Covid... just trying to hold it together

Surprisingly, the test came back negative. Yea! I must be immune or something, having been around my husband all week with him sneezing like crazy. He did wear a mask the whole time, but still, it's surprising.
 

HoneyNut said:
You'd think so! In the beginning I expected it to be over by August 2020, I was so naively optimistic!
Last summer since I'd been vaccinated and cases were down, I'd looked into finally getting to go on a trip to Kenya and Tanzania, but the tour agency (which is based in South Africa) was rather discouraging about the situation there, so I didn't go.
Now I'm getting other people's holiday card/letters describing their summer travels (tho not to Africa) and I am so envious, I realize I should have at least gone somewhere.
But, I am feeling a huge reluctance to make an effort to actually go anywhere, which I hope will go away once I get to retire in a few months and covid becomes endemic (assuming I don't get too sick from a breakthrough infection of omicron, they seem to be saying we will all get exposed, and also apparently it is more likely to be bronchitis instead of pneumonia, which is good but I still am not looking forward to a bad case of bronchitis, I sure hope I get a light case when I finally do).
I'm wondering if it would be good for me to "travel" around my house, like spend a night on the couch, or two days sleeping in one of the other bedrooms and using the guest bathroom.
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It's a rather sad fact that some of us seniors may never get to see the end of this pandemic. I talked to a lady a few days ago and she told me that this pandemic will go on for 7 years. I asked her how she knew? She told me that her minister told her that it's in the bible. Go figure!
 

Packerjohn said:
It's a rather sad fact that some of us seniors may never get to see the end of this pandemic.
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Some of the news lately has been so great, I am feeling cautiously optimistic the pandemic will be over by April (maybe even sooner). There are multiple new medicines that will be available soon, and most everyone will catch omicron and then have both vaccine and natural immunity. My feeling right now is that I just need to stay safe for a couple more months until the medicines start being available, then I can go ahead and go out and catch omicron. Maybe there will be an extra booster before I catch it, I'd feel just a teensy bit more confident of getting a light case then.
Also, if all the young people catch it in the next month, we'll have a good bit of herd immunity to protect us seniors.
 
Flaneuse said:
Well - I think we all know why it continues to spread. If people would just get vaccinated....
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No, we don't all know that. If unvaccinated people are not sick with Covid, they can't be spreading it. Can't spread what you don't have.

Also, vaccinated people can get Covid and spread it. We've been told that getting vaccinated will ensure that if you get Covid, you won't get as sick. However, I'm not sure they had time to test the vaccine enough to come to that conclusion. And there's also the VAERS database, which reports those instances of vaccine-adverse events that have been reported to it.

"VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov."

[Added] As of today, the number of reported "vaccine adverse events" is 1,823,610. Note the above paragraph that states that the reports have "been estimated to account for only 1% ... of vaccine injuries."
https://openvaers.com/index.php
 
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Devi said:
No, we don't all know that. If unvaccinated people are not sick with Covid, they can't be spreading it. Can't spread what you don't have.

Also, vaccinated people can get Covid and spread it. We've been told that getting vaccinated will ensure that if you get Covid, you won't get as sick. However, I'm not sure they had time to test the vaccine enough to come to that conclusion. And there's also the VAERS database, which reports those instances of vaccine-adverse events that have been reported to it.

"VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov."

[Added] As of today, the number of reported "vaccine adverse events" is 1,823,610. Note the above paragraph that states that the reports have "been estimated to account for only 1% ... of vaccine injuries."
https://openvaers.com/index.php
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Well - I suppose we should just ignore the scientists and epidemiologists? After all, we have Dr. Google, right?
 
Devi said:
And there's also the VAERS database, which reports those instances of vaccine-adverse events that have been reported to it.
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I looked at the site, it says this about its data (the boldface type is their own bolding of the info):

Limitations
  • VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected. Instead someone who had or is aware of an adverse event following vaccination must file a report.
  • VAERS reports are submitted by anyone and sometimes lack details or contain errors.
  • VAERS data alone cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event.

    This specific limitation has caused confusion about the publicly available data, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. In the past there have been instances where people misinterpreted reports of death following vaccination as death caused by the vaccines; that is a mistake.

    VAERS accepts all reports of adverse events following vaccination without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS might represent true vaccine reactions, and others might be coincidental adverse health events not related to vaccination at all.

    Generally, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS reports alone.
 
HoneyNut said:
I looked at the site, it says this about its data (the boldface type is their own bolding of the info):

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VAERS accepts all reports of adverse events following vaccination without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS might represent true vaccine reactions, and others might be coincidental adverse health events not related to vaccination at all.

Generally, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS reports alone.
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True enough. But that doesn't mean there are absolutely no causal relationships. But, to each his own.
 

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