (fine with me!).
 

AnnieA

Member
Location
Down South
I looked up that story as I'm coming over in about 5 weeks. It says out of the 8 people in UK with virus, two are GP's. At this point, no cause for 'undue' concern. I'm in the group that believes that most western countries can contain outbreaks as we have much better tracking and facilities.
The article mentions:
"....Meanwhile, the Department of Health has introduced new measures in England that mean those in quarantine will not be free to leave their accommodation, and can be forcibly sent into isolation if they pose a threat.
The move comes after a passenger on the first UK flight from Wuhan, who is being held in quarantine on the Wirral, had been "threatening to abscond" despite signing a contract agreeing to the isolation period....".


I stated in a post the other day that I had every confidence that civil liberties would be suspended for carriers. Now, it begins (fine with me!).
I was planning an April trip but am going to wait a year. Plenty of places to visit that don't require flying.
 
Bought a mask today. The CEO of CVS said today they are out of masks and some sites on line are "Out of stock." Better safe than dead.
You realize that just about any article you can read about masks shows they have little effect. If you're going to have one, you need one with a respirator, rather than a 'plain' mask. Many people do not use them properly. If you wear the mask, then pull it down to your neck, you've exposed your hands to whatever is on the mask. So, if you touch the mask, you have to toss it, wash your hands, and put on a new one.
 

StarSong

Well-known Member
We always keep a couple dozen masks on hand. They're mainly for when my husband is doing sanding or similar household projects.

I agree, with you @retiredtraveler. However, it's human nature to find comfort in doing SOMETHING to protect ourselves besides just washing our hands, should a viral epidemic hit the US.
 

win231

Senior Member
Location
CA
We always keep a couple dozen masks on hand. They're mainly for when my husband is doing sanding or similar household projects.

I agree, with you @retiredtraveler. However, it's human nature to find comfort in doing SOMETHING to protect ourselves besides just washing our hands, should a viral epidemic hit the US.
I use the masks when using my leaf blower (along with eye protection). The mask does prevent breathing in particles & dust. Viruses & bacteria are small enough to get past the material. These are cheap masks; not the ones used during surgery. Masks that protect from viruses are much-more expensive.
 

StarSong

Well-known Member
I use the masks when using my leaf blower (along with eye protection). The mask does prevent breathing in particles & dust. Viruses & bacteria are small enough to get past the material. These are cheap masks; not the ones used during surgery. Masks that protect from viruses are much-more expensive.
They're not perfect and won't catch every bit of nasty in the air, but are better than nothing if that's all folks can get.
 

C'est Moi

Dishin' it out.
Location
Houston Y'all
You realize that just about any article you can read about masks shows they have little effect. If you're going to have one, you need one with a respirator, rather than a 'plain' mask. Many people do not use them properly. If you wear the mask, then pull it down to your neck, you've exposed your hands to whatever is on the mask. So, if you touch the mask, you have to toss it, wash your hands, and put on a new one.
Exactly. The typical "particle mask" will not filter germs and bacteria so they are a total waste.
 

OneEyedDiva

Senior Member
Location
Nrw Jersey
The Corona Virus is a goldmine. (just in time to compensate for the increasing lack of interest in the flu shot)

1. Lots of scare advertising about how easy it is to get it, how sick it makes you, & how many people are dying of it.

2. Then: "Luckily we've developed a vaccine for it; we recommend everyone get it, especially the young, the old, & those with compromised immune systems." (which everyone has)

3. Even if the vaccine doesn't work & you still get the Corona Virus, you'll get well sooner.

4. Guilt advertising - If you don't get the vaccine, you'll make other people sick.

5. We care so much, we're offering free groceries to everyone who gets the vaccine.
Win23...Having had a career as a Disease Intervention Specialist for the state of N.J.’s, I remember when we were first notified about the HIV/AIDS virus. The head honchos came up from the state capital to tell us about a form of cancer, Kaposis sarcoma that presented simultaneously on the east and west coasts in two young gay men. CDC Epidemiologists were concerned and suspicious because KS was usually found in older people. At first I didn’t understand why our bosses thought it was important enough to make the trip up to talk to our staff about cancer since we followed up on STDs. Turns out the subjects had developed AIDS due to the HIV virus which wound up spreading rapidly, as you know. We lost all of our gay (fairly young) patients to the disease.

Some are not taking the Corona virus seriously when I think they should. After all, this is an airborne infection, whereas HIV is only transmittable via bodily fluids and look how widespread that became. Hearing about the amount of health workers sickened by this virus, let alone how quickly it's spread already, is a scary thing. My viewpoint as a former epidemiologist. I just hope it doesn’t come to the point it did in the series Containment. But could the show have been yet another example of fiction becoming fact?

 

OneEyedDiva

Senior Member
Location
Nrw Jersey
@OneEyedDiva - To go off topic for a moment, what a fascinating field of work yours must have been sometimes! Mounds of paperwork though, I'm sure, not to mention plenty of sadness and frustration, but you must have felt your work was truly important.
It was important work StarSong. We stopped the spread of many cases of syphilis, gonorrhea, other STDs and at some point, HIV. Our unit didn't always do the HIV follow up, we only did it for awhile before a separate unit was formed both on municipal and state levels. Our job consisted of interviewing and counseling patients, some of whom were very scared, some of whom were misinformed by their doctors, improperly treated and overcharged to boot. Then we had to bring in or refer their partners for treatment without saying who gave their names. Not easy when there's a faithful wife or husband thinking it must be a mistake. I remember this one wife, in particular who refused to come in for preventive treatment. Six months later, she called me in a panic. She was exhibiting signs of secondary syphilis.

When patients came to our clinic, we cleared things up for them (literally) and it was free. We were also responsible for following up on congenital syphilis babies and consulting with doctors, if it became necessary, about using the proper CDC treatment protocols. You'd be surprised how many doctors gave the wrong treatment and/or the wrong dosages. I'll never forget this one gay regular we had. His name was Larry. He was a good looking, friendly, courteous young man. He said he was going to sue his doctor for improperly diagnosing him with the HIV. Well, not long after, Larry died. It was sad to lose them one by one. But even with the frustrations and sad events, I loved my work. It was an interesting career for sure.
 

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