Crazy Behavior at Airports & in Planes

How about "stop selling booze at all " ? Five years ? What sentence would you give for somebody who does something REALLY serious, like stabbing somebody, or ****** assault ? Pepper spray, in a confined space ??? Terrible idea. You need to rethink your comments, John. JimB.
You know once upon a time, folks used to smoke on the plane. Of yes, the NO SMOKING sign turned red when the plane took off and landed but in between, the smokers all lite up. No more smoking is allowed on the planes today.

Now, it would be easy to stop selling booze to travelers but then what about all the lost revenue? There is a lot of money that the government makes on selling booze. The same thing with gambling. It's always all about the money unless the public learns to yell blue murder! So far, only the occasional squeak or two!
 

You know once upon a time, folks used to smoke on the plane. Of yes, the NO SMOKING sign turned red when the plane took off and landed but in between, the smokers all lite up. No more smoking is allowed on the planes today.

Now, it would be easy to stop selling booze to travelers but then what about all the lost revenue? There is a lot of money that the government makes on selling booze. The same thing with gambling. It's always all about the money unless the public learns to yell blue murder! So far, only the occasional squeak or two!
absolutely correct the taxes on alcohol and smoking!
The government IMO hilariously WASTE money for ads saying things like "Quit smoking or Drink responsibly" ........ BUT ..... if it even came to fruition that people stopped the government could not survive without all the "sin " taxes.
 
absolutely correct the taxes on alcohol and smoking!
The government IMO hilariously WASTE money for ads saying things like "Quit smoking or Drink responsibly" ........ BUT ..... if it even came to fruition that people stopped the government could not survive without all the "sin " taxes.
That is a fact. The government encourages all the drinking and all the gambling. I believe it's called "Revenue" and the government could never exist without a lot of revenue. Sin tax is the reality of this whole sorry affair!
 

absolutely correct the taxes on alcohol and smoking!
The government IMO hilariously WASTE money for ads saying things like "Quit smoking or Drink responsibly" ........ BUT ..... if it even came to fruition that people stopped the government could not survive without all the "sin " taxes.
..well they're surviving here.. the Govt increased the cost of cigarettes to beyond the reach of most people, now barely anyone smokes compared to 20 years ago.. there was a huge campaign of horror adverts on cigarette packets, and the massive increase in prices.. approx £14 per pack for cigarettes here for just one pack..not a carton, just one pack of 20 cigarettes.. ..so they could do the same with alcohol..in fact there was a huge debate on the radio today, because there's a campaign to slash every bottle of Alcohol with dire warnings of Cancer...

Jeez...
 
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Luckily I haven’t experienced any crazy people on flights. In the past 2 years I have been to Europe twice and it was very uneventful. When I fly I definitely pack my patience and make a point to be very nice to everyone I encounter.
 
The only bad experience I've had in years of flying was on a small connector flight. The sole attendant--a young woman-- went through the spiel about no electronic devices. One of a group of three foreign men from a culture that doesn't value women put his camcorder in his lap for a few minutes, then picked it back up. She walked to him and nicely asked him to put it away several times but each time she turned her back he started using it again. The pilot came on the PA system and said we had to return to the terminal for a fax (yep, years ago) and once there, the men were escorted off the plane. After 30 minutes or so, they were allowed to return with a new attendant-- a very fit bulked-up guy named Chris that looked like a Marine and his pre-flight spiel sounded very authortative. It was a few years after 911 and he pointed out that the restrooms were at the rear of the plane and that under no circumstances was anyone to proceed in the direction of the cockpit. I don't think the man who initially caused the problems even looked up the entire flight; he was a believer in Chris! @oldman ....maybe you can answer this: I never believed Chris was a regular flight attendant. Are there marshals who pose as attendants?
 
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So, what does everyone think about the crazy behavior of brawls and erratic behavior at airports and on planes these days? What happened to courtesy and respect? I know it’s not everywhere, but still it’s on the news daily now.
Arrest, imprisonment is the way to deal.
 
..well they're surviving here.. the Govt increased the cost of cigarettes to beyond the reach of most people, now barely anyone smokes compared to 20 years ago.. there was a huge campaign of horror adverts on cigarette packets, and the massive increase in prices.. approx £14 per pack for cigarettes here for just one pack..not a carton, just one pack of 20 cigarettes.. ..so they could do the same with alcohol..in fact there was a huge debate on the radio today, because there's a campaign to slasher every bottle of Alcohol with dire warnings of Cancer...

Jeez...
Good news about the price increase in cigarettes. Smart move by your government. Now, if only they would increase the price of a liter of gas around here to say $3 or $4/liter, maybe we would get rid of those awful polluting monster SUVs and those 4X4 trucks that I have seen idling for long periods of time. Fuel is still too cheap around here. People complain like babies but they waste it all the time.
 
