Cowboy Heros
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Smiling Jane
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My favorite cowboy when I was a kid was Red Ryder and Little Beaver. I had a Little Beaver t-shirt that I wore until all that was left was seams and big holes.
Our local Elks club bought an old building that had been a movie theater. On Saturdays they did matinees for us kids, and they were nearly always Westerns.
https://archive.org/details/RedRyderInStagecoachToDenver-AllanrockyLane1946
Our local Elks club bought an old building that had been a movie theater. On Saturdays they did matinees for us kids, and they were nearly always Westerns.
https://archive.org/details/RedRyderInStagecoachToDenver-AllanrockyLane1946
Smiling Jane
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Big A** Grin. Never missed an issue of their comic books. Thanks, Meanderer.
Big Horn
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There were some very fancy places. I linked to an interesting story with a picture. If after viewing it, you click next, you will get a view if the digs at Judge Roy Bean's saloon. It looks more like the one in Utah above. I've been in the Birdcage. I just wish that I could have been there on opening day, Christmas, 1881.
Smiling Jane
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Another B-movie cowboy star I loved when I was a kid was Lash Larue. I think his bullwhip fascinated me far more than he did, enough that my parents bought me a small bullwhip for Christmas one year. I got to be pretty good with it.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0479017/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0479017/
Smiling Jane
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Le sigh. I was so sure I was going to grow up and be a cowboy. Our funny dad always told stories about things he did when he was a little girl, so my brother and I both thought we would change. When we laughed about it to our mother at Dad's funeral, she said she didn't realize we were that gullible.
Big Horn
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Or have a reliable maid.
Smiling Jane
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I love it. Thanks.
Meanderer
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Tim McCoy
"At the Double Diamond, foreman Matt Brown found him a string of six horses, one being a “beautiful, blue eyed Appaloosie” compared to the others who “looked like Don Quixote’s rejects.” Brown didn’t inform the new waddie, that cowhands often had a bias against Appys and paints. He told Tim that the Appy was known to break lose in two and if he starts bucking, he’ll keep it up all day, so mount, do it gentle, do it quick and pick his head up firmly. Brown gave Tim a pat on the back and said “Good luck cowboy!” Tim eventually learned the ways of a cowboy riding his Appaloosa. The horse was an inspiration for a poem that young T.J. McCoy included in a self-published pamphlet of cowboy poems".
Appaloosie
You're the orn-yest, meanest cayuse ever born this side o' hell.
Why there's meanness just a-oozin' through your hide,
When your temper starts to bubble
You're a ring-tailed source o' trouble
And you sure can make a boy sit up and ride.
In the chill of early mornin', when we're saddlin' up to go
And I'm trying to make connections with my cack,
It's a prayerful sort o' minute
'Cause before I'm halfway in it
You bog down your head and try to break my back.
If I loosen up a minute fer to ease my tired joints
Then you grab your tail and pitch to beat the deuce
And the cause of this sun fishin'
Is your ingrown disposition
Oh! you wall-eyed streak o' meanness, Appaloose!
But fer all your darn fool actions, you're the top horse of my string
And I like your grit, you paint-splashed little scamp.
Why, you'll jolt me till I'm purple
On the long end of a circle
Then fer cussedness come pitchin' into camp.
When the herd is hard to handle and they're cuttin' forty ways
Then my other knot-head broncs hain't any use
But let the critters come a-tearin'
If it's you and me off bearin'
'Cause the cow hain't born can outguess Appaloose!
If the gang rides into dinner with their quirts a-swingin' free
And we race to see who'll be the first into camp
You sure settle to your knittin'
When you hear the old boy yippin'
And we quit 'em like a pay-car would a tramp.
When I'm called to join the roundup out across the Big Divide
I'll ride o'er that skyline trail without remorse
But if spirits have the savvy
I'll go through St. Peter's cavvy
Till I find my little Appaloosie horse.
Tim McCoy
"At the Double Diamond, foreman Matt Brown found him a string of six horses, one being a “beautiful, blue eyed Appaloosie” compared to the others who “looked like Don Quixote’s rejects.” Brown didn’t inform the new waddie, that cowhands often had a bias against Appys and paints. He told Tim that the Appy was known to break lose in two and if he starts bucking, he’ll keep it up all day, so mount, do it gentle, do it quick and pick his head up firmly. Brown gave Tim a pat on the back and said “Good luck cowboy!” Tim eventually learned the ways of a cowboy riding his Appaloosa. The horse was an inspiration for a poem that young T.J. McCoy included in a self-published pamphlet of cowboy poems".
Appaloosie
You're the orn-yest, meanest cayuse ever born this side o' hell.
Why there's meanness just a-oozin' through your hide,
When your temper starts to bubble
You're a ring-tailed source o' trouble
And you sure can make a boy sit up and ride.
In the chill of early mornin', when we're saddlin' up to go
And I'm trying to make connections with my cack,
It's a prayerful sort o' minute
'Cause before I'm halfway in it
You bog down your head and try to break my back.
If I loosen up a minute fer to ease my tired joints
Then you grab your tail and pitch to beat the deuce
And the cause of this sun fishin'
Is your ingrown disposition
Oh! you wall-eyed streak o' meanness, Appaloose!
But fer all your darn fool actions, you're the top horse of my string
And I like your grit, you paint-splashed little scamp.
Why, you'll jolt me till I'm purple
On the long end of a circle
Then fer cussedness come pitchin' into camp.
