What do you all think of the so-called sexual and cultural revolution of the 1960s? I always thought the sexual revolution was bad for women because men came to expect sexual favors without the romance and wooing of previous generations. Women thought they were making great advances and getting the same freedom that men have but in the years following, we have seen a mass decline in dating, respect for women and morals.
Cultural revolution of the 1960s
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I agree with the outcome. But, I did enjoy the freedom that was borne from the sixties revolution. Maybe I just like freedom? The more the better and the sixties brought us so much.
So holding a door open for a woman, buying her candy and flowers and being protective towards her are all things we had to give up in the name of "freedom"? Excuse me, but I'll be
taking "wooing" any day of the week.
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But what did we give up in return for the "freedom"?
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I think that big pharma’s introduction of the birth control pill had more to do with the sexual revolution than the Hippie movement. 
The hippies did make us question and rethink many things and helped to create a more relaxed and casual attitude towards many hidebound traditions.
Sadly, every time we gain something, we lose something.
I miss some of the more formal traditions that my grandmother and mother cherished but all in all I’m content with the changes.
The hippies did make us question and rethink many things and helped to create a more relaxed and casual attitude towards many hidebound traditions.
Sadly, every time we gain something, we lose something.
I miss some of the more formal traditions that my grandmother and mother cherished but all in all I’m content with the changes.
I miss the more formal traditions of my mother and grandmother too. I was a young woman in the 1960s and although I was sexually active (but with only two men) I didn't like their attitude of assumptions and expectations. Their "well, why not, what's wrong with you?" comments about not falling into bed immediately. Free sex was a given and I was called a prude and worse in those changing years. I felt used and it colored my feelings towards sex to this very day.
Aunt Bea
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I understand what you are saying but the ultimate decision/choice rests with each of us.
Nothing can change the past, accept it and move on.
JBR
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My dad was a household autocrat with a snap temper, and my adolescence was stressful. During teen years, I gravitated to the coffeehouse scene, which felt like a door to freedom (and to expression in the arts). The hippie thing came along and expanded that a lot.
I married young and had a daughter. I soon realized some sort of moral compass and common sense were practical for me. My young wife was actually the one who went bananas, something she came to regret by age 40. We'd divorced long before that, of course. Without getting too detailed, I benefitted a lot via some of the alternative directions that arrived.
What's termed "the Sixties" was a wave that swept through Western societies. I'd have to say it had both valuable and—agreeing, Candi1—some unfortunate outcomes.
I married young and had a daughter. I soon realized some sort of moral compass and common sense were practical for me. My young wife was actually the one who went bananas, something she came to regret by age 40. We'd divorced long before that, of course. Without getting too detailed, I benefitted a lot via some of the alternative directions that arrived.
What's termed "the Sixties" was a wave that swept through Western societies. I'd have to say it had both valuable and—agreeing, Candi1—some unfortunate outcomes.
Where did I say he can't be nice? Been wooed much lately?
Maybe you were with the wrong guys for you?
Llynn
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I missed out on that revolution. My government decided for me that I was better off playing war in SE Asia.
I do recall (during an A School) being made to stay up nights marching around Wave's barracks so that the poor put upon dears could get their beauty rest.
I do recall (during an A School) being made to stay up nights marching around Wave's barracks so that the poor put upon dears could get their beauty rest.
Llynn
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Were you truly "robbing the cradle" or is there another explanation?
Another. But I'm sure most are bored with the story by now. I'll never be! Great 'when did you meet' story, huh?Were you truly "robbing the cradle" or is there another explanation?
CallMeKate
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Oh there is no way on earth I'm going to let you get away without telling THAT story, missy! Out with it!
I definitely told it once, if not twice. Obviously, Kate, you're not paying sufficient attention!Out with it!
CallMeKate
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I probably wasn't a member yet... I'd remember that one! But yeah, I can't really read every response to every thread, so I'll go do an advanced search and find it.I definitely told it once, if not twice. Obviously, Kate, you're not paying sufficient attention!
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fuzzybuddy
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I agree with Aunt Bea that "The Pill" had more to do with changing habits than the "Hippies". Also divorce laws drastically changed in this era, too- no fault divorces. It may have been nice to have the door opened for you, but a woman couldn't open a credit card account in her name, back then.
dilettante
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Guys look at what's on offer, what it will cost them, and more every day conclude that "the juice isn't worth the squeeze."
My dad was a household autocrat as well and I couldn't wait to move from home and get my own place. I relished my freedom for a while. Of course, I was too young to realize that freedom does have consequences. The last thing I wanted was to marry someone my parents approved of. Now, I wish I had not been so foolish - I could have married young and have had a family, the lack of which I do regret now.
I did marry late in life, too late to have children and am now widowed. Because I turned my nose up at my parents lifestyle, I missed out on a lot. Wish I could go back and make different decisions. I just knew back then that I didn't want to be just a housewife and mother. That was my mother's whole identity.
I did marry late in life, too late to have children and am now widowed. Because I turned my nose up at my parents lifestyle, I missed out on a lot. Wish I could go back and make different decisions. I just knew back then that I didn't want to be just a housewife and mother. That was my mother's whole identity.
Yes, out with it, Pepper. We're all waiting for how you met your husband when he was naked.Oh there is no way on earth I'm going to let you get away without telling THAT story, missy! Out with it!
Well, yes, duh, obviously I was
Well, yes, I was wooed recenty but I have absolutely no further interest in dating or getting romantically involved again. Been there, done that.
How did we go from "the pill" and other means of contraception to abortion on demand? Was that a step forward or a step backward? When I was of childbearing age, I probably would have welcomed legalized abortion but my choice of contraceptives worked fine albeit not without a degree of worry each month.
Exactly. My mother had an old saying: "men aren't going to buy the cow as long as they get free milk". Mom was very old-fashioned and I didn't listen to her but experience has taught me that she was right.
dilettante
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I think you mistook my meaning. Guys are just doing without or even substituting porn. Most have never enjoyed "free milk." 90% of women go after the same 10% of guys, then blame all of us for their poor choices in life.
Women have priced themselves out of the market, offering too little value for too high a cost. Add postmenopausal realities on top of that... tell me again what's in it for him?
It's not about blame, there just isn't any value proposition there.