Good news about the price increase in cigarettes. Smart move by your government. Now, if only they would increase the price of a liter of gas around here to say $3 or $4/liter, maybe we would get rid of those awful polluting monster SUVs and those 4X4 trucks that I have seen idling for long periods of time. Fuel is still too cheap around here. People complain like babies but they waste it all the time.
well they did increase our petrol to £2.00 per litre last year.. and it never stopped those huge 4X4 school run gas guzzlers.. one little iota. Women who chock up the roads 4 times a day taking little johnny to school and back less than a mile away... very often even less than 1/2 a mile, are the Bane of every motorists lives.. where they get the money to not only fill those things with petrol/diesel... but also the high insurance and tax.. just to drive to the shops and the school..
 
This is why I never minded flying red eye flights. Most of those passengers just want to grab a seat and sleep until they reach their destination. Planes are generally quiet after 9 p.m. Some may order a nightcap and then go to sleep.
 
The only bad experience I've had in years of flying was on a small connector flight. The sole attendant--a young woman-- went through the spiel about no electronic devices. One of a group of three foreign men from a culture that doesn't value women put his camcorder in his lap for a few minutes, then picked it back up. She walked to him and nicely asked him to put it away several times but each time she turned her back he started using it again. The pilot came on the PA system and said we had to return to the terminal for a fax (yep, years ago) and once there, the men were escorted off the plane. After 30 minutes or so, they were allowed to return with a new attendant-- a very fit bulked-up guy named Chris that looked like a Marine and his pre-flight spiel sounded very authortative. It was a few years after 911 and he pointed out that the restrooms were at the rear of the plane and that under no circumstances was anyone to proceed in the direction of the cockpit. I don't think the man who initially caused the problems even looked up the entire flight; he was a believer in Chris! @oldman ....maybe you can answer this: I never believed Chris was a regular flight attendant. Are there marshals who pose as attendants?
Most of the time, I never knew if we had an Air Marshall onboard or not. If one boarded the plane and identified himself to me, he could do pretty much whatever suited him. On a flight from New York to LAX, we had two Air Marshalls onboard and a Federal Marshall transporting a Federal Prisoner. Prisoners were always seated in the seat next to the window.

About half-way across country, the prisoner says he has to use the lavatory. TheFederal Prisoner is handcuffed to the Federal Marshall. One of the Federal Marshalls decides he’s going to help the Federal Marshall. He draws his gun out and the passengers begin to freak out because they weren’t aware of what was goin on. I had to use the PA system to tell the passengers to relax. Those men with guns are just Federal Marshalls escorting a prisoner to and from the lavatory.
 
yes it's easy for you guys who live in lanlocked countries..or huge countries where you can go on vacation and enjoy a completely different experience than at home... whereas, when you live on an Island like we do... we pretty much have to fly everywhere if we want to experience something different to what we're used to on a day to day basis... that said.. I've had about enough of the airport experience myself too...there's too many crowds too many delays, too many long waits, too many troublemakers.. too much added extras which cost too much money, and in any other parts of life where we have a traumatic experience like that, we wouln't ever do it again..or at least we'd leave it a few years before we put ourselves through it.. but when it comes to flying it's usually a vacation or holiday... and we suffer on the outward journey, arrive frazzled and exhausted, take a couple of days to get over it only to have to do it all over again 2 weeks later on the return.. crazyness
Partially true, Holly, but when Americans on either coast want to get to the opposite coast, they very rarely drive, landlocked or not! For most of us, a few hundred miles is pretty much the maximum we are willing to drive.

My family is scattered all over the country. My kids and grandkids (all grown) are so used to flying that it's second nature to them. They just take all the delays, inconveniences, etc. in stride. I haven't flown anywhere for several years, but I don't think I'd be as patient and knowledgeable about the experience as they are. I'd arrive "frazzled and exhausted," but they look just fine.
 
I must be fortunate. I've flown alot and have never seen anyone act the fool on a flight.
I have over 6 million miles on Delta, and probably more than a million on a couple other airlines. I flew a whole lot when I was working.

I have seen a few memorable things, but nothing threatening or that would keep me from flying comfortably. I agree @Dave03 it is rare. And hopefully stays that way.
 
As I replied in another airplane thread...too much crazy stuff going on! These events solidify my resolve to never fly again, unless it's an extreme emergency involving a family member (but all close to me are currently in my state). The way the TSA has treated some people didn't help as well as the fees for everything these days. I took the 24 hour train ride from N.J. to central Florida in January 2019 and would gladly do it again. I was in coach, had plenty of leg room, a great (and fun) seat mate (going) and a relaxing trip. Returning home, I sat across from a very nice couple that I met while we were waiting on line to board. The husband was a hoot, but deep too when he started talking about his military experiences. Next time I travel by train, I may buy tickets for a roomette.
 
Easy solution, stop selling alcohol on planes or limit it to only one or 2.... and make everyone hand their passport over each time they buy a drink at the airports and no more than 2 alcoholic drinks before boarding..
I've never been able to figure out the alcohol thing at airports and on planes. Upside, a disaster happens and you are sloshed, well you may not be in such a panic. Same as they say drunks in car accidents experience lower injuries. Downside, you can't move as fast and steady as a sober person.

I only want to drink when I know I can easily be home or get to my hotel room. As one co-worker told me before I went to Las Vegas: Always be sure you are within crawling distance of your hotel room." I think I only had one drink a night however so I was good.
 


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