Crimes Against Senior Citizens: A Primer

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FastTrax

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Those crimes should be "qualified" as the crimes that are written
about to divert attention away from court ordered Abusive Guardianships.
Let me "guess"- in each of these examples, it's either a faceless, scary, stranger" or a close family member turned criminal.
Since this reply doesn't contain murder, or any of the other distasteful topics that Are allowed . . . Actually let me remind you about the guy that killed his girlfriend, there now my post should be acceptable
 
There appears to be no effective way to warn [other] Seniors, or parents of autistic children, or the disabled, that none of us can be assured of remaining "in control" of how, or where, we live out the rest of our lives.
Estate Plans are subject to the "laws" and, or "Uniform Codes" for Probate, "Uniform Codes" for Trusts, etc.
There is yet another, new way, to "bust the Trust", instead of the made up, new rule, called "Decanting" the Trust, there is now a form of Arbitration, that is not overseen (directly)by the Court, but it*is* legally binding, if you sign in agreement.
It's NJ (non judicial) something. NJSF, or something similar.
 
Keesha said:
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My first and only post, disappeared, and I assumed it was because if the subject matter, but maybe it was the CAPS.
Don't know, doesn't matter.
My mother is already locked in a Nursing home, while approx $30,000 a month is billed to, and paid by, her Estate.
3 lawyers, that we know of, a Guardian, a Conservator, paralegals, the gardeners for her properties, where she is no longer allowed to live, her children evicted, and the properties will be sold for pennies on the dollar to a friend of one if the above mentioned leeches
 
It is beyond time for our state legislatures to begin examining these abuses and passing some intelligent laws in order to prevent same. These people should be licensed after taking a course and passing a test. Free enterprise can go just so far, but this is ridiculous. NJ has terrible laws or lack there of when it comes to seniors and once a plan to stop scams is in place, the courts will continue to be overwhelmed with law suits.
 
EstatePlan=Scam! said:
My first and only post, disappeared, and I assumed it was because if the subject matter, but maybe it was the CAPS.
Don't know, doesn't matter.
My mother is already locked in a Nursing home, while approx $30,000 a month is billed to, and paid by, her Estate.
3 lawyers, that we know of, a Guardian, a Conservator, paralegals, the gardeners for her properties, where she is no longer allowed to live, her children evicted, and the properties will be sold for pennies on the dollar to a friend of one if the above mentioned leeches
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Sometimes posts just disappear, this still happens to me as well. I have no idea why. Sometimes the are saved and will pop up or you can find them. šŸ˜‚ But I donā€™t remember how to find them maybe someone else does.

It seems you are a bit upset about the situation with your mother, but I am kinda of confused. I assume she is older. This would make the children older, so three adult children were living with her when she was placed in a nursing home?

How did this come about? Why didn't any of the children get guardianship? It sounds like she is wealthy with so many lawyers and such great expense I would think they have her best interest at heart. What do you mean ā€œlocked in a nursing homeā€. You cannot be locked in a nursing home. If you are ABLE to leave you can leave.

My mother is 95 and we would like to LOCK her in a nursing home and lose the key. Her doctors would like her in a nursing home. But she refuses and since she is over 21 she continues to live by herself where she wants. Her mind is intact for the most part.

You, of course, do not need to answer any of my questions but without knowing the facts itā€™s hard to comment.
 
FastTrax said:
www.c-span.org/video/?58979-1/crimes-committed-senior-citizens

www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes/elder-fraud

https://ouc.ojp.gov/taxonomy/term/8651

www.cybersecurityventures.com/3-cyber-fraud-tactics-targeting-seniors-and-why-theyre-so-effective/

https://archive.ncpc.org/topics/crime-against-seniors.html

www.justice.gov/elderjustice/financial-exploitation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_abuse

https://ncea.acl.gov

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I love that last video with the auto services. I don't trust those places at all. Especially the dealerships. I pd over $400 for a new window switch on my van that worked for a week. I pd for the mechanic to spend 30 min rolling the window up & down. I was furious when I got my bill. Then I got into the van & even though it was off the CD player was running the battery down for God knows how long. So it cost me $1500 for all the work I had done plus I had to take it to auto zone for a new battery. That was another $200.
 
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Lewkat said:
It is beyond time for our state legislatures to begin examining these abuses and passing some intelligent laws in order to prevent same. These people should be licensed after taking a course and passing a test. Free enterprise can go just so far, but this is ridiculous. NJ has terrible laws or lack there of when it comes to seniors and once a plan to stop scams is in place, the courts will continue to be overwhelmed with law suits.
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It's refreshing to speak with someone who us aware of the situation.
If I may, the last year and a half has been a crash course in what is Truly going on below the surface, and it's not good.
Some Guardians *are* Certified by the National Guardianship Association, took a test, still Sociopaths. A test won't fix this.