When the herd is hard to handle and they're cuttin' forty ways
Then my other knot-head broncs hain't any use
But let the critters come a-tearin'
If it's you and me off bearin'
'Cause the cow hain't born can outguess Appaloose!
If the gang rides into dinner with their quirts a-swingin' free
And we race to see who'll be the first into camp
You sure settle to your knittin'
When you hear the old boy yippin'
And we quit 'em like a pay-car would a tramp.
When I'm called to join the roundup out across the Big Divide
I'll ride o'er that skyline trail without remorse
But if spirits have the savvy
I'll go through St. Peter's cavvy
Till I find my little Appaloosie horse.
Tim McCoy
Pappy
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Smiling Jane
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I have this clock on my kitchen wall.
Smiling Jane
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Meanderer
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Thanks, Nancy, that has to be a rare picture of Kit Carson! I found a photo of "Kit Carson II", his Son wearing a coat, that was identified in other sources as "Dan Taylor" a friend of Carson. There is also a painting of "Kit Carson III" wearing a coat.
At the end the mystery was solved and it is Dan Taylor, not Kit Carson II, in the Picture below.
DanTaylor (1910)
A portrait of Kit Carson III (son of Willliam Carson and grandson of Kit Carson) in a coat similar to the “Kit Carson coat”, circa 1927. Note that this coat was actually owned by Tom Tobin, Carson III’s grandfather on his mother’s side. Scan number: 10053237
At the end the mystery was solved and it is Dan Taylor, not Kit Carson II, in the Picture below.
DanTaylor (1910)
A portrait of Kit Carson III (son of Willliam Carson and grandson of Kit Carson) in a coat similar to the “Kit Carson coat”, circa 1927. Note that this coat was actually owned by Tom Tobin, Carson III’s grandfather on his mother’s side. Scan number: 10053237
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Meanderer, I found that picture months ago, but didn't post it then, and didn't record the source.
Compared it to other photos and it *looked* like Carson, so I went ahead and posted it.Apparently it is in front of the Saguache Hotel, in Saguache, Colorado, 1924.
Saguache Chamber of Commerce (page down)
[But I don't understand the "III" after his name.
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Big Horn
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This is Kit Carson who died in 1868. It would have been impossible to take the photograph supposedly depicting Carson at that time. Those were the days of wet plate photography with long exposure times, so long that people always sat for photographs and wore unseen braces to keep them from wiggling. That's why the subjects always had that very stiff look.
Saguache, pronounced sa WATCH, has a small but excellent museum. The chamber of commerce's website notwithstanding, there's not too terribly much going on there, but it's a good place for a stop. Folks are certainly friendly.
The town of Bonanza, shown on the chamber's website, no longer exists except for a few scattered homes. We spent a day poking around mine dumps and generally exploring.
Otto Mears, also pictured on the chamber's website, was an important man in southwestern Colorado. After being mustered out of the army at the end of the Civil War, he came to southwestern Colorado, a good ways form Saguache, where he went into the toll road building business. He later switched to building railroads and built four in the area. He was an investor and promoter of mines, After the silver crash of '93, he made money in gold.
Josie Crum, no professional writer but chatty and informative, wrote several books about his railroads. I've linked to the two that I have and heartily recommend. Josie Crum was a widow of one of the Rio Grande Southern employees. I've also linked to one of his biographies which I enjoyed.
There are many other books on these subjects. Colorado history is fascinating as there is so much about both mining and railroads.
https://smile.amazon.com/Rio-Grande...preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
https://smile.amazon.com/Three-Litt...preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.amazon.com/Otto-Mears-P...preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
Saguache, pronounced sa WATCH, has a small but excellent museum. The chamber of commerce's website notwithstanding, there's not too terribly much going on there, but it's a good place for a stop. Folks are certainly friendly.
The town of Bonanza, shown on the chamber's website, no longer exists except for a few scattered homes. We spent a day poking around mine dumps and generally exploring.
Otto Mears, also pictured on the chamber's website, was an important man in southwestern Colorado. After being mustered out of the army at the end of the Civil War, he came to southwestern Colorado, a good ways form Saguache, where he went into the toll road building business. He later switched to building railroads and built four in the area. He was an investor and promoter of mines, After the silver crash of '93, he made money in gold.
Josie Crum, no professional writer but chatty and informative, wrote several books about his railroads. I've linked to the two that I have and heartily recommend. Josie Crum was a widow of one of the Rio Grande Southern employees. I've also linked to one of his biographies which I enjoyed.
There are many other books on these subjects. Colorado history is fascinating as there is so much about both mining and railroads.
https://smile.amazon.com/Rio-Grande...preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
https://smile.amazon.com/Three-Litt...preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.amazon.com/Otto-Mears-P...preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
Thanks Big Horn! It's starting to come together now.
So the timeline of the old TV show about Kit Carson (Bill Williams) was not consistent with that of the first Kit Carson? It seemed more recent in time, like contemporary with Wyatt Earp. Probably the only thing historical about it was the name, Kit Carson. Ha!
It has been fun to try and unravel this mystery.
So the timeline of the old TV show about Kit Carson (Bill Williams) was not consistent with that of the first Kit Carson? It seemed more recent in time, like contemporary with Wyatt Earp. Probably the only thing historical about it was the name, Kit Carson. Ha!
It has been fun to try and unravel this mystery.