I think the safest way to approach the entire situation is to first, stop looking at it through the eyes and the conscience, of a normal, decent, human being.
These people are APEX Predator's, with no empathy or remorse.
The concept of "Cognitive Dissonance" perfectly describes how impossible it is for our minds to accept that level of evil, even as we see it in action.
I'm going to try to attach a PDF that will show how entrenched lawyers and judges are in this black market.
The "people" profiting from the inhumane, trafficking of our elderly parents, and the disabled, are the Same People on the committees to write these self serving laws.
Search "Abusive Guardianship"
 

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I love that last video with the auto services. I don't trust those places at all. Especially the dealerships. I pd over $400 for a new window switch on my van that worked for a week. I pd for the mechanic to spend 30 min rolling the window up & down. I was furious when I got my bill. Then I got into the van & even though it was off the CD player was running the battery down for God knows how long. So it cost me $1500 for all the work I had done plus I had to take it to auto zone for a new battery. That was another $200.
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The music should win an award. This is the rhetoric, and smoke and mirrors, offered as concern for Crimes against the Elderly, yet, if you look at it for context, there is none.
The Pretend Protection Services don't even try to make sense anymore, they've been getting away with these parodys of real life for so long they seem to have lost any perspective.
Some actually believe that they are doing " God's Work" viewing the rest of us as a commodity, a resource to be exploited.
A lot of alumni from the same colleges, or belief systems.
That should p*ss off people who don't use their God as an excuse to sin.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Sometimes posts just disappear, this still happens to me as well. I have no idea why. Sometimes the are saved and will pop up or you can find them. šŸ˜‚ But I donā€™t remember how to find them maybe someone else does.

It seems you are a bit upset about the situation with your mother, but I am kinda of confused. I assume she is older. This would make the children older, so three adult children were living with her when she was placed in a nursing home?

How did this come about? Why didn't any of the children get guardianship? It sounds like she is wealthy with so many lawyers and such great expense I would think they have her best interest at heart. What do you mean ā€œlocked in a nursing homeā€. You cannot be locked in a nursing home. If you are ABLE to leave you can leave.

My mother is 95 and we would like to LOCK her in a nursing home and lose the key. Her doctors would like her in a nursing home. But she refuses and since she is over 21 she continues to live by herself where she wants. Her mind is intact for the most part.

You, of course, do not need to answer any of my questions but without knowing the facts itā€™s hard to comment.
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aTreeFallsinTheWoods said:
The music should win an award. This is the rhetoric, and smoke and mirrors, offered as concern for Crimes against the Elderly, yet, if you look at it for context, there is none.
The Pretend Protection Services don't even try to make sense anymore, they've been getting away with these parodys of real life for so long they seem to have lost any perspective.
Some actually believe that they are doing " God's Work" viewing the rest of us as a commodity, a resource to be exploited.
A lot of alumni from the same colleges, or belief systems.
That should p*ss off people who don't use their God as an excuse to sin.
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So what are you saying? That the video is fake? :confused:
 
Just FYI: I'm a night owl, so I haven't slept yet, so if my answers are kinda of disjointed, I apologize, and I will revisit them and repost for clarity. I appreciate your posting, and I definitely want to explain, to you, and Anyone else, that plans on getting older, *what* does happen.
I am actively seeking direct communication with people who are likely to find themselves confronted by this evil that we can't even convince ourselves is real, in hopes that, not Only will you be able to avoid Guardianship,(which is Very Difficult once you've been chosen)
But I'm hoping to raise an "army" of p*ssed off Seniors, who want to know why they paid thousands big dollars for an Estate Plan that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
My sister is still in Denial, but she wasn't being gaslighted and bad-mouthed by Adult Protective Services, because she never tried to stand up for our mother's "rights.
 
aTreeFallsinTheWoods said:
Trusts are Not Contracts, they are " agreements"
Every word is chosen for a reason, and you'd have to look them up in Blacks Law Dictionary
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Trusts do not function as advertised.
That's what I figured out a couple of days ago, because of an unrelated situation.
We were all so consumed by righteous indignation that everyone's Estate Plans were voided in court, in under two minutes, we Had to understand how we had been manipulated into playing Judas, when we Were the only "actor" in this staged proceeding without an ulterior movtive
 
aTreeFallsinTheWoods said:
Trusts do not function as advertised.
That's what I figured out a couple of days ago, because of an unrelated situation.
We were all so consumed by righteous indignation that everyone's Estate Plans were voided in court, in under two minutes, we Had to understand how we had been manipulated into playing Judas, when we Were the only "actor" in this staged proceeding without an ulterior movtive
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When I say "we" there are a few of us that communicate
 
I did go to court to get Guardianship, because that was what every source said needed to be done to be able to secure her away from my brother since APS and the police weren't concerned with his using his POA for himself and not feeding her enough.
APS filed for Emergency Guardianship and I was the only child (62 years old) that even attempted to interfere.
I got a lawyer, and the son of a , petitioned *in court" for a professional Guardian, without my consent or knowledge.

At the time I thought my lawyer was just incompetent, not criminal, and if I had objected to my own lawyer, that would resulted in mom being given to APS.
 
Pepper said:
I have no idea of what your actual story is.
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It seems to me, and I could be wrong, he is venting because mother was removed from the care of her children and the ā€œestate planā€ (who gets control of her money and property) was voided. The state came in and took control.

Mother was put in a nursing home, per court order, so she can not leave or be taken out-thus the ā€œlocked upā€. The adult children living in her home were evicted by the court. Adult protective supervision is involved and the children have no access to her money or property at this time.

Everyone is getting lawyers. Motherā€˜s care in the nursing home is costing 30,000 of HER money. That seems to be a problem and mothers property is being sold for less than he thinks it is worth by the motherā€™s, I assume, court appointed lawyers, to pay for her continued care.

The children seem to be blaming the system, and everyone in the system, who are acting for the defense and good of the mother.

This is how I read what is written. Since my mother lives in government housing, has less money than a church mouse, and has nothing to leave me. I donā€™t anticipate having any of these issues. šŸ˜‚
 
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